The discussion at the Islam and Christianity Debate Group continues unabated. Here are the next points (22—30) of the original list of 38 which I have addressed so far. This is again a very long post, but I have carefully explained much Bible doctrine here. It would be well worth your study. There are many valuable things taught in the Bible which Christians ought to know that are not taught in Sunday school, and not usually taught from the Pulpit. It is very important that you become grounded in your faith, and prepared to give an answer to any who might have a question about it (1 Peter 3:15).
21- Jesus referred to himself as a Student: Matthew 10:24
Mat 10:24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord. (KJV)
Mat 10:24 “A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. (ESV)
Mat 10:24 Disciples are not better than their teacher, and slaves are not better than their master. (CEV)
Mat 10:24 No pupil is better than his teacher, and no slave is better than his master.
I think it may be that whoever might originally have devised these 38 Reasons from the Bible why Jesus cannot be God or Lord may have been mistaken in selecting this topic and the associated verse as one of the reasons. Jesus Christ is not here called or referred to as a student. But even if He were, that would be no objection because when Jesus became a man and dwelt in human flesh, as a human being subject to the limitations characterized by being actually human, he did indeed have to learn just like we do.
Luk 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
A fact about our Lord Jesus Christ which is not understood or believed by Muslims is that by the Rule of Interpretation I have called “necessary inference,” we learn from the Bible that Jesus was one Person but He possessed two natures: (1) a human nature, and (2) a divine nature.
Do we find this stated in these exact words anywhere in the Bible? Of course not. This truth is gathered by comparing Scripture with Scripture, and by the rule of “necessary inference,” we arrive at this explanation and understanding of the Person of our Lord Jesus Christ as the best explanation for the set of facts found in the Bible.
Ayigbe Eseme Jerome Smith…Thank you Sir for the effort taken so far to answer my posted questions. The explanations given by do you are enough to prove Jesus is not God but you believe otherwise. Thank you once again. Quoting scripture and comparing scripture to arrive at answer is an academic work. Otherwise you know very well and believed that Jesus is not God and cannot be God.
Jerome Smith I am sure, Ayigbe Eseme, that anyone who will read my 21 answers to your challenges would have to agree that none of those challenges provides any argument against the fact that the Bible, properly understood, reveals that Jesus Christ is both God and man. Thank you for reading my answers so far.
22- Father is Greater than Jesus (John 14:28). How can someone be greater than God?
John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
greater than. The Lord was not inferior as to His essential being (see Joh 14:9; Joh 14:11; Joh 10:30), but as to His office, as sent by the Father (see 1Co 15:27, Php 2:9-11) [CB]. *Joh 14:12, **Joh 5:19; +*Joh 6:38 note. Gen 41:40 with Gen 44:18, Mat 24:36, +**Mar 13:32, *1Co 11:3; +**1Co 15:28. T963x: *Joh 5:19; Joh 8:42; Joh 13:16, Luk 22:41-42, **+1Co 15:28 (T964x). Php 2:9, Heb 2:7.
Jesus Christ spoke these words before His death and resurrection from the dead while he was here as a man in His humanity, His human form. As a man, Jesus properly spoke of God as “My Father.” While a man, Jesus Christ could properly speak of His Father as “greater than I.”
The same “I” reflecting the Person of Jesus Christ (as used in the Greek text) is also found at John 8:58,
Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Before Abraham was. +*Joh 8:35, **+Joh 1:1; **+Joh 1:2; **+Joh 1:15; Joh 3:13; Joh 6:62; *Joh 17:5; *Joh 17:24, Psa 68:4; Psa 90:1-2, *Pro 8:22-30, +*Isa 9:6; *Isa 43:13, +*Mic 5:2, *Col 1:17, Heb 1:10-12; +*Heb 13:8, 1Pe 1:20, 1Jn 1:1, +*Rev 1:8; +*Rev 1:11; +*Rev 1:17; +*Rev 1:18; Rev 2:8. Note: That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the preter, from its being in answer to the Jews, who inquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him. The ancient Jews not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels (see Yalkut Simeoni on Isa 52:13, Bereshith Rabba on Gen 28:10, Zohar, Gen. fol. 88), but that his celestial nature existed with God, from whom it emanated, before the creation (Netzach Israel, c. 35, fol. 38), and that the creation was effected by his ministry (Zohar, l. fol. 128, on Gen 49:11). Joh 8:53, *Exo 3:14, *Isa 43:13; *Isa 43:15; Isa 44:6; Isa 44:8; Isa 46:9; Isa 48:12, +*Rev 1:8.
I am. +*Joh 8:24 note, +*Joh 8:28, Joh 4:26; Joh 5:18; Joh 10:30; Joh 13:19; Joh 18:5-6, Exo 3:13-14; Exo 6:3, Psa 102:27, Isa 42:8, Zec 13:7, Mat 18:20; Mat 22:45, Php 2:6, 1Ti 6:16, Heb 1:12.
Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
I am. Gr. ego eimi. Used in the absolute sense (as in the LXX. of Isa 43:10, where it is used of Jehovah), Jesus claiming absolute divine being, as at Joh 8:58 (A. T. Robertson, Word Pictures, vol. 5, p. 146). +*Joh 8:28, Joh 4:26; Joh 6:35; +Joh 11:27; Joh 13:19; Joh 18:5, Deut 32:39, LXX. Isa 43:10; Isa 43:12-13; Isa 46:4, LXX. Mar 13:6, Luk 21:8.
But the Arians and their modern counterpart, the Jehovah Witnesses, as well as Moslems fail to acknowledge what the Bible plainly reveals, that Jesus Christ is one Person that has two natures: a true human nature so that he could be tempted or better expressed, tested, in all points, with the exception of sin (Hebrews 4:15), and a divine nature because He is an eternal Person (Micah 5:2) who in time became a man, in accordance with Messianic Prophecy given at Isaiah 9:6, where a child is born (thus Jesus was born as a child in Bethlehem) and a son is given (thus Jesus was always the Son of God, who was given us graciously by God for our salvation, as stated in John 3:16).
Jesus Christ clearly asserted His Pre-existence and Glory which He held with the Father:
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
The error in this challenge to the doctrine of the Divinity of Christ is mistaking that Jesus as man is greater than God. This is not what the doctrine of the deity of Christ involves.
Rob Lopez As always the Muslims refuse to accept the truth. Jerome Smith It is my goal that at least anyone who reads here will see the truth of the Bible when understood in context compared to the wrong interpretations proposed by those who have not properly studied it. The best way to confront a bad idea is to be exposed to a better idea.
23- Jesus was taught by the Father (John 8:28)
Joh 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
The expression “lifted up the Son of man” refers to the crucifixion, when Jesus Christ was lifted up on the cross and was thus put to death.
They would, upon this event, know that He is Deity, because of the accompanying supernatural events (darkness at noonday) that accompanied the crucifixion and three days later His resurrection (great earthquake, Matthew 28:2).
Mat 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
That Jesus was “taught by the Father” poses no problem, for while Jesus was present in His human nature He learned from God the Father and fulfilled the Father’s will completely. If Jesus was “taught by the Father,” then surely what Jesus taught is of Divine Authority, and ought to be believed.
24- Jesus can do nothing by himself (John 5:19, John 5:30)
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Joh 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
The Jews understood that when Jesus said God was His Father, Jesus declared Himself equal with God. Moslems and Jehovah Witnesses do not accept this claim by Jesus, demonstrating they do not believe in Him.
do nothing. So complete is the identity and union that they cannot be separated in anything, as shewn in the words following and to the end of Joh 5:23. So Joh 5:30, Joh 8:28-29; Joh 9:4; Joh 14:10-11 (De Burgh, pp. 240, 241).
This was predicted in Messianic Prophecy as seen in Psalm 40:7, 8,
Psa 40:7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
Psa 40:8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
That Jesus always is obedient to the Father poses no problem to His being equal to God and to His being God the Son in His Divine Nature.
Notice that at one point Jesus remarked that He could call a large number of angels to prevent the authorities from taking Him, but Jesus told His disciples, but if I did that, how would the Scriptures be fulfilled?
Mat 26:53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Mat 26:54 But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
25- Jesus does not even have his own doctrine (John 7:16)
Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
not mine.—(i.e. “not of human origin, nor the invention or discovery of a mere man, as you take me to be;” as with the leaders of sects of religion and philosophy in general) [De Burgh, p. 249]. +Joh 3:34; Joh 16:13.
Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
will. or, may will (Young). Rather, If any man wishes to do—i.e. unbelief is the fault of the heart, not of the understanding (De Burgh, p. 249). Joh 5:40; Joh 8:43-44, +Deut 5:21, **+1Ch 16:11 note. +*Psa 5:2, Isa 1:10, Hos 6:1-3, Mat 6:22; Mat 13:12; Mat 21:23-27; Mat 23:37, +*Luk 8:15, **Act 8:27-29; **Act 10:1-6, Rom 7:18, 1Co 9:17, **2Th 2:10, Phm 1:14, 1Pe 5:2.
And so it is for any readers here. Moslems sometimes seem to know more about parts of the Bible than many Christians know. Shame on the Christians! But the Moslems must take great care that they are not in unbelief, or if they are, that they not allow themselves to remain so. Unbelief is the fault of the heart, not of the understanding. I have presented much Scripture and much explanation from which any reader can learn enough to come to a true understanding of who Jesus Christ really is, and what His claims are, and what our proper response to Him should be.
26- Jesus ascended to his God (John 20:17)
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Remember, once again, that Jesus Christ is both truly man and truly God. He, since the incarnation, since His birth in Bethlehem to the virgin Mary, is of course truly man. But there is overwhelming evidence in the Bible that before Jesus became a man, He was in the form of God.
I have already shown you in the Scriptures that at Genesis 19:24, we have two Jehovahs on the same scene at the same time: one in heaven who sends destruction to Sodom, and one on earth who had been seen as one of three men who visited Abraham. Of those three men, the narrative identifies two of them as angels, and one of them as the Angel of Jehovah, also referred to as God and as Jehovah.
We know from the words of our Lord Jesus Christ that he plainly declared that He had seen Abraham (John 8:56-58 and preceding context) and Isaiah (John 12:41). And this explains why, when the Bible says no man hath seen God at any time, that it is Jesus Christ who has declared and revealed Him, that we properly understand that appearances of God to men were made by the pre-incarnate Christ in events which are called Christophanies. The Biblical evidence is conclusive, and I have shared it here before.
It is true that Jesus ascended to His God. But who else in world history has done that? Surely Jesus Christ is a Person far above any former or subsequent prophet in that regard. When Jesus became a man He did not shed the divine nature which He always possessed. The problem for some interpreters stems from the failure to understand that Jesus possessed two natures at the same time: His human nature, and His divine nature. Understand this from Scripture, and many of these supposed objections fall away and disappear.
27- According to Christians, Jesus died as recorded in Matthew 27:27-56 but Bible says that God is infinite Psalm 102:27.
Such an objection cannot be sustained in the light of the evidence given in the Bible.
It is most certain that Jesus Christ died on the cross by means of crucifixion. This is the clear testimony of history recorded in the New Testament, and even alluded to in non-biblical sources of the time and shortly thereafter. I have shared quite fully above the Biblical evidence which proves Jesus died on the cross of Calvary.
There is no way to account for the rise and spread of Christianity unless we accept the historical record upon which it is founded. There is no way to account for the conversion of the Apostle Paul on the Damascus Road if Paul (then called by Saul, his Hebrew name) did not meet Jesus Christ supernaturally on that road.
That God is infinite is no argument that Jesus did not die.
The very verse that has been cited from Psalm 102:27 more literally reads from the Hebrew, “Thou art He.” It is a prophetic reference to our Lord Jesus Christ. It is alluded to in Hebrews 13:8.
Once again, to use this as an argument to show that Jesus is not God is to read into the Bible the very opposite of what it declares.
And also once again, the failure to admit the doctrine of the hypostatic union, namely, the union of two natures in One Person, the human nature and the divine nature in Jesus Christ, is the source of such confusion and denial.
Ayigbe Eseme There are biblical evidences from the bible that Jesus died and there are biblical evidences from the bible that Jesus did not die. It is up to the Christians to defend their beliefs. Because Paul wrote in the book of Corinthians that if Jesus did not die then their faith is useless. Because the belief of Christians is hanged on the crucifixion of Jesus.
28- Jesus needed to Pray, Eat, Drink and Was Helped by Woman, as stated in Luke 8:1-3 but God in Bible is self-sufficient Psalm 50:12
Once again, the Muslim objection to the deity of Christ is based on the evidence that He was truly a man. Muslims and Jehovah Witnesses are both guilty of denying the truth revealed in the Bible that Jesus Christ possessed two natures at the same time: a human nature and a divine nature. Once this concept is grasped, the difficulty Muslims and others who deny the deity of Christ propose is found to have no force or merit.
Luk 8:1 And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him,
Luk 8:2 And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils,
Luk 8:3 And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto him of their substance.
There is interesting evidence in the New Testament record that Jesus Christ was very poor.
Luk 9:58 And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
2Co 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
Therefore, the fact that God used the resources of individuals who helped Jesus Christ financially shows God’s grace working in the lives affected by the ministry of Jesus Christ to them.
Psa 50:12 If I were hungry, I would not tell thee: for the world is mine, and the fulness thereof.
God the Father in heaven is spirit (John 4:24), and never gets hungry, and does not stand in need of anything from man, or anything man can provide. In context, God is reproving the Israelites for trusting in religious forms and ceremonies. They forgot to remember what these forms and ceremonies symbolized. Those ceremonies would one day no longer be required of them, once the Messiah, to whom they all pointed in type, would come.
But look at the preceding context in Psalm 50 at Psalm 50:6,
Psa 50:6 And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah.
God is judge himself. A few cross references related to this statement are relevant here.
Psa 67:4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.
Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
Joh 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
Joh 5:23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Joh 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Joh 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
Joh 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
Act 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
Act 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Note that the term “judge” is used in a broader sense in Scripture than in our common parlance; it is often equivalent to ruler or king (see Peters, Theocratic Kingdom, vol. 2, pp. 352-361). This has an important bearing upon our conception of Christ returning to judge the earth at the Second Advent. The judgeship of Christ is not limited to passing sentence, but constitutes his reign as king over the earth.
2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
Isa 24:23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Rev 11:16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
Rev 11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
Carefully studied, with an effort to learn rather than refute, the passages I have cited above prove the deity of the Messiah, the Lord Jesus Christ. In order for the Lord Jesus Christ to judge righteously, He must be omniscient. That is an attribute that belongs to God alone and cannot be given or delegated to someone else. That is why omniscience is called an incommunicable attribute. That Jesus Christ possesses this attribute proves His Deity.
Revelation 11:17 refers to the “Lord God Almighty,” the name given to the Messiah in Bible prophecy in Amos 4:13 in the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible quoted by John in the book of Revelation, Revelation 1:8 and 4:8. Revelation 11:17 addresses the Messiah as “O Lord God Almighty,” for it is He of whom it can be said, “which art, and wast, and art to come,” and in Bible prophecy it is clearly revealed that it is the Messiah Who will reign forever over the entire earth, as seen in the passages I have given above.
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29- The God remain the same in nature (Hebrews 1:12)
Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
It is true that the nature of God does not and cannot change. If God were to change in His nature, would He be changing for the better? If so, then that would mean that God was not perfect before but could be improved upon. But that is a contradiction in terms, and so cannot be the case.
If God were to change His nature, would He be changing for the worse? If so, then that would mean that He would change from His state of being perfect to a state of not being perfect. That too, is a contradiction in terms.
Does God have a Son? The Bible, in the Old Testament and the New Testament, affirms that God has a Son. He has always had a Son. This is why the Bible affirms the eternal sonship of Jesus Christ.
It is always helpful and informative to look at the context of the verse we are considering.
Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
God, the Bible here tells us, has spoken with finality by His Son. His Son is appointed as the heir of all things. By His Son He made the worlds.
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Heb 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
God’s Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, is the perfect image of the person of God. He reflects Him perfectly.
He purged our sins by His one act of Atonement. Having completed His task perfectly, as sent by the Father, He returned to heaven and sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high.
Heb 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
This verse includes two quotations from the Old Testament, two Messianic Prophecies. The first Old Testament quotation demonstrates that God has always had a Son. The fact that Jesus Christ is truly affirmed to be that Son is proven by His resurrection from the dead. The second quotation connects these Messianic Prophecies to the provisions of the Davidic Covenant mentioned in the context of 2 Samuel 7:14.
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Is Jesus Christ to be worshipped? The Biblical evidence as quoted here from the Greek Septuagint (LXX) translation of the Hebrew Bible from Deuteronomy 32:43, which reads “Rejoice, ye heavens, together with Him, and let all the angels of God worship Him. Rejoice, ye nations, with His people,” shows He is indeed to be worshipped.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Here, we have the fact that God Himself speaks to His Son, addressing Him as God, in affirmation that His Son is to have a throne, and the rule or authority of righteousness (sceptre) over His kingdom, which we elsewhere learn in the Bible will last forever.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
God anointed Jesus Christ as the Son of God to a position above all others. The Son of God is the creator of the universe, and of the earth.
Since Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is the creator, He must be Deity, for only God can create in the absolute sense.
Heb 1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.
There is a repeated instance of a figure of speech here called “the balanced sentence,” marked by the word “but.” By this figure, what comes before the word “but” is a statement contrary to fact, used in a contrast of great emphasis to stress the importance of the statement which follows.
Here, “They shall perish” is a statement directly contrary to what God has proclaimed several times in the Old Testament, that the earth will not perish but abides forever, as in Ecclesiastes 1:4 and Psalm 104:5 and Psalm 148:6.
This is to add great emphasis to the following clause, “but thou remainest,” strongly affirming that the Son of God is eternal.
So also in Hebrews 1:12, the first part that comes before the word “but” says “And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed” in reference to the destiny of the earth and the heavens, a statement which is contrary to fact, given to emphasize the following statement that the Son of God remains the same, and His years shall not fail.
These statements quoted in Hebrews 1:11 and Hebrews 1:12 are taken from Psalm 102:25 and Psalm 102:26,
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.
Psa 102:26 They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
Psa 102:27 But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.
On the expression, “they shall perish,” Psalm 102:26, I have written the following explanatory note in my new Bible study reference work, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:
They shall perish. This affirmation, frequently echoed elsewhere in Scripture (see the Parallel Passages), as it is generally understood actually means exactly the opposite of what on the surface it appears to say, as the cross references given at Psa 108:4 and Ecc 1:4 absolutely prove. Psa 108:4 unequivocally states “For thy mercy is great above the heavens.” Thus God’s mercy is more sure than the heavens, and Scripture declares that the earth will abide forever and not pass away, as required by both the Abrahamic Covenant (+**Gen 12:2 note) and Davidic Covenant (+**2Sa 7:10 note) provisions. “Mercy” certainly is a reference to the “sure mercies of David” (+**Isa 55:3), which by God are guaranteed by the eternal stability of the universe itself (Jer 31:35, 36, 37). To suggest otherwise is to deny the Covenant and the Sign by which God affirms its guarantee of fulfillment. %**Psa 102:28, %+*Psa 89:37; %+**Psa 108:4; %Psa 148:6, Job 14:12; Job 14:18, %+**Ecc 1:4, *Isa 34:4; *Isa 51:6; *Isa 65:17; Isa 66:22, Mat 5:18; +**Mat 24:35 note. **Luk 21:33, *Rom 8:20, **2Pe 3:7-13 note. +*1Jn 2:17, Rev 6:14; Rev 20:11; Rev 21:1.
Heb 1:13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
Therefore, by many proofs from Scripture, Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is proven to be and have been the eternal Son of God, granted by God the highest position in the universe, a position not granted to any of the angels, but only to the Son of God, a seat at God’s right hand, in a passage cited from Psalm 101:1, an Old Testament chapter cited more often in the New Testament than any other Bible chapter as Messianic Prophecy.
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Ayigbe Eseme Sir Jerome Smith. … your effort is great but it is still the same arguments. A holy book cannot be subjected to much academic work like you did. A is A. Logics and reasoning are necessary but not in this case Sir.
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Jerome Smith To the contrary, Ayigbe Eseme, God expects us to read His Book, the Bible, with great care. He expects us to follow the rules of interpretation. You may have noticed that Jesus Christ in the New Testament asked the Jewish experts who presumably knew the Bible well the question, “Have ye not read?”
Mat 12:3 But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him;
Mat 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
Mat 19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
Mat 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
Mar 12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
Mar 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Luk 6:3 And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him;
Jesus challenged the Jewish leadership of His day with a command to “Search the Scriptures,” because if they read the Scriptures carefully they would find that the Scriptures bore witness to Jesus Christ, the Messiah of Israel,
Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Joh 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
Jesus roundly condemned the Sadducees because they did not know the Bible well enough and so were in great error about what it teaches,
Mar 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mar 12:26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Mar 12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
Therefore, a Holy Book must be read and studied very carefully, and when addressing sophisticated questions like you have kindly raised for discussion, we must study it with great accuracy, even academic level accuracy, to come to valid conclusions about what the Bible says and means.
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Rob Lopez Amen, the Scriptures are powerful and the word of God!
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Missy Mercy The Bible tells of the greatest love story.
Because GOD loves each one of us. He made a way for anyone to have a personal relationship with Him. God provides an open door you just have to walk through into salvation.
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Rob Lopez amen Missy!
Ayigbe Eseme The only creator is God Almighty and not Jesus. No matter the cross reference you do it shows the bible contradicts itself. Qul huwa alahu ahadu…Say God is one God. Not three or trinity. The pagan worship GOD in three forms. ..the father, the mother and the child. But Christians modified this belief to: God the father, holy spirit and son. If there were more than one God there would have been disorder in creation. Thank you.
Jerome Smith And just where are you getting “mother” out of anything I have been explaining from the Bible? You have a mixed up and untrue understanding of what the Bible teaches and true Christians believe. There is no connection between so-called pagan trinities and what the Bible teaches about God.
Ayigbe Eseme Sir that is your belief. The pagans before the introduction of trinity by Christians worshipped a supreme being by representatives of : father, mother and child. It is just as Christians change the day of worshipping idols to Christmas and new year. January was named after Janus , the God that see back and front. They set January 1 as day of worshipping the idol. Now converted to Christians new year celebration.
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Anighoro Issa Emmanuel Even beside that jesus have never claim to be God and he never mention the holy spirit to be third God…I dont know where they are bring this ideology from
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Jerome Smith Anighoro Issa Emmanuel, thank you for joining in on this discussion! Jesus did not need to claim to be God because He demonstrated conclusively that He was more than just a man by what He did and knew. Only God is omniscient, but all through the New Testament record of the life of Jesus Christ we see repeated evidence that he possessed the attribute or quality of omniscience, that He was all-knowing. I give evidence from the Bible about this at my answer to #30 below. I have also discussed the omniscience of Christ above, I’m sure.
Omniscience is what is called an incommunicable attribute of God. This means that even God cannot share this attribute with anyone else. Omniscience is an attribute possessed by Jesus Christ (see John 21:17, where Peter said to Jesus Christ, “Lord, thou knowest all things.” I have supplied many cross references at John 21:17 to other places that show instances or examples of the omniscience of Jesus Christ:
Lord, thou knowest all things. Gr. oida, Joh 8:55 note. God the Son is omniscient. +*Joh 2:24; *+Joh 2:25; Joh 4:16; Joh 5:6; Joh 5:42; Joh 6:61; Joh 6:64; Joh 11:14 note. Joh 13:1; Joh 13:18-19; Joh 16:19; +Joh 16:30; Joh 18:4, +*Gen 18:19, +*Jer 17:10, +Mat 9:4 note (T76-7). +*Mat 11:21 note. Mat 12:25; **Mat 17:24-27; +*Mat 28:19 note. Mar 2:8; Mar 8:17; Mar 9:33; Mar 12:15; Mar 14:13-15, Luk 5:22; Luk 6:8; Luk 9:47; Luk 22:10-12, Act 1:24; Act 15:8, 1Co 4:3-4, **1Jn 3:20, +*Rev 2:23.
I think one of the most interesting and striking instances of Jesus Christ demonstrating omniscience, that He knows everything, is found in Matthew 17:24-27,
Mat 17:24 And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
Mat 17:25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
Mat 17:26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
Mat 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
Notice that when Peter returned to the house where Jesus was, that Jesus anticipated the situation Peter was about to tell Him about regarding the need to pay the Temple Tax. Jesus knew what had taken place before Peter had any chance to tell Him about it.
That is an example of the omniscience of Jesus Christ.
To solve the tax problem, since Jesus was poor and without money of His own, he instructed Peter where to go fishing. He told Peter to take up the first fish that would bite his fishing hook, open the fish’s mouth, where he would find a piece of money which He instructed Peter to use to go pay the Temple Tax for both himself and Jesus.
This is a most remarkable demonstration of the omniscience of Jesus Christ.
How did Jesus know that the fish had swallowed a coin?
How did Jesus know that the coin the fish happened to swallow was a coin sufficient in value to pay the tax for both Peter and Himself?
How did Jesus know that exactly at the time Peter let down his fish hook into the water, that it would be that fish that would bite the hook?
Surely this is a remarkable example of the omniscience of Jesus Christ. But only God can be omniscient and know all things. For any thinking person, the conclusion is obvious that the evidence proves Jesus was omniscient, and therefore Jesus in His Divine Nature was God.
I think this incident is also interesting because it is recorded in the Gospel of Matthew, and Matthew by profession was a tax collector!
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Ayigbe Eseme Again Sir, Jesus cannot quote the bible. Because from your analysis or academic research you mentioned scriptures and not bible. And as at Jesus time the scriptures were to be complete as 66 books as believed by protestant Christians. Otherwise the scriptures are more than 66 books. A holy book must be read and studied carefully. I agreed. But the bible quotations back and front is in error. The scriptures bore witnesses to Jesus Christ as messiah of Israel. Which of the scriptures and definitely not the bible that contradicts itself. You quoted” God spoke to Moses saying I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. True. But is this God now Jesus? Whereas the three fathers were forefathers of Jesus. So God had forefathers? Food for thought.
Jerome Smith That is indeed great food for thought, Ayigbe Eseme. I use the terms “Scriptures” and “Bible” interchangeably to refer to the 39 Hebrew Scriptures and the 27 Greek Christian Scriptures, comprising the Old Testament and the New Testament, respectively.
I do not understand your statement: “But the Bible quotations back and front is in error.” Perhaps you can reword this and clarify for me what you mean.
At Exodus 3:2 we read “And the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a flame of fire out of he midst of a bush.” At Exodus 3:4 we read “And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses.” In Exodus 3:6 we read, “Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father [this should read “fathers,” as in early versions (the Samaritan and Coptic) and as cited by Stephen in Acts 7:32], the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was afraid to look upon God.” Surely these statements in the same context that refer to (1) the angel of the Lord,” (2) the LORD, and (3) God, all have reference to the same Person.
I have before clearly proven from Scripture that since God is spirit, He is invisible and has never been seen (John 4:23; John 1:18).
Therefore, the logical conclusion from this evidence is that when in the Old Testament it is reported that God has been seen, the Person Who was seen was the Angel of Jehovah. I have also proven from John 12:41 in reference to Isaiah 6:1 and John 8:56-58 in reference to Abraham, where Jesus claimed that “before Abraham was, I am,” and further, that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, that these statements by Jesus indicate that He before His Incarnation existed eternally as God the Son, visible to men as the Angel of Jehovah.
This certainly is direct proof from the Bible that Jesus is Jehovah, the Angel of Jehovah, the Son of God, and most certainly truly divine. In the Incarnation Jesus took on the form or nature of a man, but always existed in the form of God, and therefore since the Incarnation Jesus possesses two natures: human and divine. These things are most obvious from a careful comparison of Scripture like that I have just given you in this comment.
So yes, this God seen by Moses in the burning bush is now Jesus. It is Moses who had forefathers in the Exodus account, not in this sense a reference to any forefathers of Jesus.
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Ayigbe Eseme Thank you. QED.
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Ayigbe Eseme It is funny to read that Jesus is Jehovah. It funny to read that the God that called Moses is Jesus. Your analysis is funny Sir
What I mean: “quoting back and front “. Your quotes are neither here nor there. You quote old testament and refer to new testament. Again from new testament to old testament to justify your views. In course of that you omitted key point of oneness of God as explain in some verses of the bible. You once wrote that Islam came about 600 years after Christianity and so cannot change history or the information. But be informed that all prophets including Jesus came from God with one message. “Worship God and do good and abhor evil. ” The Qur’an says that chains of prophets convey messages of one God. –
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Jerome Smith Ayigbe Eseme, perhaps you have never before encountered an English teacher who is able to share with you what the Bible teaches. My method of explaining Scripture with Scripture is well-validated in the field of secular great literature. There is an important set of volumes called Great Books of the Western World. It is a collection of more than 50 volumes of world literature which are regarded by experts in literature to be the greatest works ever written. Volume 2 and 3 of this set (as it was first issued: volume 1 was titled The Great Ideas) is called The Synopticon, and reportedly cost Britannica some 2 million dollars to create, if I remember the details correctly. These two volumes are a topical index to the great subjects of concern that are discussed by many different authors across many centuries. What Britannica did for the Great Books of the Western World by indexing these works under many different subjects, I have done for the Bible by means of cross references, as you have seen me use many times here.
My analysis of the Bible may seem in a sense funny to you, because you have not encountered it before on this sophisticated of a level of study. But we do well to study the Bible with the same effort and degree of scholarship that the literature scholars who compiled The Synopticon have for world literature. They included the Bible as part of their topical index for all the subjects they indexed. I have not used their research because mine is better for Bible study than their resource is, because my resource covers the Bible verse by verse for every important word, phrase, clause, theme, and often important points of grammar as well as culture.
You said above:
“What I mean: “quoting back and front “. Your quotes are neither here nor there. You quote old testament and refer to new testament. Again from new testament to old testament to justify your views.”
How else do you expect me to explain the Bible?
You also said above:
“Again from new testament to old testament to justify your views. In course of that you omitted key point of oneness of God as explain in some verses of the bible.”
You mistakenly believe that I do not teach the Oneness of God. Here is a bit of evidence from my book at my note given at Deuteronomy 4:35,
Deu 4:35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.
the Lord he is God. [“Oneness believers,” who deny the doctrine of the Trinity, cite the following “Oneness Scriptures” Chain Reference containing examples of God being only ONE to assert God is only one in both the Old and New Testament. This mistaken position is answered at Mat 28:19 note (consult Gen 19:24 note; Deut 6:4 note; Luk 3:22 note; Act 2:38 note; Php 2:6 note; 1Pe 2:3 note; Rev 1:8 note): Deut 6:4; Deut 32:39, 2Sa 7:22, 1Ch 17:20, Psa 83:18; Psa 86:10, Isa 9:6; Isa 37:16; Isa 41:4; Isa 2:8; Isa 43:10-15; *Isa 44:6; Isa 45:5-6; Isa 45:18-22; Isa 46:5-9; Isa 48:11-12; Isa 57:15, Mic 5:2, Zec 14:9, *Mal 2:10, Mat 1:23, *Mar 12:29, Joh 1:1-14; **Joh 8:56-59; Joh 12:44-46; Joh 14:6-7; Joh 17:11; Joh 17:21; **Joh 20:28, Act 2:36; Act 4:10-12; Act 10:34-36, *1Co 8:4-6, 2Co 5:18-19, Eph 3:9; Eph 4:4-6, **Php 2:6-11, **Col 1:15-19; *Col 2:9; *Col 2:10, 1Ti 2:5; 1Ti 3:16, **Tit 2:13; **Tit 2:14, **Heb 1:1-14, **Jas 2:19, 1Jn 3:16; 1Jn 5:7, Rev 1:7-8; Rev 4:2; Rev 13:8; Rev 20:11-12; Rev 22:13,] Deut 4:39, +*Deut 6:4 note. 2Sa 7:22, 1Ki 8:60; 1Ki 18:21, 1Ch 17:20, Jer 27:5.
This should serve to let you know that when there is more than one side to an argument, or there are differing views about a Bible subject, I try to fairly give the best evidence each side has to offer in support of its view.
Thank you for taking time to answer my question about what you meant. You are always very helpful.
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Missy Mercy Ayigbe are you an Imam??
I get the impression that you are.
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Adil Dean No he is just stubborn like every Muslim is. No matter how much u provide them the references they will oppose Jesus like the high priests of Jews did.
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Ayigbe Eseme Missy Mercy and Adil Dean…. truth stands clear from error. Your quotes or Mr. Jerome Smith quotes to support the divinity of Jesus are in the bible. My quotes against the divinity of Jesus are in the bible. So your bible contradicts itself. There is no issues of stubbornness. To you is your belief and to me is my belief. I will not worship your trinity God head and you may choose not to worship the only one true God. The CREATOR of everything including Jesus. Thank you.
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Jerome Smith Ayigbe Eseme, you very well know that your quotes “against the divinity of Jesus” that you claim to be “in the Bible” are always out of context, and I have explained every one of them in the light of the surrounding context and related passages of Scripture. Our Bible does not contradict itself. You and those who share your beliefs are guilty of misquoting and misinterpreting the Bible. I have directed you to 24 established Rules of Interpretation. When you violate those, of course you cannot come up with a correct interpretation of the Bible or any other work of literature.
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Ayigbe Eseme Respected Jerome Smith. ..I have no issue with you but those who could write not a single reason for their belief and yet insult others. Sir, the 24 rules of interpretation was established by who and when? Were the rules applied when the KJV was revised by 50 prominent Christians back up by 32 Christians denominations? Are the rules spelt out in the Bible? Is it God or Jesus or disciple of Jesus set the rules? Sir the truth is bitter if it is against you. Jesus says according to the bible “hear oh Israel our God is one God “. Again he said God is greater than him (Jesus ). The day of judgement is known only by God Almighty Allah. Which rules will apply to change these self evident truths. I respect you Sir. It is a debate. Let’s other decide please.
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Jerome Smith The 24 rules of interpretation are natural laws of language that make it possible, linguistically speaking, for humans to communicate in meaningful ways by speech or in writing.
I used a sub-set of these Rules of Interpretation when I taught gifted and talented students at Cass Technical High School in Detroit, which at that time was world-renowned for being the most advanced example of quality education. I was visited by people from all over the world who came to see the program I was in, as well as many other programs available at Cass Technical High School. I myself attended Cass Technical High School not many years before that, majoring in the electrical curriculum. I also was on the Bible quiz team from Cass Technical High School that won the city championship. I also as a student was on the debate team, and won the regional championship in debate against all the surrounding high schools in southeastern Michigan.
I gave my students the assignment to write an interpretation and explanation of a series of poems, arranged as a “poetry interpretation ladder,” a series arranged by difficulty from easy to hard.
I emphasized to my students that the best interpretation of a poem is an interpretation that accounts for all the imagery in the poem harmoniously. A good interpretation cannot arbitrarily leave out a part of the poem that will not fit in to an attempted interpretation.
I mentioned before that I encountered Dr. Stenrouse, a graduate school professor at Wayne State University, when I was requested by the Detroit School District to attend her seminar. The seminar’s purpose was to develop a professional quality unit of instruction on Futurism (a most interesting subject).
In the seminar I mentioned in our discussion that when I taught poetry, I introduced my students to the Rules of Interpretation. Dr. Stenrouse was horrified. She said the subject of hermeneutics belongs to the field of theology and the Bible, not literature and poetry. I argued to the contrary: the basis for understanding any communication using language must involve hermeneutics or the Rules of Interpretation.
I have had a scholarly book on my shelves since I began teaching in 1962, but only took it off the shelf and actually read since I retired in 2001. I wish I would have read that book before I met up with Dr. Stenrouse. The book utterly refutes her position about teaching poetry. The name of the book is “Practical Criticism: A Study of Literary Judgment.” The author of the book is I. A. Richards. It is 362 pages long. Mr. Richards describes how he taught poetry, and studied the responses given by college students to a series of poems he asked them to explain or interpret. He did what I did, and I did not get my idea from him, for though I had his book, I had never read it until after I retired from teaching.
I first wrote my Rules of Interpretation when I was a high school student attending Cass Technical High School. I have since developed these rules into the form now presented in the October, 2010 Archives at the Real Bible Study website.
The Rules of Interpretation were apparently not properly applied when those who worked on creating the Revised Standard Version did their work. I have explained before why their work and their claims are very flawed: (1) this version was produced by scholars who do not believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible; (2) the RSV is based on a flawed Greek text based upon not the majority text but a minority text, which is the source of many textual errors, such as leaving out Acts 8:37, the so-called long ending of the Gospel of Mark, the story of the woman taken in adultery in John chapter 8, and so forth. Evangelical Bible-believing Christians largely rejected the RSV when it was published. It was welcomed in so-called main-line Protestant churches, all of which had been influenced by supposed advances in modern theology, and are not considered to be Evangelical Bible-believing Christians because they do not adhere to the Fundamentals of the Faith, but are liberals and Modernists.
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Ayigbe Eseme Sir Jerome Smith..you have advanced in your belief. Even you have issues with fellow Christians. Again you are a lecturer and would continue to defend your thesis. Whichever bible translation you have still has flaw despite your 24 rules of interpretation. In fact common sense will defeat these 24 rules of interpretation. Thank you once again for the lecture.
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Jerome Smith I think that it is not possible to use common sense to defeat my 24 rules of interpretation. But if you think so, you can pick one of the rules and provide your reason, logic, and evidence to refute it. You are not likely to succeed, but I invite you sometime to try. It would be a good learning experience. Remember my claim: if I can be refuted and corrected by evidence that is better than what I have already seen, I do respond to constructive correction based upon evidence, and I have changed my mind about something several times over the years. Are you willing to do the same?
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Adil Dean Ayigbe Eseme Allah is not Almighty but Jehovah. I don’t debate with Muslims much cause I know it is useless debating them or preaching them. Muslims never bother to investigate islam, Allah first. Allah was a idol among 360 other idols. Allah was the biggest, this Allah is not almighty. Our Jehovah is Almighty (Trinity). Go and search Allah’s history first then come back. We’ll talk.
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Ignorance is a disease. What language is Jehovah? What language is Allah? Can’t you reason like Jerome Smith, your mentor. Your ignorance will push into Hell. Which language is Oghene? Which language is Yahweh? Mumu like you. Before the coming of prophet Muhammad (SAW ) the Arabs in Mecca worshipped many idols. When the prophet called to worship Allah (Almighty God ) they objected. It took time before they were convinced and embraced Islam. Allah is unseen and they believed. But the idols were seen and felt yet they disbelieve in the idols. You need deliverance.
Missy Mercy Ayigbe, I asked if you are an Imam? You never answered. Was that an insult? I hardly think so.
However, what is an insult to you is that I am female and it is insulting that I even speak … Isn’t that right? You think females are for your pleasure only…..including your child bride which you never denied to have.
SICK BASTARD…..Now you can feel insulted. You will burn in hell for your treatment of women! The only 72 virgins you might get are all demons to torture you for all eternity for none such as you shall enter into my Father’s Kingdom.
You do not tell me how or what to say!!! You are both a wicked and evil Imam who leads people to hell.
It is a well known fact that most Muslims never read the Quran. They learn their truth from Imams who also recruit terrorists.
I am a child of the One True Living God. Muhammad might have smashed hundreds of idols surrounding the Kabal …. leaving only the idol ‘Baal’ who you call Allah.
The fact is you can never smash Our God and exhault your satanic God who is nothing!
PRAISE LORD JESUS WHO RULES FOREVER.
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Missy Mercy PS Mr. Thinks He knows it all (Ayigbe),
Mr. Smith was only recently put in my path by the Holy Spirit. And thanks to social media.
You are truly a fool if you think God will use me in the same way He will use a man who has studied the Bible since 1953.
Jesus lives in me and that is good enough. Like a demon you attack me because of the scriptures I post. My job is to share the Word Of God only.
I am not here to argue doctrine. God says we are not to strife! I share, but like a wild frothing at the mouth dog … You attack.
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Rob Lopez Ayigbe….in Christianity women and men can be friends through the bond of the Holy Spirit….nothing like Islam at all.
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Missy Mercy In Christ Jesus there are no distinctions for we are one body of priest.
God wanted us to understand the Supreme Sacrifice that has come into to world. Every other Sacrifice loses it’s substance in comparison to what God has raised in Jesus Christ.
We are consecrated to become a living, moving priestly body. We have not come together to sport our degrees, or intellectual, or theatrical capacities. We have come to minister unto God.
As a people who understand that we are a peculiar people of Royal Priesthood and a Holy Nation …. We should shoot for (push for) the praises oh Him who has called us out of darkness into His marvelous light.
The only sacrifice now that warms God’s heart is the sacrifice of constant praise.
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Ayigbe Eseme Missy Mercy… to answer you. I am not an Imam.
30- Jesus is the same human today, yesterday and forever (Hebrew 13:8)
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Notice that in an effort to disprove the Deity of Christ, the author of these “38 Reasons Why Jesus cannot be God” has added a word to the text of the Bible, the word “human,” which makes the objection invalid. You cannot tamper with the text of the Bible and change it to suit your argument or your fancy.
I have placed the following notes at Hebrews 13:8 in my book, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. If you study these notes carefully you will better understand what the Bible teaches.
the same. This verse declares Christ’s immutability “…that he is unchangeable; that he always was, is, and will be to all eternity, the same; that he is subject to no change either in his essence or in his perfections” (Wakefield, Vol. 1, p. 156). Cf. Php 2:6-8; Jas 1:17 and notes.
Note that the Incarnation was a change of estate, not nature. In the Incarnation Christ:
(1) has all the fullness of the Godhead dwelling in Him (Col 2:9);
(2) is One with the Father (Joh 10:30);
(3) is Omnipotent (cf. Joh 5:19; Joh 7:9-13; Joh 7:19; Joh 7:21; Joh 10:17-18; Joh 11:43-44; Joh 16:15);
(4) is Omniscient (cf. Mat 11:21; Mat 11:23; Joh 2:24-25; Joh 6:64; Joh 16:15);
(5) is Omnipresent (cf. Mat 18:20; Mat 28:20; Joh 3:13);
(6) has all things whatsoever the Father has (Joh 16:15);
(7) has power to remove sin (cf. Mat 9:2; Mat 9:6);
(8) received worship as God (cf. Mat 2:11; Mat 8:1-2; Mat 14:33; Joh 9:35-38).
Thus the Son remains essentially and eternally the same throughout His profound mutations of estate—pre-Incarnation, Incarnation, death, resurrection, glorification—even for the ages of eternity! (LNT, fn i). T76-4, God the Son is immutable. %Heb 13:9, *Heb 1:12, +*Exo 3:14; Exo 3:15; Exo 38:1, Psa 90:2; Psa 90:4; *Psa 102:27; *Psa 102:28; Psa 103:17, Isa 41:4; Isa 44:6, %+*Mal 3:6, %Mat 12:32; +*Mat 28:19 note. +*Joh 8:35; Joh 8:56-58, 2Co 1:19-20, Php 2:6, 1Ti 6:16, **Jas 1:17, Rev 1:4; Rev 1:8; Rev 1:11; Rev 1:17-18.
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