Another Bible Contradiction Answered

The Nugget:

Mar 6:5  And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.

The Muslim Challenge:

50,000 Errors and Biblical contradictions

If the Bible was divinely inspired, then why would it have so many really obvious contradictions?

 

[There followed a listing of 250 alleged Bible contradictions]

My Response:

That is a marvelous listing of alleged Bible contradictions.

I hope you will not mind if I borrow these (by making a copy via “copy and paste” to add to my collection of alleged Bible contradictions to answer). These always make for very interesting and instructive material for a deeper study of the Bible.

Of course you have provided too many examples to answer here on this discussion thread.

Of course, each supposed contradiction is an example of misreading the Bible text.

I will answer just one (now unnumbered) example:

All power is given unto [Jesus] in heaven and in earth.
– Matthew 28:18

Mat 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

And [Jesus] could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a few sick folk and healed them.
– Mark 6:5

To assert that this constitutes a contradiction involves two or three major errors in reading the Bible text:

(1) The chronological error. Failure to take into account the chronology of the narrative can lead to serious misconceptions regarding what the Bible affirms. Mark 6:5 takes place well before what is proclaimed in Matthew 28:18. The proclamation found in Matthew 28:18 was given after the glorious bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ.

(2) The insufficient context error. When sufficient context is provided for Mark 6:5,  we learn that a lack of faith may limit what God will do for a person, in this case, physical healing. The account demonstrates that the people of His own town Nazareth who knew Jesus and His family well were blocked from genuinely receiving His message and largely blocked from benefiting from His healing ministry.

Here is more of the context for Mark 6:5 to show how taking into account the immediate context helps to remove the alleged contradiction for those capable of reading the Bible apart from imposing their own unbelieving worldview which blinds them to seeing the simple truth that is being presented:

Mar 6:1  And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.
Mar 6:2  And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
Mar 6:3  Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
Mar 6:4  But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
Mar 6:5  And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
Mar 6:6  And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.

(3) Failure to take into account the wider context of the whole of Scripture. When we consult all that the Bible has to say on a particular subject or theme we will better understand what the Bible teaches. To find all that the Bible teaches we must use such resources as The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, or The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. These resources furnish cross references for every verse in the Bible, cross references which serve to explain, illustrate, or confirm what is said in the verse being studied.

Here are the cross references for the first clause in Mark 6:5, “he could there do.”

Mar 5:17; Mar 9:23, Gen 19:22; Gen 32:25, *Psa 78:41, Isa 59:1-2, *Mat 11:21. 13:58, Luk 13:34, Heb 4:2.

Mark 5:17
17  And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
King James Version

Mark 9:23
23  Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.
King James Version

Genesis 19:22
22  Haste thee, escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither. Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar.
King James Version

Genesis 32:25
25  And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob’s thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
King James Version

Psalms 78:41
41  Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
King James Version

Isaiah 59:1-2
1  Behold, the LORD’S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:
2  But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
King James Version

Matthew 11:21  Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

Matthew 13:58
58  And he did not many mighty works there because of their unbelief.
King James Version

Luke 13:34
34  O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!
King James Version

Hebrews 4:2
2  For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
King James Version

The proper response to our own lack of faith should be to follow the example presented in the New Testament of a man who responded to Jesus:

Mar_9:24  And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.

Consider the promise found in Hebrews 11:6,

Heb 11:6  But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

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Daily Bible Nugget #686, Ezekiel 33:16

The Nugget:

Eze 33:16  None of his sins that he hath committed shall be mentioned unto him: he hath done that which is lawful and right; he shall surely live.

My Comment:

To properly understand any verse or passage of Scripture we must take into account the near context and the wider context of the whole of Scripture.

The near context of Ezekiel 33:16 includes the preceding verses:

Eze 33:14  Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
Eze 33:15  If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Notice the words in Ezekiel 33:15, “without committing iniquity.” These words would bring to mind for those who have carefully read the Bible these two passages:

Lev 18:5  Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.

Jas 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

The book of James has a remarkable literary structure. That structure is called a chiasm. The word chiasm comes from the Greek, and if I recall correctly, alludes to the form of the letter X.

What this means is that the topics discussed by James in his book follow the pattern ABCDEFGH HGFEDCBA.

In the book of James the first topic is Patience, James 1:1-4. The last topic is Patience, James 5:7-12. The rest of the structure is presented on page 1847 of the Companion Bible. My point here is that James 2:10 is the middle or central member of the structure, which means this is the emphatic point James intends his book to stress: H: James 2:9, 10. Moses’ Law. One offence breaks it. H. James 2:11. Moses’ Law. One offence breaks it.

All of this is to stress that the Bible presents two ways of salvation:  Leviticus 18:5, keep the Law of Moses perfectly, or Genesis 15:6, fully place our faith and trust in the promises and provision God has  made for our salvation. This is done by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ:

John 3:16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Joh 5:24  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

No one but our Lord Jesus Christ has ever kept the whole law. But all of us are invited to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ in order to be saved, for that is something we all can do (Acts 16:31).

I have placed the following note at Ezekiel 33:16 in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge and The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury which you may study to dig far deeper into the plan of salvation:

None of his sins. Since the unsaved will go to hell to suffer eternal punishment (+*Eze 18:4 note, Eze 18:20 note; +Mat 25:46),

while the saved upon death go immediately to be with Christ (+2Co 5:8, +Php 1:23);

since the unsaved will experience eternal torment (Luk 16:24),

while the saved experience eternal life (Joh 11:25, 26, +*Rev 14:13),

there is no middle ground (**Joh 3:36).

The sins of the saved person “shall not be mentioned unto him” (+*Eze 18:22),

for Christ died for our sins (**2Co 5:15; **2Co 5:17; **2Co 5:21),

forever purged our sins by his shed blood (Eph 1:7, Rev 1:5)

by the forever complete and perfect sacrifice of himself just once (Heb 10:10, 11, 12)

on the cross (1Pe 2:24).

In Christ we are a new creature (*2Co 5:17),

justified by faith (Rom 5:1),

no longer under condemnation (Joh 3:18; Joh 5:24, Rom 8:1),

possessing the righteousness of Christ (Php 3:9),

ready to be presented faultless before God (Jud 1:24),

on the basis of our placing faith in his finished work for us (Eph 2:8, 9, 10).

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Daily Bible Nugget #685, 2 Peter 2:7

The Nugget:

2Pe 2:7  And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (KJV, King James Version)

2Pe 2:7  Yet, God rescued Lot, a man who had his approval. Lot was distressed by the lifestyle of people who had no principles and lived in sexual freedom. (GW, God’s Word translation)

My Comment:

Peter’s message in the context of this passage is that God is able to deliver those who belong to Him from the surrounding wickedness present in today’s culture.

No Christian has any business supporting any part of the wicked culture around us:

2Ch 19:2  And Jehu the son of Hanani the seer went out to meet him, and said to king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the LORD. (KJV)

2Ch 19:2  Jehu, son of the seer Hanani, asked King Jehoshaphat, “Why do you help wicked people and love those who hate the LORD? The LORD’S anger is directed toward you because you have done this. (GW)

No Christian has any business participating in protests and civil disorder that are in support of ungodly causes or lifestyles:

Exo 23:2  Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment: (KJV)

Exo 23:2  Never follow a crowd in doing wrong. When you testify in court, don’t side with the majority to pervert justice. (GW)

Exo 23:2 Do not be moved to do wrong by the general opinion, or give the support of your words to a wrong decision: (BBE, Basic English Bible)

Exo 23:2  Never follow a crowd in doing wrong. When you testify in court, don’t side with the majority to pervert justice. (GW)

The answer to the decidedly wrong direction many are turning to is the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. We who know the Lord Jesus Christ need to actively share the truth of the Gospel, the truth of the Bible, with those God has placed in our circle of influence.

Be prepared to share answers to the moral questions and Bible questions others ask you.

1Pe 3:15  But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:  (KJV)

1Pe 3:15  But dedicate your lives to Christ as Lord. Always be ready to defend your confidence in God when anyone asks you to explain it. However, make your defense with gentleness and respect. (GW)

1Pe 3:15 Honor Christ and let him be the Lord of your life. Always be ready to give an answer when someone asks you about your hope. (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

Every person is of extreme value and importance to God (Matthew 16:26). God’s Word declares it is wise to win souls to Him.

Pro 11:30  The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise. (KJV)

Pro 11:30  The fruit of a righteous person is a tree of life, and a winner of souls is wise.  (GW)

Pro 11:30 Live right, and you will eat from the life-giving tree. And if you act wisely, others will follow. (CEV)

When we consider what is taking place today, it is very clear that too many genuine Christians have not been doing their job!

Jas 5:19  Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20  Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. (KJV)

Jas 5:19  My brothers and sisters, if one of you wanders from the truth, someone can bring that person back.
Jas 5:20  Realize that whoever brings a sinner back from the error of his ways will save him from death, and many sins will be forgiven. (GW)

 

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The Problem of Lot’s Daughters

What the Bible says:

2Pe 2:6  And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

2Pe 2:7  And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

2Pe 2:8  (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

2Pe 2:9  The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

The Atheist Challenge:

If you are righteous like Lot, u can get away with death as punishment from having sex with your kids cause god is on your side.

The gospel of jesus 1.0

Debbie: Jesus! Why did you save lot & his daughters but killed all the sexually immoral and perverted people in Sodom & Gomorrah? (Jude 1:7)

Jesus: I saved them because it is not immoral if ever you want to have sex with your drunk father, Deb. (Genesis 19:34)

My response to the Opening Post:

What the Bible records is true history. The Bible nowhere suggests that we follow the bad examples of some of its characters. This may be another example to show that some atheists do not understand how to read the Bible and interpret it correctly.

MT responded:

thats why the bible is not in the history section in the library same as its not use as history book in history class

I responded:

Evidently you have not read the book titled The Bible as History.

MT replied:

like i said the bible is not in the history section same as its not use as history book in schools

I replied:

If you have spent time actually studying the Bible you would know that the Bible contains HISTORY, letters (epistles), law, and prophecy, and more.

So while you may not find the Bible located in the history section of a public library, that does not refute the fact that the Bible contains works of history within its many documents.

The history within the Bible has been carefully verified by current modern scholarship.

The many works written by K. Kitchen, including especially his book titled The Reliability of the Old Testament, are sufficient to document this.

Scholars working in the field of archeology have likewise demonstrated the accuracy of the history recorded in the Bible. I just finished reading a book yesterday by Eric Metaxas titled Is Atheism Dead? Part 2 of this book reports on the bearing of archeology on the truth of the Bible. I found Chapter 18, “The Discovery of Biblical Sodom,” to be most fascinating.

Chapter 9, “The Evidence of Archaeology,” relates the history of the discovery of the empire of the Hittites, once thought to be a mere Canaanite tribe. Some “scholars” of former generations mocked the Bible’s references to this great and powerful people.

Contemporary scientists have proven that the Biblical references to this history are correct. Because of my interest in linguistics, I was fascinated to learn that the Hittite language was an Indo-European language. At the time I taught courses in world history this was not yet known because the huge libraries of tablets found in Hittite libraries had not yet been translated.

 

MT replied:

no matter how long is ur reply, still not a fact..bible is not use as reference book in history class and its not place in history section in the library. But only use as reference at churches and faith dscusions. Let me know if that fact changes

I responded:

It might be possible that you did not know that Biblical Christianity is the only fact-based religion. It is based upon the fact that certain events it records actually happened in history.

These events were seen and experienced by people who recorded the facts.

The evidence demonstrates the historicity of the record, including the bodily resurrection of Christ.

So while it may be true that the Bible is classified in the Dewey Decimal System as belonging to the 220 section in the library that hardly invalidates the fact that the Bible contains accurate history.

I responded:

Let me share the specifics of the book I alluded to in my earlier comment:

Werner Keller, The Bible as History: A Confirmation of the Book of Books. Translated by William Neil. New York: William Morrow and Company. (C) 1956. Fully revised by the author, 1964. 457 pages.

MT replied:

same answer, the bible is not used in history class and cant be found in history section in the library. But its in religious section togther with hindu books

My response:

It may be that you have not gotten the point even yet! I will try to help you.

Just because the Bible is found in libraries in the religion section, not the history section, does not deny the FACT that the Bible contains much history.

The Bible is so accurate in its recording of history that modern archeologists use it to guide their researches in the ancient land of Israel.

The Bible has been used to help with the original discovery of oil in the Middle East.

Both Judaism and Christianity are FACT-BASED religions. Their claims to truth are based upon the certainty and correctness of the history recorded in the Bible.

Hinduism and all other non-Judeo-Christian religions are not fact-based religions: that is, these religions are not staking their truth-claims upon historical events, if any, that they record in their sacred texts.

You mentioned that you studied comparative religions at Harvard University. Did they introduce you to the writings of Hendrik Kraemer?

He wrote a book titled World Cultures and World Religions: the Coming Dialogue.

Another title he wrote: Why Christianity of all Religions?

MT replied:

same no matter how u deny the fact

same answer, the bible is not used in history class and cant be  found in history section in the library. But its in religious section together with hindu books.

My response:

At least you have been consistent in your replies!

But notice that your replies give no evidence that you have either understood or have the ability to respond to my truth claims.

It ought to be obvious that your repeated fact that the Bible is classified in the library as a book of religion does not deny the fact that the Bible records accurate history.

Since the history the Bible records has been proven accurate, the claims of the Bible are true.

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National Day of Prayer

The Nugget:

1Ti 2:1  I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
1Ti 2:2  For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. (KJV)

1Ti 2:1  First of all, I encourage you to make petitions, prayers, intercessions, and prayers of thanks for all people,
1Ti 2:2  for rulers, and for everyone who has authority over us. Pray for these people so that we can have a quiet and peaceful life always lived in a godly and reverent way. (GW)

1Ti 2:1 First of all, I ask you to pray for everyone. Ask God to help and bless them all, and tell God how thankful you are for each of them.
1Ti 2:2 Pray for kings and others in power, so that we may live quiet and peaceful lives as we worship and honor God. (CEV)

My Comment:

I think it is a very good thing to observe a National Day of Prayer. I believe our country and the whole world situation needs even more than just a single day of prayer.

The Bible tells us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem (Psalm 122:6) with a promise attached.

The Bible encourages us to pray for one another to receive healing (James 5:16).

There is much more in the Bible about prayer.

In the United States of America our First Amendment guarantees freedom of speech and freedom of religion. There are many today who seem not to believe in freedom and liberty except for themselves. In the news most recently and now before the United States Supreme Court is the case of a football coach who prayed after each game had ended to thank the Lord for the safety of the players. No students were required to stay for prayer after the game. No one was pressured to take part in a religious act against their will. But from what I have read, school administrators insisted that the coach stop this practice. The coach disagreed and refused to follow the directive of the school administration.

On this National Day of Prayer I think it would be wise to pray for our schools, our students, our teachers, and our administrators that they would exercise greater wisdom in respecting the free speech rights and religious freedom rights of both staff and students. It is nonsense to suppose that the Founding Fathers who wrote the Bill of Rights and the Constitution would have objected in their day to a school staff member praying silently by himself after a game at a public school after all had left the field before re-entering the school.

Some might object and say such prayer  activity on the part of a public school employee amounts to proselytizing. Again, I would say nonsense. I object to the proselytizing going on daily in many schools with regard to the so-called gay agenda. I object firmly against any instruction in public schools about the so-called “critical race theory.” Instructional time is and has already been in short supply. When two-thirds of students cannot meet the reading standards of the National Assessment of Educational Progress we need to get back to teaching what really matters–Reading, Writing, and Arithmetic.

 

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How to Correctly Interpret the Bible

4-22-22 How to Correctly Interpret the Bible

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The Atheist Challenge:

Want to know a lot about the bible? talk to an Atheist!

They’ve read it more thoroughly than religious  people.

Which is why they don’t believe in it.

And here’s a couple of reasons…

Cannibalism, wizards, talking donkeys, talking snakes, incest, dragons, Roman propaganda, etc.

 

My initial comment:

Atheists demonstrate they do not know how to read old books. They have hardly read it more thoroughly than well-grounded and carefully studied Bible believing Christians.

To read a work of literature properly you must read it in terms of its worldview, not yours.

To read a work of literature properly you must know and follow the rules of interpretation.

Others have well said that it takes more faith to be an atheist than to be a Bible believing Christian.

 

A responder to my comment asks:

“RULES” of interpretation? “RULES”? Not guidelines, but “RULES”?

What in the anunnaki are you talking about? “Rules of Interpretation”, as far as my knowledge is concerned, is ONLY used in Legal Parlance.

To be fair to you, I’d like to ask for a reference to this “RULES” of Interpretation when reading literature.

Thanks a lot.

 

I answered:

I have posted 24 rules of interpretation at my website:

 

How to correctly interpret the Bible

How to correctly interpret the Bible–A few more common-sense rules

 

I like your insight regarding rules of interpretation being a part of Legal Parlance. I have a number of books in my personal library written by attorneys who discuss, among other matters, the rules of evidence. They utilize the rules of evidence to establish the historicity of the New Testament.

My favorite has been a volume written by Irwin H. Linton titled A Lawyer Examines the Bible. Linton introduces a number of substantial classic works on Christian evidences from more than a century ago. He observes that good arguments do not go out of date.

One of the most significant titles he references is Simon Greenleaf’s Testimony of the Evangelists, Examined by the Rules of Evidence Administered by the Courts of Justice. Greenleaf was a noted authority on the rules of evidence as the author of a major work on that subject.

Another is a much more recent volume by attorney William Mark Lanier, Atheism on Trial: A Lawyer Examines the Case for Unbelief.

I attended a graduate seminar at Wayne State University. I mentioned during the seminar that I employed rules of interpretation when I taught my students how to interpret poetry. The professor was literally horrified. That just shows she had never studied the fascinating volume by I. A. Richards titled Practical Criticism. What he did is what I did in my classroom instruction before I ever  knew of his book. I shared a list of about twelve rules of interpretation with my students. It is from that list I developed my fuller list of 24 rules after many discussions regarding Bible interpretation with many others both on line and in person.

4-23-22

APD responded:

Seriously? You are IMPOSING these “RULES” (would you agree if I imply that these are laws? Considering that these are “rules”?) that you’ve made, to people who does not have the concept of faith and/or belief to a deity/ies?

The concept of not having faith or belief to a god is ultimately unbeknownst to you. I suggest you set your mind secularly before engaging with atheists and the like. Meaning, you must STABLISH your conversations with them rationally and/or logically first.

Otherwise, they will only see you as someone who believes in Santa Claus.

You present to us, “RULES” which is tantamount to “LAWS”, that “YOU MADE” for purposes of “BIBLE STUDY”, and you expect us to follow said “LAWS” that “YOU MADE”?

Seriously, this sounds logical to you?

 

My response to APD:

For many years I was made by profession a reading specialist because I was successful in helping students improve their reading comprehension.

I suggest that your response to my comment indicates you may have failed to accurately comprehend what I stated, though I greatly appreciate that you have taken the time  to respond.

My original 12 “rules” were in part devised to assist my students to know why some interpretations of poetry are better than others. In other words, these are principles of literary judgment written in a form even my high school students could understand and apply.

When I was asked by the school administration to sponsor the Bible Discussion Club, those discussions were the help and motivation to further expand my set of Rules of Interpretation to address the principles helpful to resolve differences in Bible interpretation as they arose.

This was in answer to the assertion, “That is just your interpretation.” Well, of course, if I presented my case or position, it is my interpretation. If you have a better interpretation, how do you justify it? How do you determine the basis for judging that your interpretation is better than mine?

The answer, of course, is that if your interpretation better conforms to the rules of interpretation, then you have shown that your interpretation is superior to mine, and if I am honest to my own principles of literary judgment, I will change my mind and agree with you.

A long and careful reading of my responses to commenters on my site would reveal that I frequently remark that if any commenter disagrees with me and demonstrates better evidence supporting a different position than I presently hold, I will change my mind. On my site there are several instances where I have done just that.

You will kindly note that I answered your original question using strictly secular principles. I directed you to where I presented a listing of 24 Rules of Interpretation. I mentioned the horror my secular professor at Wayne State University in Detroit, Michigan, expressed when I affirmed there are principles of literary judgment that are useful in teaching students how to interpret poetry. I shared with you the title of a secular work of literary criticism by I. A. Richards who, unknown to me at the time, though I then owned the book but had not read it yet, used the same procedure for teaching poetry that I did.

I therefore conclude that any genuinely literate atheist would concur with me that my principles of literary interpretation and judgment are most valid in arriving at justifiable and correct interpretations of any written discourse, including the Bible.

And as for me being logical, your response to me reveals the validity of my comment, when I stated that “Atheists demonstrate they do not know how to read old books.” Of course, my principles of how to understand written documents of any kind apply to any work, whether old or new.

4-24-22

APD replied:

as I am right that the concept of not having faith is unbeknownst to you. There was nothing secular about your set of rules nor your comments/replies.

Such rules are irrelevant to art, where one MUST have general knowledge of the art form in order to technical interpret it and/or emotional connection to a certain art to interpret the same.

Artful forms of literature cannot be interpreted with the same set of rules as interpreting historical accounts/fiction, essays, novels, fables, etc.

Each of these types of literature has a totally different form from each other, and cannot be interpreted using the same rules.

If your book was to help/assist students, then such rules are not rules. Using hyperbole on a title is generally used in news casting, to which imo is unethical, an alloyed form of writing, commonly used by con artists, propagandist, activists, and extremists.

 

I responded:

You state:

“as I am right that the concept of not having faith is unbeknownst to you. There was nothing secular about your set of rules nor your comments/replies.”

(1) You have no basis in fact to affirm that “the concept of not having faith” is not known to me.

That is not the subject I am addressing, so I have made no comment about that issue. I will say that anyone who will read with care the Gospel of John is capable of experiencing the result John states is the purpose for writing his Gospel:

John 20:30  And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:

John 20:31  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

(2) So far, you have not given any evidence that you know anything about the rules of interpretation I have been referencing, even though I furnished the necessary link to access them. Do you even know what they are?

The rules of interpretation are not limited to the genre of poetry. The rules of interpretation work well for fiction or nonfiction. They are especially relevant to judging the validity of interpretations of the short story. I used them with the story “The Bet,” by Anton Chekov. I wrote about this on my site also.

 

(3) As for “There was nothing secular about your set of rules nor your comments/replies.”

There is nothing secular about the title of this site, “Christians do you REALLY know your Bible?”

Nevertheless, you will find it hard, if not impossible, to prove that using the principles and practices advocated or illustrated by I. A. Richards is anything but secular.

In my initial comment above I stated:

To read a work of literature properly you must read it in terms of its worldview, not yours.

4-25-22

APD replied:

You have not addressed my points, especially the last. Should I assume that those are correct?

I responded:

Is this the point you refer to?

“If your book was to help/assist students, then such rules are not rules. Using hyperbole on a title is generally used in news casting, to which imo is unethical, an alloyed form of writing, commonly used by con artists, propagandist, activists, and extremists.”

Now that you mentioned it, let me tell you just a little bit about my book:

When I began teaching, I was assigned the two bottom-ability homeroom groups of students to teach reading and English. These students were 3 to 4 years behind in reading achievement as measured by the tests used by the school district.

Many, if not most, of my students were unable to read the English book (Enjoying English 7, by Don M. Wolfe and Lela T. Hamilton, published by the L. W. Singer Company), so I wrote my own instructional material in the form of short units on 3 by 5 file cards using programmed instruction which I had learned about by reading Shelly Uman’s book, New Trends in Reading Instruction.

At the end of the semester I gave the required reading comprehension test (Stanford test of reading comprehension). The lowest ability group (the only class I used my programmed instruction units with) showed the greatest improvement. The class as a whole advanced two years in grade level reading achievement in one semester. The highest scorers were reading at a grade level that was as  many years ahead as they had been behind.

You can find my book on Amazon by searching for my name and the title, The Language Enrichment Program.

 

Were you to actually check out my reading program you would find it entirely secular.

So much for your mistaken judgment that, in your opinion, my book “is unethical, an alloyed form of writing, commonly used by con artists, propagandist, activists, and extremists.”

APD replied:

Let me say that again, to quote: “If your book was to help/assist students, then such rules are not rules. Using hyperbole on a title is generally used in news casting, to which imo is unethical, an alloyed form of writing, commonly used by con artists, propagandist, activists, and extremists.”

I say didn’t your book was unethical  It seems you are the one who needs some lessons on reading comprehension. Or is it that you are indeed one of’em con artist trying put words into somebody else’s mouth.

You should have not used hyperbole on your title, that was all that I was saying.

I responded:

It may be you are the one who may need some lessons on reading comprehension! If you do, I shared with you the title of the reading program I have written that is available on Amazon. It has helped thousands of students in my classes and elsewhere and works with students of any age from third grade to graduate school.

My references to the Rules of Interpretation are not references to a book but references to a list of 12 rules of interpretation devised to help students understand why some interpretations of a literary work are better or worse than other interpretations. There is nothing necessarily religious in applying rules of interpretation to literary study. My approach to interpretation in my school setting is entirely secular. I furnished you evidence for that by referring to the work of I. A. Richards who did what I did.

There is no hyperbole involved by labeling my lesson plan “Rules of Interpretation.” If you knew more about the subject you would understand that if you violate any of these rules in devising an interpretation your interpretation will be wrong or less than ideal or satisfactory.

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Muslim objections to the Resurrection answered

The Muslim challenge:

“A new heavenly or glorified body should be free from blemish but Jesus was ‘resurrected’ with injuries he sustained at ‘death.’ This is major proof that he did not die.”

TK states:

actually none of the disciples witnessed his persecution or death. They fled when he was caught. Some Christians speculate that they came back to watch. But that’s mere speculation. The gospels only mentioned John with his mother Mary but the story is also doubtful cos their position changed from at a distance, to nearer to him to just below the cross. The records itself is so inconsistent, leaving us with doubt that they were even there. Furthermore, Jesus apparently told John to take his mother home. Strengthening the belief no one witnessed his death.

And truly no one saw his resurrection.

If anyone told you there are witnesses, they’re lying. None of the gospels mention anyone seeing him rising from dead.

 

My response:

By your comments I must conclude that you have never read the New Testament record carefully for yourself.

Peter saw a portion of the events.

John saw even more and testifies to the facts in his Gospel and letters.

Mark was also at the scene of some of the events.

A number of women from Galilee who were both disciples and supporters carefully observed these events.

I hope you will take the time to correct your mistaken opinion by carefully reading and believing the primary source documents in the New Testament for yourself.

 

TK’s response to me:

your conclusion is wrong. The crucifixion event is something i paid a lot of attention on, more than any other parts of the gospels. I read all the 4 accounts in detail and comparing them. I even had lengthy discussion with a christian admin and in the end he couldnt resolve the discrepancies found across the gospels, and just left it to faith.

btw, why do christians always assume Muslims make noise about their bible without having read it carefully first?

You can stop your false assumptions about me.

My response to TK:

The evidence that my assumptions are not false is provided by your statements about and against the truth of the historical record preserved in the 27 primary source documents now found in the New Testament.

 

Your opening post, stating that:

“A new heavenly or glorified body should be free from blemish but Jesus was ‘resurrected’ with injuries he sustained at ‘death.’ This is major proof that he did not die.”

is pure assumption not based on the evidence of historical fact.

The fact of the empty tomb (acknowledged by all historians who have made a study of the evidence), the fact of the otherwise inexplicable utter change in the disciples from men hiding in fear to fearless proclaimers of the resurrected Christ is explained by the fact that they saw and handled the person who now is the risen from the dead, complete with the identifying marks of the crucifixion, risen Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ Himself.

That you or anyone else can read the four Gospel accounts and find what appear to be discrepancies to you does not detract from their historical truthfulness or validity. It is most common to find apparent discrepancies between accounts of eye witnesses to an event even in our day. Just ask any experienced trial lawyer or criminal investigator about their experiences.

The fact that the witnesses recorded in the four Gospels do not report exactly the same things in the exactly same words or order testifies to their independence as witnesses. It proves they did not collude to concoct a unified testimony. It proves their accounts are actually true.

Now, if you believe you have found any fatal discrepancies in the Gospel record, feel free to share one or two examples. I may be able to share with you what are the answers to the supposed discrepancies you have found.

TK replied:

I just brought up one fatal discrepancy.

Glorified body but with wounds suffered at death

Major discrepancy!!

But instead of dealing with this issue, you go on and on and on about the truthfulness of his resurrection

 

I answered:

It would seem most obvious that the wounds Jesus suffered at His crucifixion were indeed totally healed. This, of course, is in itself an additional miracle associated with the resurrection.

You may remember that Thomas was not present when the rest of the disciples were gathered the first time Jesus appeared to them after His resurrection. Thomas did not believe the report of the disciples that they had actually seen Jesus alive.

Thomas said he would not believe unless he both saw and felt the marks of the nails in His hands and felt the wound in His side:

Joh 20:24 Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came.

Joh 20:25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord.” But he said to them, “Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe.”

Joh 20:26 Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them.

Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you.”

Joh 20:27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.”

Joh 20:28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!”

Notice two or more additional miracles reported in John’s narrative. Jesus entered the locked room and stood among them. Jesus invited Thomas to satisfy his stated requirements before Thomas would believe. Thomas believed.

The marks in the body of Jesus proved that He is the same person who had been placed in the grave after His crucifixion. This proves His bodily resurrection.

This shows that sometimes our human reasoning is mistaken. To suggest, as you have, that Jesus in His glorified body should not have retained the scars of His wounds on the cross, is mistaken. Jesus Himself convinced His disciples that He was the very same Jesus who was crucified but now is risen from the dead.

Luk 24:36 As they were talking about these things, Jesus himself stood among them, and said to them, “Peace to you!”

Luk 24:37 But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit.

Luk 24:38 And he said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts?

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.”

Luk 24:40 And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.

Luk 24:41 And while they still disbelieved for joy and were marveling, he said to them, “Have you anything here to eat?”

Luk 24:42 They gave him a piece of broiled fish,

Luk 24:43 and he took it and ate before them.

 

TK’s response to me:

your first point (his wounds totally healed) is your opinion, not based on evidence.

Then you contradict yourself saying Thomas saw the wounds and was convinced.

Thirdly if he could enter the closed room, why did he have to roll the tomb door to get out?

 

My response:

Thank you for continuing this conversation.

If Jesus appeared before His disciples in the locked room still suffering from his wounds at Calvary, he would surely be in bad shape.

The spear thrust to His side alone would have permanently disabled Him.

With nail wounds through His feet He could hardly have been walking around.

There is nothing in the historical record preserved in the New Testament  documents that suggests in any way that He was suffering from unhealed wounds.

Therefore, my opinion is based on the evidence we actually have.

The fact that the appearance of Jesus to the disciples transformed them from being very frightened (they had taken refuge where they did “for fear of the Jews”) to being very bold ever after in their proclamation of the bodily resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ confirms the correctness of what you call my opinion.

John 20:19  Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

As for who moved the stone, it likely was moved by the angels who were met at the scene that are mentioned in the record.

The stone was moved to demonstrate that the tomb was empty. “He is not here” is what the record states.

Matthew 28:6  He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay.

Mark 16:6  And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.

Luke 24:6  He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee,

It is not necessary to suppose that Jesus required any help to exit the tomb. Nothing stated in the record requires this supposition.

TK’s response:

You’re assuming his wounds were healed cos he seemed to be ok when he met the disciples.

But to Mary he said “don’t touch me”, obviously still in pain.

And then he was hungry and asked for fish. A glorified body gets hungry?! What?!

There is no need to roll away the tomb as a sign he’s risen, cos the women were coming and they would have found it empty.

Btw, this whole story abt tomb is also very doubtful cos until now nobody knew the exact tomb Jesus was supposedly buried in

 

My response to TK:

You pose some very interesting claims and questions!

(1) Unfortunately for your case, Jesus did not tell Mary “Don’t touch me.” That is a mistranslation. Furthermore, Jesus did not say that because He was still in pain from unhealed wounds!

Joh 20:17  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. (KJV)

Joh 20:17  Jesus saith unto her – Be not detaining me, for, not yet, have I ascended unto the Father; but be going unto my disciples, and say unto them – I am ascending unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God. (EB, Emphasized Bible, Rotherham)

The Greek grammar involved for “Touch”:

Present imperative, used to prohibit action in progress.

The Idiom involved for “Touch”:

“To touch” is used for detention, or for diverting from any purpose.

Thus, Jesus assured Mary that He was not leaving immediately, that is, ascending to heaven, but that she would have further opportunities to see Him.

Notice in this record in John’s Gospel, recorded just ten verses later, Jesus encourages Thomas to touch Him and feel the scars from His wounds:

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

 

Notice the record in Matthew 28:9-10,

Mat 28:9  And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.

Mat 28:10  Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me.

 

(2) Jesus was not starving from hunger when He asked if they had any food to eat. Rather, He wanted to assure them that He was indeed their risen Savior, emphasizing “that it is I myself”:

Luk 24:36  And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

Luk 24:37  But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

Luk 24:38  And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Luk 24:40  And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Luk 24:41  And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

Luk 24:42  And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

Luk 24:43  And he took it, and did eat before them.

 

(3) There was certainly a need to roll away the stone door that blocked the entrance to the tomb. One of the worries the women expressed was how were they to gain entrance to the tomb so they could complete the task of properly preparing the body of Jesus:

Mar 16:1  And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

Mar 16:2  And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

Mar 16:3  And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre?

 

(4) There is no indication in the text of the New Testament that the women were unsure of which tomb Jesus was laid!

Mar 15:43  Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

Mar 15:44  And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.

Mar 15:45  And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.

Mar 15:46  And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre.

Mar 15:47  And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid.

Luke records:

Luk 23:55  And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

This testimony of Luke, corroborated by Mark, effectively demolishes the notion that the women did not know precisely where the tomb of Jesus was!

 

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Daily Bible Nugget #684, Isaiah 30:18

The Nugget:

Isa 30:18  And therefore will the LORD wait, that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him. (KJV)

Isa 30:18 Therefore the LORD waits to be gracious to you, and therefore he exalts himself to show mercy to you. For the LORD is a God of justice; blessed are all those who wait for him. (ESV)

Isa 30:18  The LORD is waiting to be kind to you. He rises to have compassion on you. The LORD is a God of justice. Blessed are all those who wait for him.  (GW)

Isa 30:18 The LORD God is waiting to show how kind he is and to have pity on you. The LORD always does right; he blesses those who trust him. (CEV)

My Comment:

Isaiah 30:18 is an encouraging Bible promise. You will always get more out of verses like this one if you consult the cross references to find out what the rest of the Bible has to say about the themes in a verse you are studying.

Below, I share the cross references provided in three major Bible study resources, from oldest to newest:

from The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:

Isaiah 30:18

therefore: Isa 55:8; Exo 34:6; Hos 2:14; Rom 5:20, Rom 9:15-18

wait: Isa 18:4, Isa 57:17-18; Jer 31:18-20; Hos 5:15, Hos 6:1-2, Hos 11:8-9; Jon 3:4-10; Mat 15:22-28; Luk 15:20; Rom 9:22; 2Pe 3:9, 2Pe 3:15

will he be: Isa 33:10-12; Psa 46:10-11, Psa 76:5-10; Luk 24:26-27; Act 2:33-39, Act 5:31; Eph 1:6, Eph 1:20-23

for the Lord: Isa 33:5, Isa 42:1-4; Deut 32:4; 1Sa 2:3; Job 35:14; Psa 99:4; Jer 10:24-25; Mic 7:18-20; Mal 2:17; Rom 2:2-10; Eph 1:8

blessed: Isa 8:17, Isa 25:9, Isa 26:7-8, Isa 40:31; Psa 2:12, Psa 27:14, Psa 28:6-7, Psa 34:8, Psa 40:1-3; Psa 62:1-2, Psa 62:5-8, Psa 84:12; Pro 16:20; Jer 17:7; Lam 3:25-26; Mic 7:7-9; Luk 2:25; Rom 8:25-28; Jas 5:11

 

from The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:

Isaiah 30:18

therefore. Isa 32:2; *Isa 55:8; Isa 55:9; *Exo 34:6; Exo 34:7; Hos 2:14; *Rom 5:20; *Rom 9:15-18

wait. H2442. William Wilson defines the Hebrew term rendered wait “to look for, to wait, to desire” (Old Testament Word Studies; p. 470). Compare H6960, Psa 37:34 n; H3176, Psa 69:3 n. Isa 8:17 h. Isa 18:4; Isa 57:17; Isa 57:18; *Isa 64:4 h. Job 32:4 h. Psa 33:20 h. Psa 106:13 h. Dan 12:12 h. *Hos 5:15; Hos 6:1; Hos 6:2; Hos 6:9 h. *Hab 2:3 h. *Zep 3:8 h. +*Mat 23:39; +*Luk 21:31; +*Act 3:19-21

be gracious. +*Exo 34:6; *Jer 31:18-20; *Jon 3:4-10; Zep 3:15; *Zec 10:6; *Mat 15:22-28; *Luk 6:35; *Luk 15:20; Rom 9:22; Rom 9:23; *2Pe 3:9; 2Pe 3:15

be exalted. Isa 33:10-12; *Psa 46:10; Psa 46:11; Psa 76:5-10; *Luk 24:26; Luk 24:27; *Act 2:33-39; *Act 5:31; *Eph 1:6; Eph 1:20-23

have mercy. T827. Isa 48:9; Isa 60:10; Exo 33:19; Exo 34:6; Exo 34:7; Deut 4:31; *Job 11:6; Psa 62:11; Psa 62:12; *Psa 85:10; Psa 98:3; Psa 100:5; Psa 103:13; Psa 103:17; *Psa 130:4; Psa 130:7; Psa 147:10; Psa 147:11; *Jer 31:20; Hos 2:23; *Hos 11:8; Hos 11:9; ✓Zec 10:6; *Jas 2:13; ✓2Pe 3:9; 2Pe 3:15

God of judgment. Isa 33:5; *Isa 42:1-4; Isa 45:21. ✓Isa 55:8; +*Gen 18:25; +*Deut 32:4; *1Sa 2:3; *Job 35:14; Psa 92:15; +*Psa 94:2; *Psa 99:4; Psa 103:6; +*Jer 10:24; Jer 10:25; ✓Mic 7:18-20; *Zep 3:5; *Mal 2:17; *Joh 5:30; *Rom 2:2-10; *Eph 1:8

blessed. ƒ43, +Deut 28:3; Isa 32:20; Isa 56:2; *Psa 2:12; *Psa 28:6; Psa 28:7; *Psa 34:8; *Psa 84:12; *Pro 16:20; *Jer 17:7

wait for him. Isa 8:17; Isa 25:9; *Isa 26:7; Isa 26:8; Isa 33:2; *Isa 40:31; *Psa 27:14; *Psa 37:7; +*Psa 37:34; *Psa 40:1-3; *Psa 62:1; Psa 62:2; Psa 62:5-8; *Psa 130:5; Psa 130:6; *Lam 3:25; Lam 3:26; *Mic 7:7-9; *Luk 2:25; Act 1:4; *Rom 8:25-28; *Jas 5:7; Jas 5:11

 

from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Isaiah 30:18

therefore. Isa 32:2; *Isa 55:8; *Isa 55:9, +*Exo 34:6; +*Exo 34:7, Hos 2:14, *Rom 5:20; *Rom 9:15, 16, 17, 18.

wait. S# H2442. William Wilson defines the Hebrew term rendered wait “to look for, to wait, to desire” (Old Testament Word Studies, p. 470). Compare S# H6960, Psa 37:34 note; S# H3176, Psa 69:3 note. Isa 8:17 h. Isa 18:4; Isa 57:17, 18; *Isa 64:4 h. Gen 8:12, Job 32:4 h. +Psa 25:3; Psa 33:20 h. Psa 69:3; Psa 106:13 h. Dan 12:12 h. *Hos 5:15; Hos 6:1, 2; Hos 6:9 h. *Hab 2:3 h. *Zep 3:8 h. +*Mat 23:39, +*Luk 21:31, Joh 11:6, +*Act 3:19, 20, 21, Rom 2:4, 1Pe 3:20.

be gracious. Isa 33:2, +*Exo 34:6, 2Ki 13:23, Jer 8:6; *Jer 31:18, 19, 20, *Jon 3:4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Zep 3:15, *Zec 10:6, *Mat 15:22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, *Luk 6:35; *Luk 15:20, Rom 9:22, 23, +*2Pe 3:9; +*2Pe 3:15.

be exalted. +Isa 12:4; Isa 33:10, 11, 12, *Psa 46:10; *Psa 46:11; Psa 76:5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, *Luk 24:26; *Luk 24:27, *Act 2:33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39; *Act 5:31, *Eph 1:6; *Eph 1:20, 21, 22, 23.

have mercy. T827, Isa 48:9; Isa 60:10, Exo 33:19; +Exo 34:6; +Exo 34:7, Deut 4:31, *Job 11:6, Psa 62:11, 12; *Psa 85:10; Psa 98:3; Psa 100:5; Psa 103:13; Psa 103:17; *Psa 130:4; *Psa 130:7; Psa 147:10, 11, *Jer 31:20, Hos 2:23; *Hos 11:8; *Hos 11:9, **Zec 10:6, *Jas 2:13, +**2Pe 3:9; +**2Pe 3:15.

God of judgment. *Isa 33:5; *Isa 42:1, 2, 3, 4; Isa 45:21; **Isa 55:8, +**Gen 18:25 note. +*Deut 32:4, *1Sa 2:3, *Job 35:14, +Psa 7:8; Psa 37:28; Psa 92:15; +*Psa 94:2; *Psa 99:4; Psa 103:6, +*Jer 10:24; +*Jer 10:25, **Mic 7:18, 19, 20, *Zep 3:5, *Mal 2:17, *Joh 5:30, *Rom 2:2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, *Eph 1:8.

blessed. Heb. ’esher (S# H835, Deut 33:29). FS43, +Deut 28:3, +Isa 26:3; Isa 32:20; Isa 56:2, +*Deut 33:29, *Psa 2:12; *Psa 28:6; *Psa 28:7; *Psa 34:8; *Psa 84:12, *Pro 16:20, *Jer 17:7.

wait for him. *Isa 8:17; Isa 25:9; *Isa 26:7; *Isa 26:8; Isa 28:16; Isa 33:2; *Isa 40:31, Gen 49:18, +Psa 25:3; +Psa 25:5; *Psa 27:14; *Psa 37:7; *+*Psa 37:34; *Psa 40:1, 2, 3; *Psa 62:1; *Psa 62:2; *Psa 62:5, 6, 7, 8; *Psa 130:5; *Psa 130:6, Jer 14:22, *Lam 3:25; *Lam 3:26, Hos 12:6, *Mic 7:7, 8, 9, Hab 2:3, Zep 3:8, +*Mat 5:3, *Luk 2:25, Act 1:4, *Rom 8:25, 26, 27, 28, *Jas 5:7; *Jas 5:11.

 

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Daily Bible Nugget #683, Isaiah 40:31

The Nugget:

Isa 40:31  But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

My Comment:

The Bible explains itself. Scripture interprets Scripture. The meaning and message of this wonderful Bible promise is enriched and amplified when you compare Scripture with Scripture by consulting the cross references for this verse:

from The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:

Isaiah 40:31

they that: Isa 8:17, Isa 25:9, Isa 30:18; Psa 25:3, Psa 25:5, Psa 25:21, Psa 27:14, Psa 37:34, Psa 40:1, Psa 84:7, Psa 92:1, Psa 92:13; Psa 123:2; Lam 3:25-26; Rom 8:25; 1Th 1:10

renew: Heb. change, Jdg 16:28; Job 17:9, Job 33:24-26; Psa 103:5, Psa 138:3; 2Co 1:8-10; 2Co 4:8-10, 2Co 4:16, 2Co 12:9-10

mount: Exo 19:4; Psa 84:7; Song 8:5; Zec 10:12; Rev 4:7

not faint: Psa 27:13; Luk 18:1; 2Co 4:1, 2Co 4:16; Gal 6:9; Heb 12:1; Rev 2:3

 

from The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:

Isaiah 40:31

they that wait. Isa 8:17; Isa 25:9; +✓Isa 30:18; Psa 25:3; Psa 25:5; Psa 25:21; *Psa 27:14; Psa 37:34; *Psa 40:1; Psa 84:7; Psa 92:1; Psa 92:13; *Psa 123:2; *Lam 3:25; Lam 3:26; Rom 8:25; 1Th 1:10

renew. Heb. change. Jdg 16:28; Job 17:9; Job 33:24-26; Psa 103:5; Psa 138:3; 2Co 1:8-10; *2Co 4:8-10; 2Co 4:16; ✓2Co 12:9; 2Co 12:10

strength. Psa 18:1; Psa 18:2; Psa 68:35

mount up. Exo 19:4; Psa 84:7; Song 8:5; Zec 10:12; 2Co 11:5; 2Co 12:11; Rev 4:7

as eagles. ◐Exo 19:4; Deut 32:11; Deut 32:12; Psa 103:5; ◐+*Mat 24:28; ◐+*Luk 17:37

run. Eph 3:8

walk. ƒ45. Catabasis; or, Gradual Descent B432. The figure Catabasis here illustrates the effect of growth in grace. At first the believer flies; but as his experience increases, he runs; and at the end of his course he walks; Like Paul, who first said “I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles” (2Co 11:5; 2Co 12:11). Later he writes, I “am less than the least of all saints” (Eph 3:8); while at the end of his life he says, “I am the chief of sinners !” (1 1Ti 1:15). For other instances of this figure see Jer 9:1; Lam 4:1; Lam 4:2; Eze 22:18; Dan 2:38; Dan 2:39; Amos 9:2; Amos 9:3; Php 2:6-8

not faint. *Psa 27:13; Luk 18:1; 2Co 4:1; 2Co 4:16; ✓Gal 6:9; Heb 12:1; Rev 2:3

 

from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Isaiah 40:31

they that wait. Isa 8:17; Isa 25:9; +**Isa 30:18, Neh 12:44, +Psa 25:3; +Psa 25:5; +Psa 25:21; *Psa 27:14; Psa 33:20; Psa 37:34; *Psa 40:1; Psa 62:1; Psa 84:7; Psa 92:1; Psa 92:13; *Psa 123:2, Pro 20:22, *Lam 3:25; *Lam 3:26, Hos 12:6, Zec 11:11, Rom 8:25, 1Th 1:10.

renew. Heb. change. Lev 27:10, Jdg 16:28, Job 17:9; Job 29:20; Job 33:24, 25, 26, Psa 103:5; Psa 138:3, 2Co 1:8, 9, 10; *2Co 4:8, 9, 10; *2Co 4:16; **2Co 12:9; **2Co 12:10.

strength. Deut 11:8, Psa 8:2; +Psa 18:1; +Psa 18:2; Psa 29:11; Psa 43:2; Psa 59:9; Psa 68:28; Psa 68:35; Psa 71:16; Psa 119:28, Pro 10:29; Pro 24:5, Eph 6:10.

mount up. Exo 19:4, Job 39:27, Psa 84:7, Song 8:5, Zec 10:12, 2Co 11:5; 2Co 12:11, Rev 4:7; Rev 11:12; Rev 12:14.

as eagles. %Exo 19:4, Deut 32:11, 12, Psa 103:5, Pro 30:19, Eze 1:10, %+*Mat 24:28, %+*Luk 17:37, Rev 12:14.

run. +*Psa 119:32, Eph 3:8.

not be weary. Pro 3:11, 2Th 3:13, Heb 12:3.

walk. FS45, Catabasis; or, Gradual Descent F/S 432, The figure Catabasis here illustrates the effect of growth in grace. At first the believer flies; but as his experience increases, he runs, and at the end of his course he walks. Like Paul, who first said “I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles” (2Co 11:5; 2Co 12:11). Later he writes, I “am less than the least of all saints” (Eph 3:8); while at the end of his life he says, I am the chief of sinners! (1Ti 1:15). For other instances of this figure see Jer 9:1, Lam 4:1, 2, Eze 22:18, Dan 2:38, 39; Dan 3:4, Amos 9:2, 3, Rom 5:6 note. Php 2:6, 7, 8.

not faint. Gen 25:29, *Psa 27:13, Mar 8:3, Luk 18:1, 2Co 4:1; 2Co 4:16, **Gal 6:9, Eph 3:13, *Heb 12:1, Rev 2:3.

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Daily Bible Nugget #682, Romans 3:7

The Nugget:

Romans 3:7. Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” (NIV, New International Version)

My Comment:

A Muslim poster on the “Christianity and Islam Friendly Debate” Facebook site prefaced his remarks about the Apostle Paul by citing Romans 3:7. The Muslim asserted “Paul admits himself to be a liar. Undeniable proof from the Bible. Paul the False Apostle.”

A careful reader would notice the first three words: “Someone might argue.” Clearly, Paul is not arguing this himself! Paul is actually quoting arguments others (the Judaizers) urged against Paul. Just read the next verse:

Rom 3:8  And why not say, “Let us do evil so that good may come of it”? — as some who slander us allege that we say. (Their  condemnation is deserved!) (NET Bible)

The Muslim Challenge:

It is a common misconception amongst Christians that Paul and the Apostles of Christ were unanimous in their preaching of a crucified Jesus. Christians think that the apostles and Paul were preaching the same doctrine and everyone believed in the divine Jesus who came to be crucified for the sins of the world. However, if one examines the bible carefully, that person would observe that Paul and the disciples were not preaching the same doctrine and did not believe in the same Jesus.

The Apostles in Jerusalem heard that Paul has been preaching a different doctrine in Galatia and Corinthia. Paul was telling them not to follow the law anymore and that they don’t have to eat kosher meat anymore or to be circumcised (according to Genesis 17:14, the covenant is broken if there is no circumcision) etc. So the Apostles went to Galatia and Corinthia and convinced everyone that Paul is wrong, when Paul heard about this he went straight back to the cities…

 

Conclusion

So it is clear from the Bible it self that not everyone believed in the Jesus who came to get crucified for the sins of the world and to replace the law. That there were different amongst the Apostles and Paul. The Apostles stuck to the true teachings of Jesus, which was upholding the law and that the Apostles who lived with Jesus know him better than Paul who never even saw Jesus except in a “vision”. The only deceiver here was Paul and not Allah.

My response:

It is always helpful to read the Bible with great care, accuracy, and understanding.

When you say:

“It says different Gospel, so obviously the disciples were teaching them a different doctrine and it was not just minor issues.”

You reveal you have not read the New Testament accounts accurately.

The record in the New Testament shows that Paul received the “right hand of fellowship” from the Apostolic leaders of the Jerusalem church:

Gal 2:9  And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. 

Peter, James, and John would hardly have extended the right hand of fellowship to Paul (and Barnabas) if Paul was not preaching the true Gospel of Christ.

Those Paul was opposing, who came to Galatia with a false Gospel, were not legitimate, authorized teachers from the Jerusalem church. They were “Judaizers,” teachers who attempted to persuade new Christians that they must fulfill the requirements of the law of Moses in order to be saved.

James and the leaders of the Jerusalem church affirmed the legitimacy of Paul’s Gospel, and explicitly declared that the Judaizers had not been sent by them:

Acts 15:1  And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 
Acts 15:2  When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. 

Act 15:4  And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them. 
Act 15:5  But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses. 

Act 15:6  And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter. 
Act 15:7  And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. 
Act 15:8  And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; 
Act 15:9  And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. 
Act 15:10  Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 
Act 15:11  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they. 

Act 15:22  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 
Act 15:23  And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 
Act 15:24  Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: 
Act 15:25  It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 
Act 15:26  Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 
Act 15:27  We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 
Act 15:28  For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 
Act 15:29  That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 

This is the record as it is given in the New Testament–a far cry from what was presented above in the opening post.

 

 

 

 

 

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