Daily Bible Nugget #838, John 8:56

 

3-31-24 Daily Bible Nugget 838 John 8v56

The Nugget:

John 8:56  Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

The Challenge Answered:

Abe San You make the claim or statement above:

“Abraham saw Jesus according to your NT? Is there any passage in the OT confirming this fantastic claim of Jesus? None.
How can we then trust that claim?”

Since it is our Lord Jesus Christ who made the claim, to dispute the claim is to call the Lord Jesus Christ a liar.

I suggest you go back and think about how far off you must be in your thinking to ever state or write a claim like that.

I have meticulously studied every verse in the Bible and its cross references. My judgment is that the claim Jesus made is absolutely correct and is confirmed by the passages in the Old Testament or the Hebrew Scriptures to which He refers.

Jesus identified the problem and reason for the unbelief of the Jewish leaders of His day. Jesus told them that had they believed Moses, they would have believed Him, because Moses wrote of Jesus (John 5:46).

John 5:46  For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

Jesus also stated that they failed to search the Scriptures, stating that the Scriptures testified of Him (John 5:39).

John 5:39  Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

The way to find the Biblical answer which demonstrates the truth of the claim Jesus made in John 8:56 is to do a proper search of the Scriptures yourself.

To make the task easier for everyone, I have spent well over five decades collecting cross references from scholarly sources and placing them all in my published Bible study resources, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge and the greatly extended and more complete digital resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. I share these cross references on my Real Bible Study site. The site has a search feature. Place the verse reference “John 8:56” in the search box to see if I have posted the cross references for that verse. If I have not done so yet, leave a comment requesting that I post those references and I will do so.

My Comment:

I have followed my own advice today (Friday, April 12, 2024) and searched this site for John 8:56. It turns out I have not written about John 8:56 here before.

To Dig Deeper, Study the Cross References from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury for John 8:56 as I have shared them below:

John 8:56
father. FS171G, +Gen 13:8, Rom 4:1.

Abraham. Joh 8:33; Joh 8:39, 40; Joh 8:53, Mal 2:10, Act 7:2.

rejoiced. or, leaped for joy. Gr. agalliaō (S# G21). Joh 5:35, Gen 15:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; Gen 17:17; Gen 17:19; *Gen 22:13; *Gen 22:14; *Gen 22:18, Mat 13:17, Luk 2:28, 29, 30; Luk 10:24, Rom 4:18, 19, 20, 21, 22, *Gal 3:7, 8, 9; *Gal 3:14, 14, 16, 17, 18, Heb 11:13; Heb 11:39, 40, 1Pe 1:10, 11, 12.

to see. Joh 6:40, Mat 23:39, Luk 17:22, Heb 12:2; Heb 13:8.

my day. *Gen 18:14, Mat 13:17, *1Co 2:8.

he saw. Joh 1:3, **Gen 17:1, +**Gen 18:1, +*Exo 6:3, Act 7:38, +*Rev 1:8; Rev 15:3.

and was glad. or, rejoiced. Gr. chairō. Joh 3:29.

Note that for the key words “he saw” I added the new reference to +**Gen 18:1. At that reference in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury I have given more cross references which demonstrate that Abraham saw and talked with Jesus in His pre-incarnate form. The point is that no man has ever seen God (John 1:18. John 4:24). In the Old Testament when individuals are reported as seeing God, they are actually seeing our Lord Jesus Christ who appeared to them as God, as Jehovah, and as the Angel of the Lord.

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Daily Bible Nugget #837, Ephesians 1:13

 

The Nugget:

Eph 1:13  In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (KJV)

Eph 1:12 that we who had first put our hope in Christ might praise His glory.
Eph 1:13 You too, as you have heard the message of the truth, the good news that means your salvation, and as you have trusted in Him too, have been stamped with the seal of the promised Holy Spirit,
Eph 1:14 who is the first installment of our inheritance, so that we may finally come into full possession of the prize of redemption, and praise His glory for it. (Williams NT)

Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, (ESV)

Eph 1:13 Christ also brought you the truth, which is the good news about how you can be saved. You put your faith in Christ and were given the promised Holy Spirit to show that you belong to God. (CEV)

My Comment:

I made the following response this Easter morning to a comment by a devout and sincere Roman Catholic who wrote of the contrasting views about salvation held by the Roman Catholic Church as compared to those of Protestants. My comment is intended to show there is a great contrast between Roman Catholicism’s view of salvation and how to receive it compared to what the Bible itself teaches:

There are things in your comment that are held to be true by the Roman Catholic Church but are not found in the Bible and are not in accord with what is found in the Bible.

First, the notion of “penance” is not taught in the Bible but is the result of a historic mistranslation of the underlying inspired Greek New Testament text of a word which should be rendered “repent.” Modern English Bible translations have corrected this error.

Second, the notion that grace is dispensed by the Roman Catholic Church by means of its Sacraments is a concept not taught in Scripture, but an error sometimes given the label “sacerdotalism.”

Third, the notion that ritual water baptism has any saving grace whatsoever is foreign to Scripture. It may be the result of a mistaken interpretation of John 3:5.

Nevertheless, I am most thankful that the Roman Catholic Church has maintained and does affirm and teach the Deity of Christ and the Doctrine of the Trinity, both of which most certainly are taught in the Bible.

Dig Deeper by Studying the Cross References given in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury for Ephesians 1:13,

Ephesians 1:13
ye also. **Eph 2:1; **Eph 2:11; **Eph 2:12, *Col 1:21, 22, 23, +*1Pe 2:10.

trusted. Eph 1:12, 2Ch 16:7, Psa 86:2; Psa 125:1, Pro 16:20, Song 8:5, Dan 3:28, Zep 3:12, Mat 12:21, Rom 15:12, Php 2:19.

after that ye heard. Eph 4:21, **+Joh 1:17, *Act 15:7; **Act 16:31; **Act 16:32, Rom 6:17; **Rom 10:14, 15, 16, 17, *Col 1:4, 5, 6; *Col 1:23, **1Th 2:13.

the word of truth. *Psa 119:43, Joh 17:17, *2Co 6:7, Gal 2:5, Col 1:5, **2Ti 2:15, *Jas 1:18, *1Pe 1:23.

the gospel. *Mar 16:15; *Mar 16:16, Act 13:38, 39; Act 15:7, +*Rom 1:16, 1Co 2:2; *1Co 15:1, 2, 3, 4, Php 1:27, +**2Ti 3:15, *Tit 2:11, **Heb 2:3, +*Jas 1:21.

of your salvation. Act 13:26.

in whom. Joh 5:23.

after that ye believed. Joh 5:24; Joh 7:39, Gal 3:2, *2Ti 1:12, 1Pe 1:8.

ye were sealed. +*Eph 4:30, Exo 28:11, Lev 14:14; Lev 14:17, *Est 8:8,
Song 4:12, Jer 32:10, +*Eze 9:4, Mat 27:66, Luk 15:22, +Joh 3:33; +*Joh 6:27, *Rom 4:11, *2Co 1:22, **2Ti 2:19, Rev 7:2, 3.

holy. +*Joel 2:28, *Luk 11:13; *Luk 24:49, *Joh 14:16; *Joh 14:17; *Joh 14:26; *Joh 15:26; Joh 16:7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, *Act 1:4; Act 2:16, 17,  18, 19, 20, 21, 22; Act 2:33; Act 9:31, Rom 5:5, Gal 3:14.

Spirit. FS121A1, +Luk 1:17 note. Rom 8:9; Rom 8:15, 16, 2Co 5:5, Gal 4:6, Php 2:1.

of promise. Eze 36:27; *Eze 37:14, *+Luk 24:49, Joh 4:14; Joh 14:16, 17; Joh 16:13, Act 1:4, Gal 3:2; Gal 3:14.

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Daily Bible Nugget #836, Isaiah 53:7

 

The Nugget:

Isa 53:7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. (KJV)

Isa 53:7  “He was treated harshly, but endured it humbly; he never said a word. Like a lamb about to be slaughtered, like a sheep about to be sheared, he never said a word.  (GNB, Good News Bible)

Isa 53:7  He was abused and punished, but he didn’t open his mouth. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. He was like a sheep that is silent when its wool is cut off. He didn’t open his mouth. (GW, God’s Word translation)

Isa 53:7 He was painfully abused, but he did not complain. He was silent like a lamb being led to the butcher, as quiet as a sheep having its wool cut off. (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

My Comment:

3-29-24 Isaian 53v7 UCRT full text references

 

Here is Isaiah 53:7 with its associated cross references as I have given them in my digital resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Isa 53:7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

He was oppressed. or, hard pressed. Mar 9:12, Act 26:23.

Mark 9:12
12  And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
King James Version

Acts 26:23
23  That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
King James Version

he was afflicted. Isa 53:4.

Isaiah 53:4
4  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
King James Version

yet. Psa 38:13, +Mat 11:29; Mat 12:19; *Mat 26:63; *Mat 27:12, 13, 14, *Mar 14:61; *Mar 15:5, *Luk 23:9, *Joh 19:9, *1Pe 2:23.

Psalms 38:13
13  But I, as a deaf man, heard not; and I was as a dumb man that openeth not his mouth.
King James Version

Matthew 11:29
29  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
King James Version

Matthew 12:19
19  He shall not strive, nor cry; neither shall any man hear his voice in the streets.
King James Version

Matthew 26:63
63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
King James Version

Matthew 27:12-14
12  And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
13  Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
14  And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
King James Version

Mark 14:61
61  But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?
King James Version

Mark 15:5
5  But Jesus yet answered nothing; so that Pilate marvelled.
King James Version

Luke 23:9
9  Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.
King James Version

John 19:9
9  And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer.
King James Version

1 Peter 2:23
23  Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
King James Version

Here are more of the cross references I have given in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury for Isaiah 53:7,

Isa 53:7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

opened not his mouth. FS108H6B, +Psa 38:13, Idiom for silence and submission. Psa 39:2, 1Pe 2:22, 23.

Psalms 39:2
2  I was dumb with silence, I held my peace, even from good; and my sorrow was stirred.
King James Version

1 Peter 2:22-23
22  Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
23  Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
King James Version

he is brought. T1940 (Messiah to be led as a lamb to the slaughter). “The Savior was neither ’driven’ nor ’dragged,’ but led: thereby the Holy Spirit informs us, once more, of His willing submission” (Pink, Comm. on John, vol. 3, p. 176). %Gen 3:24, =Lev 17:5, Jer 31:18, Mat 27:30, 31, Mar 14:53, Joh 10:17; $Joh 18:13, *>Act 8:32; *>Act 8:33, *1Co 5:7.

Genesis 3:24
24  So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
King James Version

Leviticus 17:5
5  To the end that the children of Israel may bring their sacrifices, which they offer in the open field, even that they may bring them unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest, and offer them for peace offerings unto the LORD.
King James Version

Jeremiah 31:18
18  I have surely heard Ephraim bemoaning himself thus; Thou hast chastised me, and I was chastised, as a bullock unaccustomed to the yoke: turn thou me, and I shall be turned; for thou art the LORD my God.
King James Version

Matthew 27:30-31
30  And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
31  And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.
King James Version

Mark 14:53
53  And they led Jesus away to the high priest: and with him were assembled all the chief priests and the elders and the scribes.
King James Version

John 10:17
17  Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
King James Version

John 18:13
13  And led him away to Annas first; for he was father in law to Caiaphas, which was the high priest that same year.
King James Version

Acts 8:32
32  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
King James Version

Acts 8:33
33  In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
King James Version

1 Corinthians 5:7
7  Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
King James Version

as a lamb. T1909 (The innocence and meekness of the Messiah). Exo 12:5; Exo 12:13, Lev 1:10; Lev 4:32, Jer 11:19, Joh 1:29; Joh 1:36, $Act 8:32, 33, 34, 35, 1Pe 1:19, Rev 5:6; Rev 13:8.

Exodus 12:5
5  Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
King James Version

Exodus 12:13
13  And the blood shall be to you for a token upon the houses where ye are: and when I see the blood, I will pass over you, and the plague shall not be upon you to destroy you, when I smite the land of Egypt.
King James Version

Leviticus 1:10
10  And if his offering be of the flocks, namely, of the sheep, or of the goats, for a burnt sacrifice; he shall bring it a male without blemish.
King James Version

Leviticus 4:32
32  And if he bring a lamb for a sin offering, he shall bring it a female without blemish.
King James Version

Jeremiah 11:19
19  But I was like a lamb or an ox that is brought to the slaughter; and I knew not that they had devised devices against me, saying, Let us destroy the tree with the fruit thereof, and let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name may be no more remembered.
King James Version

John 1:29
29  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
King James Version

John 1:36
36  And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
King James Version

Acts 8:32-35
32  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
33  In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
34  And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
35  Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
King James Version

1 Peter 1:19
19  But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
King James Version

Revelation 5:6
6  And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
King James Version

Revelation 13:8
8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
King James Version

Here is Isaiah 53:7 with the rest of its associated cross references as I have given them in my digital resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Isa 53:7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

to the slaughter. +Gen 43:16, Mat 17:23, Mar 12:7, Rom 8:36.

Genesis 43:16
16  And when Joseph saw Benjamin with them, he said to the ruler of his house, Bring these men home, and slay, and make ready; for these men shall dine with me at noon.
King James Version

Matthew 17:23
23  And they shall kill him, and the third day he shall be raised again. And they were exceeding sorry.
King James Version

Mark 12:7
7  But those husbandmen said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and the inheritance shall be ours.
King James Version

Romans 8:36
36  As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
King James Version

sheep. =Lev 1:10.

Leviticus 1:10
10  And if his offering be of the flocks, namely, of the sheep, or of the goats, for a burnt sacrifice; he shall bring it a male without blemish.
King James Version

before her shearers. +Gen 31:19, Act 8:32.

Genesis 31:19
19  And Laban went to shear his sheep: and Rachel had stolen the images that were her father’s.
King James Version

Acts 8:32
32  The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:
King James Version

is dumb. T1941 (Messiah to be dumb, that is, silent before his accusers). $Mat 27:12, 13, 14, Mar 15:3, $1Pe 2:23.

Matthew 27:12-14
12  And when he was accused of the chief priests and elders, he answered nothing.
13  Then said Pilate unto him, Hearest thou not how many things they witness against thee?
14  And he answered him to never a word; insomuch that the governor marvelled greatly.
King James Version

Mark 15:3
3  And the chief priests accused him of many things: but he answered nothing.
King James Version

1 Peter 2:23
23  Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
King James Version

opened not. Jas 5:6.

James 5:6
6  Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
King James Version

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On what day of the week was Jesus crucified?

 

The Text:

Luke 24:21  But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

The Question:

Which day–Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday–is the day of Christ’s crucifixion and death?

The Answer:

Thursday is the option that best meets the evidence in the New Testament record.

See the 1942 book by Roy M. Allen, Three Days in the Grave, for a full and accurate discussion of what is involved.

A key point of evidence is found in the statement of the two disciples on the Emmaus Road as given in Luke 24:21,

Luk 24:21  But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

If Sunday is the Third Day Since these things were done, then:

Saturday is the second day since these things were done;

Friday is the first day since these things were done.

Therefore,

Thursday is the day “these things were done.”

Take note of Mark 8:31,

Mar 8:31  And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

A Friday crucifixion would violate four Scripture passages:

Mat 12:40  For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Mat 27:63  Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again.

Mar 8:31  And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.

Luk 24:21  But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

Roy Allen has definitively resolved any chronological issues you might think arise from a Thursday crucifixion in his book, Three Days in the Grave, New York: Loizeaux Brothers, 1942, 159 pages + fold-out chronological chart. 2000 copies printed.

I have shared his findings at length on my site.

Passion Week Chronology in Detail

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The Key to Messianic Prophecy

 

The Text:

1Pe 1:11  Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. (KJV)

My Comment:

Our Lord Jesus Christ revealed the key to understanding Messianic Bible Prophecies to the two disciples who were returning home after a sad and disappointing day in Jerusalem when He told them:

Luk 24:25  Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Luk 24:26  Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?

Peter learned this truth from the Savior and repeats it in his first letter:

1Pe 1:11  Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

I wish we had a full written transcript of exactly what Jesus taught the two disciples that day on the Emmaus Road!

Some members of one supposedly very ancient Church challenged me on the Internet that only their church was the One True Church because only their Church possessed the Unwritten Traditions from the very time of Christ and His Apostles.

So, I challenged them and requested them to furnish an Internet link to the content of the teaching Jesus gave those two disciples on the Emmaus Road, teaching Jesus repeated to His Apostles as a group later that day:

Luk 24:44  And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Luk 24:45  Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
Luk 24:46  And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luk 24:47  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
Luk 24:48  And ye are witnesses of these things.

No one was able to furnish a full written transcript of what Jesus carefully taught the two disciples on the Road to Emmaus or what He taught again that evening to the assembled group of disciples. That Church seems to claim that it is in possession of the unwritten Traditions the rest of us don’t have, but in this case, given how important this information is–which they all heard–that Church can produce no trace. The claimed treasury of Tradition simply does not exist for this information. It reminds me of the words of the nursery rhyme, “Nothing in it, nothing in it, but the binding around it”! If that Church really does have it, show me the written Transcript!

The Security Office at one of the Detroit high schools where I taught had this significant sign on the door: “If it is not written, it did not happen.

Fortunately, the clue given by Jesus to the two disciples on the Emmaus Road at Luke 24:26, a clue repeated by Peter in his first letter at 1 Peter 1:11, enables us like forensic detectives to study the associated cross references given in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge and The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury to reconstruct a good part of the message Jesus must have given on that Resurrection Day.

Dig Deeper by reading the Cross References for 1 Peter 1:11 as given in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

1 Peter 1:11
Searching. Gr. ereunaō (S# G2045, Joh 5:39). 1Pe 1:10, Pro 15:14, *Dan 8:15, Mat 13:17, Luk 10:24.

what manner of time. **Dan 9:2; **Dan 9:24, 25, 26; Dan 12:5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, Hab 2:1, 2, 3, 4, Gal 4:4, Php 4:5, Heb 9:9.

the Spirit. Gr. pneuma, +Mat 3:16. 1Pe 3:18, 19, Zec 7:12, Mar 12:36, Joh 14:17; Joh 16:7, Act 1:16; +Act 16:7, Rom 1:4; +*Rom 8:9, 1Co 10:4, *2Co 3:17; *2Co 3:18, *Gal 4:6, Php 1:19, Col 3:16, 1Ti 3:16, *Heb 9:14; Heb 10:15, *2Pe 1:21, Rev 3:1; *Rev 19:10.

of Christ. 1Pe 1:20, +*Joh 12:41, *1Co 10:4; *1Co 10:9, 2Co 3:17, 18, *Col 1:15, 16, 17.

which was in them. or, with them. Other translations handle as in, within, but this is not correct. Though God was with His people under the old economy, the Spirit of God did not indwell anyone until Pentecost (cf. Joh 14:17, 18 and notes) [LNT, fn e]. *Neh 9:30, Act 10:17.

did signify. or, point. Gr. dēloō (S# G1213, 1Co 1:11). Dan 12:8, 1Co 3:13, 2Pe 1:14.

when it testified beforehand. Gr. promarturomai (S# G4303, only here), to be a witness in advance, that is, predict (Strong). Psa 40:7; Psa 110:7, +Mat 26:24, +**Joh 5:39, Act 2:31; Act 7:52; Act 8:35, 1Co 15:4, Gal 3:17; Gal 3:23, Heb 2:6.

the sufferings. Gr. pathēma (S# G3804, Rom 7:5). 1Pe 2:21; 1Pe 3:18, 19, 20, 21, 22; 1Pe 4:1; 1Pe 4:13; 1Pe 5:1, *Psa 22:1-21; *Psa 69:1-21, Psalms 88:1, 2, 3, 4. *Isa 52:13; *Isa 52:14; *Isa 53:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, *Dan 9:24, 25, 26, *Zec 13:7, Mat 16:21; Mat 26:24, Luk 9:22; Luk 9:31; Luk 22:22; +*Luk 24:25, 26, 27; +*Luk 24:44, Act 2:23; +Act 3:18; *Act 17:3; Act 26:22, 23, +*1Co 15:3; +*1Co 15:4, 2Co 1:5, Heb 2:10; Heb 11:26; Heb 12:2.

the glory. or, glories. A common objection among the Jewish people who do not believe Jesus Christ is their Messiah is that there are many prophecies Jesus did not fulfill when He came. Peter here, and Jesus (Luk 24:26) furnish an absolute answer to that objection:

(1) the prophecies Jesus did fulfill pertain to “His sufferings.”

(2) the prophecies Jesus did not fulfill are reserved for the future when He comes in His full glory (Psa 102:16, Zec 14:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Mat 24:30, 31).

Several prophecies are recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures, our Old Testament, that present exactly this order even within a single chapter, as seen in these cross references to specific chapters in the Bible that present this order:

Psa 22:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, the sufferings; Psa 22:22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, the glory.

Psa 69:1-21, the sufferings; Psa 69:30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, the glory.

Isa 53:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, the sufferings; Isa 53:11, 12, the glory.

Those who disbelieve in the Messiahship of Jesus Christ do so in the face of the evidence: just how can we account for the many prophecies (T1874 to T1976) Christ did fulfill at His First Advent? These things really did happen. The argument from Historicity is unanswerable and irrefutable (2Pe 1:16 note).

In terms of the provisions of the Abrahamic (+Gen 12:2 note) and the Davidic Covenants (+2Sa 7:10 note), you cannot have a Messiah who fulfills one aspect (the glory) without the other aspect (the sufferings) being fulfilled first. It takes both aspects to fulfill the predictions presented in the Messianic Prophecies of the Hebrew Scriptures. 1Pe 1:3; 1Pe 1:7; 1Pe 1:13; 1Pe 1:21, 1Pe 3:21, 22; 1Pe 4:5; 1Pe 4:13, +*Gen 3:15; Gen 45:13; +*Gen 49:10, *Psa 22:22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31; Psa 45:3, 4, 5, 6, 7; *Psa 69:30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36; *Psa 72:17, 18, 19; +*Psa 102:16; *Psa 110:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6; *Psa 145:11, +*Isa 9:6; +*Isa 9:7; *Isa 11:10 mg. *Isa 49:6; *Isa 53:11; *Isa 53:12; Isa 55:5; Isa 60:1, 2, 3; Isa 60:9; Isa 60:13; Isa 60:19, *Dan 2:34; Dan 2:35; Dan 2:44; +*Dan 7:13; Dan 7:14, **Zec 2:8, 9, 10, 11, 12; +**Zec 6:13; +*Zec 14:9, Mat 6:13, *Mar 10:37, Luk 19:38; *Luk 23:42; +**Luk 24:26, **+Joh 12:41, *Act 26:22; Act 26:23, 1Co 2:7, +*1Th 2:12, 1Ti 1:11, Rev 19:7.

that should follow. or, after these things. Rev 22:6.

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Daily Bible Nugget #835, 1 Thessalonians 4:15

 

The Nugget:

1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (KJV)

1Th 4:15 For this we declare to you by a word from the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. (ESV)

The Muslim Challenge:

Paul made a false prophecy about the coming of Jesus during his lifetime

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

My Answer:

For those who know how to read, are willing to read, and who actually do read with care, I post the following refutation of the Opening Post. I take this information from my digital Bible study resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, the note on “that we” in 1 Thessalonians 4:15,

1Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

that we. FS39, Acts 17:27. Some have mistakenly drawn the inference that Paul here asserts he expected the return of Jesus in his own lifetime. This, of course, is an unwarranted inference which fails to take into account Paul’s own inspired prediction regarding the great apostasy and the coming of Antichrist given in 2 Thessalonians 2, events which Paul certainly did not suppose were to be compressed into his own lifespan. The fact that Christ revealed to Peter certain events which would transpire in his life (Joh 21:18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23), as well as to Paul (Acts 9:15; Act 20:23, 24; Act 27:24), must not be understood to deny the doctrine of the imminency of the return of Christ. Robertson notes Paul “was alive, not dead, when he wrote” (Word Pictures, vol. 4, p. 32). Paul sometimes associates himself with the living (as here, and Php 3:20, Tit 2:12, 13), and sometimes with the dead, (as **1Co 6:14, **2Co 4:14; 2Co 5:8, Php 1:21, 22, 23, 24; Php 2:17, 2Ti 4:6, 7, 8). By such words Paul simply associates himself with the class of the living to which he then belonged, as opposed to the dead, and was not making a statement about how soon Jesus would return, a secret which God has kept in his own counsel (+*Deut 29:29, Mat 24:36, +*Mark 13:32, +*Acts 1:7), as Hogg and Vine well observe (Comm. on 1 Thessalonians, p. 138). 1Th 4:17, 1Th 5:10, Psa 66:6, Hos 12:4, Mat 16:28 note. Mar 9:1, Luk 9:27, Rom 13:11; Rom 13:13, +1Co 6:14; 1Co 15:51, Php 3:20, Tit 2:12, 13.

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Messianic Prophecies in Isaiah 53

 

My Response to a Facebook Post that denied any Messianic Prophecy is found in Isaiah 53:

When you include a statement like this in your Opening Post you greatly diminish any claim you might make or have to knowing something about its subject:

“…you may start to assume that Isaiah is speaking of a singular person in his verses and make the mistake to think that this could be some ridiculous prophecy of Jesus like the sons of Satan i.e. the Greco-Roman Church has instilled in us since they stole all of the Hebrew manuscripts, and re-wrote them in their own pagan Greek languages.”

Thanks to the providential preservation of an entire scroll of the book of Isaiah found among the Dead Sea Scrolls, we have in that scroll a copy of the Hebrew text of that book which pre-dates all other extant Hebrew scrolls/manuscripts by a thousand years.

That ancient Hebrew scroll has only a very few minor differences from the Hebrew text printed in Hebrew Bibles today. This demonstrates the extreme care and accuracy of the intervening copyists who for all those years and more (until the days of the movable type printing press) preserved for us what the original text contained.

The same care was given in the careful copying and preservation of the New Testament manuscripts.

As for your diatribe against the Messianic Prophecy interpretation of Isaiah 53, you are entirely mistaken. There are ancient Jewish interpreters of this passage who regarded it as predictive prophecy of a coming Messiah.

For those who wish to honestly search the Scriptures for themselves, I share below just a portion of my list of the Messianic Prophecies from the Topic Number Index in my book, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, “Messianic Prophecy,” topic numbers 1874–1976, on pages 1504-1505 of the first printing (2023), pages 1604-1605 of the first edition (1992) that relate to Isaiah 53:

1895. Messiah to be a healer of many. Isaiah 53:5.

1897. Messiah to be known and to save by His knowledge. Isaiah 53:11.

1899. Messiah to confound His questioners. Isaiah 52:13.

1906. Messiah to be sinless. Isaiah 53:9.

1908. The innocence and meekness of the Messiah. Isaiah 53:7.

1910. Messiah to be without guile [deceit]. Isaiah 53:9.

1938. Messiah to be led as a lamb to the slaughter. Isaiah 53:7.

1939. Messiah to be dumb (silent) before His accusers. Isaiah 53:7.

1940. Messiah to be guiltless. Isaiah 53:9.

1941. Justice was to be denied the Messiah. Isaiah 53:8.

1942. Messiah to be rejected by His own people. Isaiah 53:3.

1945. Messiah to be smitten. Isaiah 53:4.

1948. Messiah to be wounded and bruised. Isaiah 53:5.

1952. Messiah to be crucified with thieves. Isaiah 53:12.

1973. Messiah to be cut off in the prime of life at the time specified. Isaiah 53:8.

1974. Messiah to be buried in a rich man’s tomb. Isaiah 53:9.

At each of those verses in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge I give the cross references to the other relevant Bible passages which shed further light on each verse.

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Daily Bible Nugget #834, Leviticus 18:5

 

The Nugget:

Lev 18:5  Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD.

My Comment:

It is interesting but tragic to see that non-Christians, unbelievers, think they understand the Bible more accurately than Bible believing, Bible studying Christians do.

Some of you are constantly attacking the message of the Apostle Paul.

You seem to be attacking what you do not understand.

Abe AU above cited Romans 10:9, 13, then claimed Paul “promised them of easy way of obtaining ticket to heaven simply by acknowledging Jesus as their saviour.”

Try reading more of the context in order to begin to get a more accurate understanding of what is being said:

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Rom 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Unbelievers here are unfortunately in a similar state to the position of the Jews in Paul’s day: “For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.”

Notice what Paul states next:

Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. (KJV)

Rom 10:5 For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. (ESV)

Paul is citing Leviticus 18:5,

Lev 18:5 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes, and my judgments: which if a man do, he shall live in them: I am the LORD. (KJV)

Lev 18:5 You shall therefore keep my statutes and my rules; if a person does them, he shall live by them: I am the LORD. (ESV)

A careful comparison of Scripture with Scripture, a most important method of Bible study, will lead to the fact that there is yet another way of salvation previously revealed by God to Abraham, the way of faith:

Gen 15:6  And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. (KJV)

Gen 15:6 And he believed the LORD, and he counted it to him as righteousness. (ESV)

In Scripture, therefore, the promise of eternal life (Leviticus 18:5, “shall live”) to those who perfectly keep God’s Law and so receive eternal life by works is set in contrast to those who receive eternal life by faith (Genesis 15:6 and Habakkuk 2:4).

No one (except the Lord Jesus Christ) has ever met the requirement of keeping the law perfectly so as to qualify to receive eternal life on the basis of works.

Proverbs 20:9  Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?

Ecclesiastes 7:20  For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Romans 3:23  For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

James 2:10  For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

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Daily Bible Nugget #833, Matthew 12:31

 

The Nugget:

Mat 12:31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. (KJV)

The Question:

Hello brother, I am sorry for disturbing you with my question Mark 3:29 ‘…. whoever blasphemies the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness….’ How does it look like to blasphemy the Holy Spirit?

The Answer:

Matthew 12:31 is a parallel passage to Mark 3:29.

Mar 3:29  But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Mar 3:30  Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

Mat 12:31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Mat 12:32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

The following notes and cross references from my digital Bible study resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, should provide the answer to your question:

Matthew 12:31
All manner of sin. *Isa 1:18; **Isa 55:7, Eze 33:11, Mar 3:28, 29, 30, Luk 24:47, **Joh 6:37, Act 13:38, 39, *1Ti 1:13, 14, 15, *Heb 6:4, 5, 6, etc. +*Heb 10:26; +*Heb 10:29, **1Jn 1:9; **1Jn 2:1; **1Jn 2:2.

and blasphemy. βλασφημια here first. Its meaning in reference to God is plain from the saying of the Pharisees (Mat 12:24), to which the term is here applied; (see the parallel place in Mar 3:28, 29, 30) and from Mat 26:65, Mar 2:7, Joh 10:33, Rev 13:5, 6, Compare βλασφημον, 1Ti 1:13, and 2Ti 3:2, and see Mat 4:3 note. It is always rendered “Blasphemy” except Eph 4:31, where “evil-speaking;” and 1Ti 6:4 and Jud 1:9, where “railing” (De Burgh). Note: Blasphemy, blasphemia, βλασφημια (S# G988) either from βλαπειν την φημην, blaptein tain phaman, to hurt or blast the reputation, or from βαλλειν ταις φημαις, ballein tais phamais, to smite with words, or reports, when applied to men denotes injurious speaking, or calumny, and when used in reference to God signifies speaking impiously of his nature, attributes, and works. Mat 15:19; Mat 26:65, Mar 2:7; Mar 3:28; *+Mar 7:22; Mar 14:64, Luk 5:21, Joh 10:33, Eph 4:31, Col 3:8, 1Ti 6:4, Jud 1:9, Rev 2:9; Rev 13:1; Rev 13:5, 6; Rev 17:3.

shall be forgiven. Isa 1:18, Mar 3:28, 29, 30, Luk 12:10, Col 2:13 note. 1Jn 1:7; 1Jn 1:9; 1Jn 2:1, 2.

but the blasphemy. What the Holy Spirit did to prove the divinity of Christ’s person and mission, the Pharisees turned into an argument to show that Christ was an impostor, and actuated by Satanic agency. Thus their sin consisted in the unreasonable and absurd rejection of the Son of God as the Saviour of men, in opposition to the plain and unanswerable testimony of the Holy Spirit. This sin against the Holy Spirit is a rejection of the truth as it is revealed in the Divine Word, especially of that truth as it respects Christ and His salvation—this in disregard of many favourable opportunities to know the truth as it is in Christ and His Word—with severe and bitter feelings of aversion and hatred, peculiarly provoked by any distinct reference to the Holy Spirit and His work in either the inspired Word, or the Divine Saviour whom it His office to honour (James Morgan, The Scripture Testimony to the Holy Spirit, pp. 144, 147). Lev 24:16, Mar 3:28, 29, 30, Luk 12:10; Luk 22:65, Joh 8:48; Joh 10:32, 33; Joh 10:36, *Act 5:3; Act 7:51, +*1Jn 5:16.

shall be. FS96C9, +Gen 2:10.

forgiven. +*Exo 34:7, Lev 6:7.

but the blasphemy against. +Lev 24:11; +Lev 24:16, Pro 19:1, Luk 11:18, Act 5:3; Act 7:51, *Heb 10:29, +1Jn 5:16.

Ghost. Gr. pneuma, +Mat 3:16.

shall not be forgiven. The sin against the Holy Ghost is unpardonable because of its own nature: it consists in the rejection of the way of salvation by Christ, in opposition to the fullest evidence, and the only evidence that shall ever be given (Heb 2:3). The sin against the Holy Spirit consists in continued impenitence and unbelief (**Heb 10:26, 27, 29). It is not an act, but a habit. It is the calm, determined, and persevering rejection of Jesus Christ, as the Saviour of men, in opposition to all the testimony of His word and Spirit. Consequently in its nature it is incapable of forgiveness. No one who is afraid of having committed this sin has done so; for its very nature is to have no fear on that account. It is committed and continued in delightedly and knowingly, where it is committed at all. Fear is incompatible with its nature. Yet we need to be on our guard against this sin, lest we be betrayed into it. The progress of sin is rapid and dangerous. We need to be watchful against both the sins of the life and the sins of the heart. Apostasy may be nearer to any of us than we imagine (Rom 11:20, +*Heb 3:12, 1Jn 3:24). Cherish a sense of dependence on both the teaching and support of the Spirit. Through Him cleave unto Christ and ye shall be safe (See Morgan, The Scripture Testimony to the Holy Spirit, pp. 148-151). Mat 12:32, Mat 21:37, 38; Mat 27:18, Mar 4:17, %Act 3:17; *Act 7:51, Rom 11:20, Heb 2:3; Heb 3:12; Heb 6:4, 5, 6; Heb 10:26, 27, 28, 29, 1Jn 3:24; 1Jn 5:16.

Matthew 12:32
whosoever. Mat 11:19; Mat 13:55, 56, 57; Mat 26:65, 66, 67, 68; Mat 27:39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, Luk 7:34; *Luk 12:10; Luk 22:65; *Luk 23:34, *Joh 7:12; *Joh 7:52; Joh 9:24, *Act 3:14; *Act 3:15; *Act 3:19; Act 26:9, 10, 11, 1Ti 1:13; 1Ti 1:15.

the Son of man. +Mat 8:20; Mat 16:13.

it shall be forgiven. Isa 33:24, Jer 50:20, Mar 3:28, Luk 23:34, *Act 8:18; *Act 8:19; *Act 8:22, *1Ti 1:12; *1Ti 1:13.

but whosoever. Num 15:30, Joh 7:39, **Heb 6:4, 5, 6; **Heb 10:26, 27, 28, 29, Jas 3:6, +*1Jn 5:16.

speaketh against. FS73, +Zec 1:5. That the Holy Spirit can be the subject of blasphemy (by attributing his miraculous works to Satan) proves him to be as much a person as the Son; and it proves him to be divine, because it shows that he may be sinned against, and so sinned against that the blasphemer shall not be forgiven. A person he must be, or he could not be blasphemed: a divine person he must be to constitute this blasphemy a sin against him in the proper sense, and of so malignant a kind as to place it beyond the reach of mercy (Watson, Theological Institutes, vol. i. p. 629, cited in McClintock and Strong, vol. iv. p. 309, article “Holy Ghost”). “These passages (Mat 12:31, 32, Mar 3:28, 29, Luk 12:10) at least imply beyond cavil the personality of the Holy Spirit, for sin and blasphemy can only be committed against persons” (T. Rees, International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, vol. 1, p. 486, article “Blasphemy”). %+Gen 1:2, +*Luk 3:22 note. Joh 14:26; Joh 16:13, 14, Act 8:29; Act 8:39; Act 13:2; Act 15:28; Act 16:7; Act 20:28; Act 28:25, Rom 8:27, 1Co 2:10, 11; 1Co 12:8; 1Co 12:11, Eph 4:30.

Holy Ghost. Gr. pneuma, +Mat 3:16. +Mat 3:16, Joh 7:39.

it shall not. FS175B, +Gen 21:16. God the Holy Spirit is immutable (+*Mat 28:19 note). +Mat 12:31, Job 36:13, Mar 3:29, +Luk 12:10; Luk 16:23, 24, 25, 26.

in this world. Gr. aion, +Mat 6:13, lit. “this age,” as in Mat 13:22, Mar 4:19; +Mar 10:30, Luk 1:70; +Luk 16:8; Luk 20:34, +**Joh 6:54 note. Joh 9:39, Rom 12:2, 1Co 1:20; 1Co 2:6; 1Co 2:8; 1Co 3:18, 2Co 4:4, Gal 1:4, Eph 1:21; Eph 2:2; Eph 6:12, 1Ti 6:17, 2Ti 4:10, Tit 2:12.

the world to come. i.e. neither in this Gospel dispensation, nor in that which is to follow, namely, the dispensation of Messiah’s reign, though so much more abounding in blessing, extending to the whole world and all nations. But, if not then, never, as stated in Mat 12:31; see the parallel place, Mar 3:28 (De Burgh). The primary reference is probably to the prophecy Isa 9:6, where for The everlasting Father, the LXX. and the Vulgate read The Father of the age to come (De Burgh). Mat 13:39, 40; Mat 13:49; Mat 24:3; Mat 19:28; Mat 28:20, Eze 33:16 note. +*Mar 10:30, Luk 18:30; Luk 20:35, +**Joh 6:54 note. *Eph 1:21, Heb 2:5; Heb 6:5; +*Heb 9:27.

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My answer to “REFUTING Christian claim on Psalm 16:10”

 

The Text:

Psalm 16:10  For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (KJV)

Psalm 16:10  For Thou wilt not abandon my soul to the nether-world; neither wilt Thou suffer Thy godly one to see the pit. (JPS-ASVII, Jewish Publication Society)

Psalm 16:10.  For thou wilt not abandon my soul to the grave: thou wilt not suffer thy pious (servant) to see corruption. (Isaac Leeser translation)

Psalm 16:10.  For you leave not your Darling to look on decay. (Ferrar Fenton translation)

Psalm 16:10. For you will not leave my soul in Sheol. You will not allow your loyal one to see the pit. (NWT, New World Translation, 1984)

Psalm 16:10.  For thou hast not left my soul in Sheol; neither hast thou suffered thy Holy One to see corruption. (Lamsa translation)

Psalm 16:10  for you will not abandon my soul to Sheol; you will not give your faithful one to see the grave. (LEB, Lexham English Bible)

Psalm 16:10  For you will not let my soul be prisoned in the underworld; you will not let your loved one see the place of death. (BBE, Bible in Basic English)

Psalm 16:10  because you will not leave Me in the grave or let Your loved One experience decay. (William Beck translation)

Psalm 16:10  because you do not abandon my soul to the grave or allow your holy one to decay. (GW, God’s Word translation)

Psalm 16:10  because you protect me from the power of death. I have served you faithfully, and you will not abandon me to the world of the dead. (GNB, Good News Bible)

Psalm 16:10  I am your chosen one. You won’t leave me in the grave or let my body decay. (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

 

THE CHALLENGE:

Christian tried to link this to Psalm 16:10 which has nothing to do with the messiah, him dying and resurrecting — and his body not rotting.

Psalm 16:10 is translated as: “For You shall not forsake my life (being alive / the living part of the soul) to the grave; You shall not allow Your pious one to see the pit.”

Most Christian do not know Hebrew (or they rely on poor tools such as the Strong Concordance) and when they see an English translation it will say “my soul” and not “my life.” Even most Jewish translations say “my soul,” but educated Jews realize that the Hebrew is not speaking of the immortal soul at all.

The Hebrew word in question is is נַפְשִׁ֣י / (nafSHI).

נַפְשִׁ֣י / (nafSHI) is a form of נֶפֶש nefesh — a word which is speaking of the part of the soul attached to a living body which keeps the body alive through blood coursing through its veins. Animals and humans have a נֶפֶש nefesh (נַפְשִׁ֣י / (nafSHI) means “my” soul). . . Nefesh is the lowest level of consciousness, is awareness of the physical body and the physical world.

Let me repeat: this is not the immortal soul. Animals do not have immortal souls.

Nefesh is the spiritual existence which resides in the body and keeps the physical metabolism working and the person alive.

“The ruach” is a connection between the neshama and the nefesh. It is the cause of feelings and personal qualities.

Neshama” is the spiritual existence which pulls the man towards God, to the performance of good deeds, to be pious and humble and to seek knowledge and achievement in spiritual fields. It resides around the head.”

Thus Psalm 16 is not speaking of Jesus’ (or King David’s) immortal soul not rotting in a grave. The Hebrew does not speak of the immortal soul in this passage. It simply says that David is grateful that he is alive — PHYSICALLY alive.

This concept of more than one “soul” may be new to some readers, so let me repeat that there are three different terms that people confuse when it comes to translation:

רוּחַ ru’ah,

נְשָׁמָה n’shamah and

נֶפֶשׁ nefesh.

רוּחַ ru’ah is a “spirit“, also translated as “wind.” God breathed a spirit into man (Genesis 2:7).

נְשָׁמָה n’shamah is a word most people think of when they hear the English word “soul.” It means the immortal soul — the one that lives on after death, and defines who we are as people.

נֶפֶשׁ nefesh, confusingly, is also translated as a “soul” — but this word is actually that which keeps the body alive (the blood coursing through your veins). Both animals and humans have a נֶפֶשׁ nefesh.

Psalm 16:10 (and many other psalms) are speaking of the נֶפֶשׁ nefesh — the living human being. It has nothing to do with a person who dies (the נֶפֶשׁ nefesh would then die and this passage would not be applicable). Thus the idea that one can relate this psalm to Jesus dying, being resurrected and his body not rotting to Psalm 16:10 does not “match” the Hebrew word in question.

As mentioned earlier, Psalm 16 is written by King David, about himself after God has forgiven him for the sins related to his relationship with his wife, the daughter of Sheva ( בַּת שֶׁ֫בַע / Bat (daughter of) Sheva).

Psalm 16 does not at all say anything about rising from the dead either. In this Psalm King David is thanking God for not punishing him with death. King David writes: “Therefore, my heart rejoiced, and my soul was glad; even my flesh shall dwell in safety.” Psalm 16:9.

If this were about Jesus who is saying (in present tense) that his heart rejoiced and his soul was glad that his life was safe?

Did you see anything yet about someone dying and arising from the dead?

Nope — and you never will.

Psalm 16:10 says “For You shall not forsake my life (being alive / the living part of the soul) to the grave; You shall not allow Your pious one to see the pit.”

Most people only think of “soul” as the immortal soul, but this is not the meaning of the word נַפְשִׁ֣י / (nafSHI). Animals and humans have a נֶפֶש / nefesh — a life force which keeps the body alive through oxygenated blood coursing through our veins. Animals do not have an immortal soul, a gift God breathed into man alone.

I repeat, in Psalm 16 David is simply speaking of being alive — not his immortal soul.

King David is saying that he will NOT die (so how is he going to arise from the dead if he isn’t dying?).

Psalm 16:11 says “You shall let me know the way of life, the fullness of joys in Your presence. The delights that are in Your right hand for eternity.”

“the way of life” — not death and resurrection.

King David is thanking God for allowing him to live and enjoy life. When King David speaks of delights being eternal — he is speaking of three things: enjoying life, enjoying the presence of God in his life and the realization that when he dies he will have eternal life with God.

There is no prophecy that the messiah will die and be resurrected in the T’nach (Jewish bible).

MY RESPONSE:

The answer to this challenge is simple: the author of the Opening Post has not categorized the lexical uses of the Hebrew word nephesh correctly. I give the correct categorizations below.

 

I have made an exhaustive study of the Hebrew and Greek terms used for “soul” and several other related terms as used in the Bible. I have given the results of my study of these Bible terms in both The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (1992, 1996, 2023, 2024) and The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury (2016).

Psalm 16:10  For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Here are my notes and cross references to related passages of Scripture as I have given them in my digital Bible study resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury for Psalm 16:10,

Psalms 16:10
not leave my. +*Psa 9:17; Psa 21:4; Psa 30:3; *Psa 49:15 mg. Psa 69:15; Psa 71:20; *Psa 86:13; Psa 139:8, Lev 19:28, Num 6:6, *Deut 32:22, Job 11:8, *Pro 15:11; *Pro 27:20, *Isa 5:14; *Isa 14:9, Hos 13:14, *Amos 9:2, Mat 17:23, Mar 10:34, *Luk 16:23, *Joh 2:21; *Joh 2:22; Joh 20:9, Act 2:24; >Act 2:31; Act 3:15; Act 7:59, *1Co 15:4; *1Co 15:55 mg. Eph 1:20, *Rev 1:18; Rev 20:13, 14.

soul. Heb. nephesh, +Psa 30:3, FS121A8, Metonymy of the Cause F/S 545. Soul is put for the person, as when a city contains so many thousand souls. For other instances of this figure see Psa 49:15; Psa 103:1, Luk 1:46, Act 2:27; Act 2:31, +*Rev 6:9 note. Rev 20:4 note. Probably the theological presuppositions of E. W. Bullinger have influenced his categorization of “soul” here, for he was a materialist, who did not believe that the soul was a separate, conscious entity in man, and therefore he denied the conscious existence of man after death. Other more appropriate categorizations of “soul” here, equally if not more defensible than that assigned by Bullinger, would be **FS171Q1, +Gen 12:5, or FS171Q2, +Num 23:10. Other examples which should be carefully noted where the theology of the interpreter greatly influences the figure of speech categories assigned are discussed in the related notes (Gen 24:10 note. Jer 33:18 note. **Php 1:23 note). This materialist bias in the works of Bullinger necessitated considerable reorganization of the New Testament categories for “soul” (+*Mat 2:20 note) and “spirit” (+*Mat 8:16 note) presented in this edition of the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, compared with Bullinger’s original scheme presented in the otherwise helpful volume The Giver and His Gifts, Appendix I, “Classified List of Usages of Pneuma.” Gen 35:18.

hell. Heb. sheol, +Gen 37:35, +Psa 30:3. The word hell, from the Saxon hillan or helan, to hide, or from holl, a cavern, though now used only for the place of torment, anciently denoted the concealed or unseen place of the dead in general; corresponding to the Greek adas, hades, i.e. o aidas topos, the invisible place, and the Hebrew sheol, from shaal, to ask, seek, the place and state of those who are out of the way, and to be sought for. Psa 139:8, Isa 14:9, Amos 9:2, Jon 2:2, +**Mat 10:28.

neither. T44. *Psa 49:15; Psa 71:20, +*Gen 3:15; +*Gen 49:10, +*Isa 7:14; Isa 35:3-6, **Isaiah 53, Zec 11:12, 13, *Act 2:27-31; *>Act 13:35,6, 37, 38, *1Co 15:42; *1Co 15:50-54.

suffer. **FS108A4, +Gen 31:7, +Amo 3:6.

Holy One. or, saint. i.e. Christ the Messiah. T1916. Psa 89:18, 19, Deut 33:8, +Isa 1:4; Isa 10:17; Isa 29:23; Isa 49:7, *Dan 9:24, Hos 11:9, Hab 1:12; Hab 3:3, $Mar 1:24, +*$Luk 1:35; *Luk 4:34, >Act 2:27; *Act 3:14; Act 4:27; >Act 13:35, Heb 5:7; Heb 7:26, 1Jn 2:20, Rev 3:7.

corruption. Heb. shachath, +Job 9:31 (*S# H7845). +Psa 30:3; Psa 49:9; Psa 103:4, Gen 37:35 note. Num 6:20, Job 17:14, Jon 2:3; Jon 2:6-7, Rom 6:9.

I have given a list of the classified uses of nephesh at Genesis 2:7 in my digital resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Genesis 2:7
Lord God. +Gen 2:4.

formed. Gen 2:19, 2Ki 19:25, Psa 94:9; Psa 95:5; Psa 100:3; Psa 139:14, 15, Isa 45:18; Isa 64:8, Note that man’s body was formed, but soul and spirit were created, Gen 1:26, 27, proving man is a compound being.

man. Gen 2:8; Gen 2:15. Note man is a compound being consisting of body and spirit (Gen 41:8 note. Num 27:16 note. Rom 8:10 note), +*Job 14:22, +*Ecc 12:7, +*Mat 10:28, Luk 8:55, 1Co 5:3; >1Co 15:45, 2Co 5:6; 2Co 5:8, %1Th 5:23, %Heb 4:12, 3Jn 1:2.

of the. Heb. dust of the ground.

dust. *Gen 3:19; *Gen 3:23, *Job 4:19; Job 33:6, +*Psa 103:14, Ecc 3:20; +*Ecc 12:7, *Isa 64:8, Rom 9:20, *1Co 15:47, 2Co 4:7; 2Co 5:1, S# H6083, translated elsewhere “ashes,” Num 19:17, 2Ki 23:4; “earth,” Gen 26:15; “ground,” Job 14:8; “morter,” Lev 14:42; Lev 14:45; “powder,” 2Ki 23:6; 2Ki 23:15; “rubbish,” Neh 4:2; Neh 4:10.

and breathed. Job 27:3; Job 33:4, Eze 37:9, Joh 20:22, Act 17:25.

nostrils. Gen 7:22, +*Ecc 3:21, Isa 2:22.

breath. Heb. neshamah. *S# H5397. Gen 7:22, Deut 20:16, Jos 10:40; Jos 11:11; Jos 11:14, 2Sa 22:16, 1Ki 15:29; 1Ki 17:17, Job 4:9; Job 26:4; *Job 27:3; Job 32:8; Job 33:4; +*Job 34:14; Job 37:10, Psa 18:15; Psa 150:6, Pro 20:27, Isa 2:22; Isa 30:33; Isa 42:5; Isa 57:16, Dan 5:23; Dan 10:17. Note that “spirit” or “soul” are not merely “breath.” “Breath” constitutes function, “spirit” and “soul” often designate “being,” or the immaterial part of man. “Breath” is distinct from “spirit” and “soul” as it cannot substitute for these terms in the following passages: Gen 34:3; Gen 41:8, Lev 20:27, Deut 2:30, 1Sa 1:15; 1Sa 28:7, 1Ki 21:5; 1Ki 22:21, 22, 23, 24, Job 34:14, Psa 16:10; Psa 19:7; Psa 34:18; Psa 106:15, Pro 16:18, 19; Pro 18:14, Ecc 1:14, Isa 29:24; Isa 58:5, +*Mat 10:28, Luk 12:19, Joh 4:23, Act 23:8-9, Eph 4:23, 1Th 5:23, Heb 4:12, 1Jn 4:1, Rev 6:9, 10, 11; Rev 20:4, Note also that the human soul or spirit is distinguished from the divine Spirit from whom it proceeded, thus refuting pantheism, 1Co 2:11. Soul or spirit is distinguished from the body it inhabits, refuting materialism, Gen 35:18. *1Ki 17:21, +*Job 14:22, +*Ecc 12:7, +*Zec 12:1 note. +**Mat 10:28 note. Jas 2:26.

of. FS181D. Genitive of Apposition, equivalent to “that is to say” or “consisting of,” thus “breath, that is to say, life.” For other instances of the Genitive of Apposition, see Isa 14:14, *Joh 2:21, Rom 4:11; Rom 4:13; Rom 4:18; Rom 8:23, 2Co 1:22; 2Co 3:17, 18; 2Co 5:1; 2Co 5:5, Eph 4:3; *Eph 4:9; *Eph 6:14, Heb 6:1, 1Pe 1:1, 2Pe 2:6.

life. Gen 6:17; Gen 7:22; Gen 17:15, *Act 17:25, *1Co 15:45, *Heb 12:9.

became. +Gen 1:2.

living. Gen 1:21; Gen 1:24; Gen 2:19, Job 27:3; Job 32:8; Job 33:4, Note man’s body is vitalized by a single principle, the living soul.

soul. Heb. +S# H5315, nephesh. +Gen 1:20; +**Gen 12:5; Gen 35:18, Num 16:22; Num 27:16, *1Ki 17:21, 2Ki 4:27, +*Job 14:22; Job 34:14, Psa 63:1, Pro 20:27, +*Ecc 12:7, *Isa 10:18, *Dan 7:15, Zec 12:1, +*Mat 10:28 note. *Mar 12:26; *Mar 12:27, 1Co 15:45, 1Th 5:23, +*Heb 12:9, Jas 2:26, +*1Pe 3:4. Note that Scripture uses the terms “soul” and “spirit” interchangeably in such passages as Gen 41:8 with Psa 42:6. Both depart the body at death: Gen 35:18 with Psa 146:4, 1Sa 30:12 with Lam 1:11 mg. Both are affirmed to be within man: Job 14:22 with Zec 12:1, Mat 10:28 with Mat 27:50, Joh 12:27 with Joh 13:21, Heb 12:23 with Rev 6:9. Both ’soul’ (nephesh, +Gen 23:8) and ’spirit’ (ruach, +Gen_26:35) are rendered mind: Eze 23:18; Eze 23:28 with Eze 20:32. Both are used of the departed: 1Pe 3:19 with Rev 20:4. Both are used of sadness or sorrow: 1Ki 21:5 with Psa 62:11, Mat 26:28 with Joh 13:21, Isa 26:9 a with Isa 26:9 b. Luk 1:46 with Luk 1:47, Php 1:27 a with Php 1:27 b. An examination of its lexical uses shows immediately that nephesh is used with a broader range of meaning than the more theological English term “soul.” The 754 occurrences of the Hebrew word nephesh (most often rendered “soul”) may be classified as to its lexical uses as follows.

(1) +Gen 2:19, used of lower creatures;

(2) +Gen 9:15, used alike of lower creatures and man, rendered “creature,” “life” (Lev 17:11), “soul” (Num 31:28);

(3) +Gen 12:5, used of man as an individual person;

(4) +Gen 12:13, used of mortal man, as though the soul could die or be destroyed; also rendered “life” (+Gen 44:30), “ghost,” etc. (+Num 23:10);

(5) +Gen 17:14, used of man as being “cut off” by God;

(6) +Gen 27:31, used of man, exercising certain powers, or performing certain acts, often rendered by emphatic pronouns;

(7) +Gen 34:3, used of man, exercising mental faculties, rendered “soul,” “mind” (+Gen 23:8), “heart” (+Exo 23:9), “lust,” etc. (+Exo 15:9); also used of God Himself, +Lev 26:11;

(8) +Lev 19:28, used of man actually dead;

(9) +Num 11:6, used of man as possessing animal appetites and desires;

(10) +Jos 10:28, used of man being slain or killed by man.

(11) +Psa 30:3, used of man as going to a place described by the word “grave,” etc.

[Note that at each key reference given above I give a full list of the occurrences of the Hebrew word that belongs to that lexical category.]

Compare the classification of the corresponding New Testament term psychē at Mat 2:20 note. For “spirit,” Heb. ruach, see Gen 6:3 note. Several faith groups, and some individuals, are most mistaken in their understanding of “soul” and “spirit” as used in the Bible, for they have failed to make a complete induction from all the evidence. All the evidence, a complete induction, is given immediately above under eleven lexical categories.

 

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