Why Everyone is Wrong about Something–Including Me Part 2

Posted on July 8, 2025 by Jerry

 

I want to share with you how I happened to consider this subject. It continues to be a matter of great concern to me because I encounter these issues daily in my own reading and study whether in books or on the Internet.

While I was preparing The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge I encountered two verses that alerted me to the seriousness of this subject:

Ezekiel 14:10  And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him; (KJV, King James Version)

Eze 14:9  “If any prophets are deceived into giving a false answer, it is because I, the LORD, have deceived them. I will remove them from the people of Israel.
Eze 14:10  Both prophets and anyone who consults them will get the same punishment. (GNB, Good News Bible)

Reading this passage and compiling additional cross references convinced me that following the teaching of false prophets and mistaken teachers will result in our being rewarded with the same punishment that God awards the false prophets or teachers.

I came across another passage that relates to this concern, Jeremiah 14:14.

Jeremiah 14:14  Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart. (KJV)

Jeremiah 14:14  Then the LORD said to me, “Those prophets are prophesying lies while claiming my authority! I did not send them. I did not commission them. I did not speak to them. They are prophesying to these people false visions, worthless predictions, and the delusions of their own mind. (NET Bible)

I believe God is warning each of us to be very careful about the claims and teachings of those individuals, religious organizations, churches, and denominations that serve to teach us about God and the Bible. Whether knowingly or unknowingly these sources may be teaching a “false vision.”  We must be vigilant and take heed to what we hear and how we hear. There is a standard God has given us by which to judge the correctness of any source of teaching. That standard is found in the Bible.

The Bible is such a vast collection of written divine revelation that no single person can ever hope in a single lifetime to master all there is to know about it. Just the same, the significant truths and doctrines we must believe are quite plainly revealed. Each of us from our own traditions, reading, and experience may know some important facets of truth that many of us have missed.

I look forward your responses to some of the issues that have concerned me because they are often misunderstood. Our combined insights and concerns should prove to be a learning experience for all of us.

 

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Why Everyone is Wrong About Something–Including Me!

Posted on July 3, 2025 by Jerry

I am preparing a series of posts which I will title “Why Everyone is Wrong About Something! Including Me.”

This ought to set off some Fireworks for the Fourth of July!

My purpose is to challenge each of us, including myself, to dig deeper into the Bible in an effort to understand it better.

Our Lord Jesus Christ left as His command the directive to “make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19).

I have long thought that there is nothing in the Bible that I have found so far in my study and reading that suggests that we must pass a test in Systematic Theology, Biblical Theology, Biblical Hermeneutics, or Apologetics in order to qualify to enter heaven or be saved.

I am reminded of a blind lady in Spartanburg, South Carolina, who asked me to come to her home to conduct a meeting for the children in the Projects who lived around her. She wanted me to teach them the gospel. The children loved to sing the songs they had learned to sing in Sunday school. After the meeting, I stayed longer to enjoy fellowship with Mrs. White. I read to her from her Bible. She appreciated that for she had no one else to read the Bible to her.

I fully expect to see Mrs. White in eternity and anticipate more fellowship with her and many others I have had the pleasure of sharing the Gospel with.

This happened many years ago. At the time, the Mayor of Spartanburg specifically requested that the small group of us who came each Sunday to work with the children to keep doing so, even though all others during those extremely difficult times were asked not to do so anymore because of the building racial tensions.

The culture was much different then. Mrs. White and other residents in the Projects were almost upset when I came to the door and knocked first before entering. They expected me to just come in! That must have been an aspect of Southern hospitality.

And so, as I continue this series, I hope all of you will understand that it is not my intent at all to attack any person or faith. It is my intent to challenge myself and all of you with some very interesting yet likely mistaken views I have encountered.

I listen very carefully to those who may disagree with me. I frequently state that if your evidence proves me wrong, I am willing to be corrected and will change my mind. I think all of us need to develop this attitude.

Just yesterday, I began reading a book I have in my Logos Bible software library that is about discipleship. Among many helpful things I am reading in this book, a key principle is that to connect meaningfully with others we must demonstrate that we care about them personally. They must be encouraged by us in such a way that they become delighted when they see us. The book delves into a more modern approach to right-and-left brain factors that impact continued spiritual growth. The book answers the question: why do some believers begin strong and show great initial spiritual growth but fail to continue after eight years or so, while others continue this growth unabated? The authors suggest that the Church at large has focused upon “left-brain” things like Bible study, theology, logic, and the like while failing to excite consistently the “right-brain” which is what triggers the “left-brain’s” motivation, excitement, and commitment about spiritual things. My oldest son sent me a link about a church that is currently applying these principles. I watched the video, saw the reference to this book, and discovered I have it in my Logos library.

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If Jesus is the eternal Son of God where was He in the time of Moses Part 2

Posted on June 22, 2025 by Jerry

 

Muslim Responses to my comment:

Thanks for sharing your view. But let’s take a closer look at those verses. Exodus 23:20 and Judges 2:1 mention an “angel” or “messenger” of the LORD, but there’s no indication that this angel is Jesus. The Hebrew word used is malakh, which simply means “messenger,” and it’s used throughout the Old Testament for all kinds of beings — including prophets, humans, and heavenly angels. Nothing in those verses identifies the angel as Jesus specifically.

In Judges 2:1, the angel speaks on behalf of God, which actually shows he’s representing God, not that he is God. Speaking for someone doesn’t mean you are that person. Also, if Jesus was really the one leading Israel out of Egypt, wouldn’t he or the prophets have said that clearly in the New Testament? But there’s no verse where Jesus ever makes that claim himself.

It feels like your interpretation is being read into the text rather than coming from it. It’s interesting, but without clear scriptural evidence, it’s more theological guesswork than solid proof. [PixelMistakePicasso]

there’s nothing here that links to Jesus. I hope you are not making the mistake of referring to Jesus as Lord used in those verses? [Muniru Adebambo]

My Response:

PixelMistakePicasso I tried to keep my comment above very direct and short. I cannot fault you and others, including my valued friend, Muniru Adebambo, for not appreciating and acknowledging the strength of the evidence represented by my citation of Exodus 23:20 with Judges 2:1.

These two verses, to be fully understood, must be studied in the light of what the rest of the Bible teaches about the subjects they contain. This is so because the full truth about any subject taught in the Bible is not usually taught all at once in one place (whether verse or chapter or even single book). To learn the correct answer to our questions we must carefully consider all the Bible teaches about the question or subject. This is sometimes spoken of as taking into account “the whole counsel of Scripture” (Acts 20:27).

That is why I concluded my last comment by saying:

A study of the cross references I have given in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury will enable any Bible reader to trace the abundant evidence in the Bible itself which establishes the truth of my claim.

In this process of careful study of Scripture we must be alert to any Figures of Speech the Bible makes use of. In a study of Exodus 23:20 there is an important Figure of Speech involving the key word “Angel.”

In the cross references for Exodus 23:20 I have identified the Figure of Speech involved with the designation “FS171E12.”

Exo 23:20  Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.

From the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury on the key word “Angel”:

Angel. FS171E12, +Gen 48:16. Exo 23:23, +**Exo 3:2 note, Exo 3:6; *Exo 14:19; Exo 32:34; *Exo 33:2; *Exo 33:14, +**Gen 22:15 note. Gen 24:7; Gen 24:40; *Gen 48:16, Num 20:16; Num 22:23, +*Jos 5:13; +*Jos 5:14; Jos 6:2, +*Jdg 2:1; *Jdg 6:11; *Jdg 6:12; *Jdg 6:14, 15, 16; *Jdg 6:20; *Jdg 6:21; *Jdg 6:23, 1Ch 21:16, Psa 91:11, +*Isa 63:9, Dan 3:25 note. Zec 1:12; Zec 3:1; Zec 3:6; *+Zec 12:8, >Mal 3:1, >Mat 11:10, >Mrk 1:2, >Luk 7:27, *Jhn 1:18, *Act 7:35; *Act 7:38, *1Co 10:9; *1Co 10:10.

Using the Figure of Speech Index for FS171E12 leads to its explanation with further examples of the same Figure at Genesis 48:16,

Gen 48:16  The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

The Angel. FS171E12, Synecdoche of the Species F/S 622, A common name is put for a proper one. A name common to many is used of one par excellence. For other instances of this figure see Exo 3:2; Exo 23:20, Jdg 6:11, Mat 21:3; Mat 22:24, Jhn 11:3; Jhn 11:12; Jhn 11:28.

Here are the Bible references cited:

Exodus 3:2
2  And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
King James Version

Exodus 23:20
20  Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
King James Version

Judges 6:11
11  And there came an angel of the LORD, and sat under an oak which was in Ophrah, that pertained unto Joash the Abiezrite: and his son Gideon threshed wheat by the winepress, to hide it from the Midianites.
King James Version

Matthew 21:3
3  And if any man say ought unto you, ye shall say, The Lord hath need of them; and straightway he will send them.
King James Version

Matthew 22:24
24  Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
King James Version

John 11:3
3  Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick.
King James Version

John 11:12
12  Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
King James Version

John 11:28
28  And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her sister secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee.
King James Version

I am reminded of what Jesus said as recorded at John 13:13,

John 13:13
13  Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.
King James Version

And in this very connection, of what Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 12:3,

1Co 12:3  Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Here is the explanatory note I have supplied in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury for the key words “the Lord” at 1 Corinthians 12:3,

the Lord. The word kurios, Lord, is that by which the word Jehovah is commonly rendered in the Greek version of the Old Testament. To say Jesus is the Lord, therefore, in the sense of the apostle, is to acknowledge him to be truly God. No one can truly believe and openly confess that Jesus is God manifest in the flesh unless he is enlightened by the Spirit of God (Hodge). Thus only those enlightened by the Holy Spirit can recognize Jesus as Jehovah. Belief in the full deity of the Lord Jesus is the positive test of orthodoxy given by the apostle. **1Co 2:8; **1Co 15:47, +*Neh 9:6, *Mat 7:21, 22, 23, *Luk 6:46, +*Jhn 8:24; +**Jhn 20:28, +**Act 10:37; Act  11:21 note. **Rom 10:9; **Rom 10:10, 2Co 4:5, Php 2:11, +**1Pe 2:3 note with >Psa 34:8.

Anyone who has carefully read the Bible all the way through often enough so as to have a basic understanding of its contents will immediately recognize the correctness of the connections within its text that I have just now shared with you. May the Lord grant you that understanding too.

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If Jesus is the eternal Son of God, where was He in the time of Moses? Part 1

Posted on June 21, 2025 by Jerry

 

My Comment:

I briefly engaged with two of my long term Muslim friends on Facebook regarding the question of “If Jesus is the eternal son of God, Where was Jesus during Moses’ Time?

Since this discussion on Facebook is relevant to the series I started yesterday, I thought it would be helpful to interject it here today.

The Muslim Challenge:

IF JESUS IS THE ETERNAL SON OF GOD, WHERE WAS HE DURING MOSES’ TIME?

Christians say Jesus is eternally the Son of God, equal with the Father and Holy Spirit as part of the Trinity. They claim He always existed — not just from His birth — and that He was “revealed” in the New Testament.

But here’s the problem…

During Moses’ time, or even Abraham, Noah, or David — there was no clear mention of a “Son of God” who is co-equal with God.

The Old Testament is absolutely silent on the Trinity. No verse ever says:

“God is three persons.”

“Worship the Son.”

“The Messiah will be God in human form.”

In fact, Moses taught pure monotheism:

“Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is ONE.” – Deuteronomy 6:4

No sons, no partners, no three-in-one.

So ask yourself:

Why did none of the prophets ever preach the Trinity?

Why didn’t Moses — called the friend of God — ever mention the Son?

Why didn’t God command people to believe in a three-person deity from the start?

CHRISTIAN RESPONSE (and its weakness):

They usually say:

“God gradually revealed Himself. In the Old Testament He was hidden; in the New Testament He revealed Himself fully through Jesus.”

Seriously?

So you’re telling me that the most important truth about God’s identity — the Trinity — was withheld for thousands of years, and only revealed after Jesus came?

So…

Abraham didn’t know it

Moses didn’t teach it

David never mentioned it

The entire Jewish nation missed it

… but somehow, the Church councils in Rome figured it out?

What kind of God hides His true identity for centuries, only to reveal it through a theological debate in the 4th century?

And don’t forget — even Jesus never said: “I am God, worship me.” He prayed to God, called God “my Father,” and submitted to His will. (John 5:30)

Islam gives the clear, consistent answer:

All prophets preached Tawhid — the oneness of God. No confusion. No contradictions.

Jesus (Isa) is a prophet and messenger — NOT divine, NOT a literal son.

God says clearly in the Qur’an:

“He begets not, nor is He begotten.” (Surah Al-Ikhlas 112:3)

So Christians — before defending “eternal Sonship” — ask yourself:

“Why was the Son of God missing for thousands of years?”

Because He was never there to begin with.

 

My response:

Once again, PixelMistakePicasso, you are not reading the Bible with discernment. You have not carefully compared Scripture with Scripture. I have carefully compared Scripture with Scripture so I know where Jesus was during the time of Moses, even if you claim you do not know.

Question asked of me:

where was Jesus sir?

My answer:

Muniru Adebambo A careful study of the Divine Names as they are employed in the Old Testament or Hebrew Scriptures will show attentive readers that Jesus in His pre-incarnate form was leading the nation of Israel in their journey out of Egypt to the Promised Land. One possible entrance point in a careful study of this subject would be Exodus 23:20 compared with Judges 2:1.

Exodus 23:20
20  Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
King James Version

Judges 2:1
1  And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
King James Version

A study of the cross references I have given in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury will enable any Bible reader to trace the abundant evidence in the Bible itself which establishes the truth of my claim.

 

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No one can see God but they saw Jesus! Part 1

Posted on June 20, 2025 by Jerry

 

The Text:

Exo 33:20  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. (KJV)

Exo 33:20  But he said, “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live!” (UASV, Updated American Standard Version)

My Comment:

I have been busy for almost a week discussing this verse and many other Bible passages with a Muslim friend who certainly has a different understanding of this  passage than I do.

I think my Muslim friend makes a mistake in interpretation that is easy to make: he stakes his claim unbendingly upon his chosen interpretation, unable so far to understand that there is a better interpretation available.

The Musim challenge:

NO ONE CAN SEE GOD — BUT THEY SAW JESUS?

Exodus 33:20

“You cannot see My face, for no one may see Me and live.”

Let’s stop here.

This is not a parable. Not poetry. It’s a direct statement from God Himself to Moses — a prophet Christians, Jews, and Muslims all accept.

And it’s clear:

No one sees God. Ever. And lives.

But then the New Testament says:

People saw Jesus.

They touched him.

They ate with him.

They beat him.

They killed him.

So… who was that?

Because if Jesus was God, then either:

This Old Testament verse is false, or

Jesus is not God.

You choose.

Even the New Testament writers accidentally confirm the contradiction:

John 1:18 – “No one has ever seen God.”

Thank you, John.

Now explain how people saw Jesus — and didn’t drop dead.

The real truth?

God is unseen.

Jesus was seen.

Therefore, Jesus is not the God of Moses.

So once again, the Old Testament buries the Trinity.

My response:

My dear friend, PixelMistakePicasso, may I kindly suggest there is a better and more accurate way to understand the Bible than I see you employing.

You are correct when you state that the Bible itself declares in Exodus 33:20,

Exodus 33:20  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.  (KJV)

Yet, the Bible in both Old Testament and New Testament reports instances of people who saw God and lived:

Genesis 32:30
30  And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
King James Version

Judges 13:22
22  And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
King James Version

Isaiah 6:5
5  Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the LORD of hosts.
King James Version

The answer to this question, has any human being seen God and lived, is YES.

Jesus explained in John 4:24 that “God is spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”

Since God is spirit, He is invisible, and Jesus taught that “No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him” (John 1:18, KJV).

For “he hath declared him” some modern English translations read “he has made him known.”

A careful study of Scripture demonstrates that when individuals saw God, it is Jesus in His pre-incarnate form that they saw.

I have included the following explanatory note in my Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury at John 1:18,

hath seen God. Note.—That is, hath seen God as He is in Himself, or apart from some form assumed to render Himself visible: and thus this passage and the following references are not contradictory to Gen 32:30, or Exo 24:9, 10, or Exo 33:11, or Mat 5:8. Moreover there is reason to believe that, on the occasions recorded in the Old Testament, it was The Word or Christ who appeared in the form of that nature in which he was afterwards to be revealed. Compare Isa 6:1 with Jhn 12:41, and 1Co 10:4; 1Co 10:9 (De Burgh, p. 226). Such pre-incarnate appearances of Christ are sometimes called Christophanies (Jhn 8:56; Jhn 8:58; Jhn 12:41). For Theophanies see +Gen 12:7 and +Gen 17:1). See also Gen 19:24 note and Gen 22:15 note.

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Daily Bible Nugget #951, Revelation 1:8

Posted on June 11, 2025 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. (KJV)

 

My Comment:

Revelation 1:8 was brought up in a recent discussion on Facebook.

I said:

PixelMistakePicasso Study the Bible a bit more accurately and you will learn that John in the book of Revelation calls Jesus God Almighty.

PixelMistakePicasso replied:

You’re referring to Revelation 1:8, right? Let’s quote it:

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:8)

But here’s the thing — that verse is not Jesus speaking. It’s God the Father. Just look at the context:

Revelation 1:1 says this entire revelation was given by God to Jesus.

Verse 4 says: “Grace and peace to you from Him who is, and who was, and who is to come…” — clearly referring to God, not Jesus.

Verse 5 then says: “…and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness…”

So the “Almighty” in verse 8 refers to the same God who gave the revelation to Jesus, not Jesus himself. The Greek clearly separates the speaker as “the Lord God”, not the “Son”.

Let’s be clear: Nowhere in the Book of Revelation does Jesus say “I am God Almighty.” That’s an assumption, not a quote.

In fact, even in Revelation 3:12, Jesus says:

“The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God… I will write on them the name of my God.”

How can Jesus be God Almighty and still say “my God” four times?

That’s not divine identity — that’s servant and subordinate language.

So no, Revelation doesn’t call Jesus “God Almighty.” The more you study it, the clearer it becomes: Jesus is distinct from God and never once claims to be Him.

Try again.

Quote me a verse where Jesus says “I am God Almighty.” I’ll wait.

 

I replied:

PixelMistakePicasso You ask,

Try again.
Quote me a verse where Jesus says “I am God Almighty.” I’ll wait.

I reply:

Not so fast, my dear friend!

I believe that even Muslims, not to mention Jehovah Witnesses (who also use these arguments) can actually learn to do what I call Real Bible Study.

You correctly identified one of the major texts in Scripture that support my claim, not yours:

Rev 1:8  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Note that:

This is Jesus who is speaking.

In my Bible commentary, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, I include the following information to demonstrate that this verse (Revelation 1:8) is spoken by Jesus and applies to Him:

I am. This text, according to Daniel Waterland, “is to be interpreted (with all antiquity) of God the Son,” which he proves (1) from the context; (2) from antiquity; (3) from the weaknesses of the reasons for applying this text to the Father.

As to the context, all acknowledge that verse 7 applies to the Son; there is insufficient contextual warrant for making a sudden shift in this verse to avoid the application of divine titles to the Son, as the Arians argue for.

As to antiquity, both Ante-Nicene and Post-Nicene writers concur in applying this text to Christ, such that “never were men more unanimous than the ancients were in this matter; there being no one exception, on record, against it.”

As to reasons for applying this text to the Father, some argue that since in verse 4 the title “which is, which was, and which is to come” applies to the Father, the same title used here must likewise. But this fails to recognize that the same titles are often given to both, as the title “Alpha and Omega” most certainly is (Rev 1:11; Rev 1:17; Rev 2:8; Rev 22:13. See related note on Rev 3:14).

The objection that the title “the Almighty” is always in Scripture applied to the Father, never the Son, is mistaken, for:

(1) “it is mere groundless presumption to suppose that as often as that title is applied to the one God in the Old Testament, it is applied to the Father only: since it may often be understood indifferently either of Father, or Son, or of the whole Trinity”;

(2) “there are several texts of the Old Testament, which we have good reason to believe are to be understood particularly of God the Son. Psalms 24 has by the primitive Fathers been interpreted of Christ. The title Lord of hosts (Kurios dunameon), applied to Christ in that Psalm, is equivalent to Almighty (Kurios pantokrator), as the LXX Interpreters render the same words indifferently by one or other, as may easily be seen in a multitude of instances, by looking into Trommius’s Concordance.” John himself in his Apocalypse, Rev 4:8, alluding to Isa 6:3, where it reads “Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts,” gives not Kurios dunameon, (or sabaoth), but Kurios o Theos o pantokrator, Lord God Almighty. John likewise applies the title “Lord of hosts” to Christ, as can be seen by comparing Jhn 12:41 with Isa 6:5. Compare Zec 2:8; Zec 12:5; Zec 12:10 with Jhn 19:34; Jhn 19:37. “These instances are sufficient to check the confidence of such as roundly affirm, without a syllable of proof, that the title of pantokrator, Almighty, is in holy Scripture applied always to the Father only” (Waterland, Works, vol. 2, Sermon VI, “Christ’s Divinity proved from his Titles,” pp. 141-143; “A Second Defence of Some Queries,” pp. 562-565).

In reference to the title “the Almighty” note carefully the explanatory notes and the supporting CROSS REFERENCES I have given in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

the Almighty. Gr. pantokratōr (S# G3841, 2Co 6:18). The Apocalypse is the only portion of the NT in which pantokratōr occurs, except in 2Co 6:18. It is, however, of frequent occurrence in the Septuagint, and to that book we must look for the determination of its meaning. In Job it is used to translate shadday (S# H7706), the Almighty [Job 8:5]; elsewhere it is employed as the second member of the compound expression kurios pantokratōr which most frequently represents—not translates—the Hebrew compound Jehovah of hosts (see further in Craven, who concludes: From all these facts it is natural to conclude that pantokratōr was used as a term expressive of infinite supremacy, including the two coordinated ideas of universal dominion—God of hosts—and almighty power). The group of titles represents “the Lord Jehovah the God of Hosts,” a combination of Hos 12:5 and Amos 9:5 (Simcox). Rev 4:8; Rev 11:17; Rev 15:3; Rev 16:7; Rev 16:14; *Rev 19:6; *Rev 19:15; *Rev 21:22; Rev 22:12, 13, 14, 15, 16, **+Gen 17:1 with **Gen 19:24 note; Gen 28:3; Gen 35:11; Gen 43:14; Gen 48:3; +Gen 49:25, +*Exo 6:3, Num 24:4, Ruth 1:20, Job 8:5 g. **Psa 50:1 note. Psa 147:5, +*Isa 9:6; Isa 40:26, Hos 12:5, **+>Amos 4:13, LXX. Mat 28:18, Jhn 1:3; Jhn 8:56, Act 7:38, *2Co 6:18 g. Php 3:21.

NOTE PARTICULARLY THE CROSS REFERENCE TO AMOS 4:13, LXX.:

Amos 4:13  For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought, that maketh the morning darkness, and treadeth upon the high places of the earth, The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name. (KJV)

Amos 4:13
he that. Note: This is a most powerful description of the majesty of Jehovah, the God of hosts. Job 38:4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, Psa 65:6, *Isa 40:12; Isa 42:5, +*Zec 12:1 note.

and createth. Heb. bara, Gen 1:1. Some modern critics allege that this word was not used before the time of Jeremiah; but it is used, besides the Pentateuch, in Psa 51:10; Psa 89:12; Psa 89:47; Psa 102:18; Psa 104:30; Psa 148:5, Ecc 12:1; and in Isaiah frequently (CB). Psa 135:7; Psa 147:18, +Isa 45:18 (*S# H1254). Jer 10:13; Jer 51:16.

wind. or, spirit. Heb. ruach, +Gen 3:8, Pro 30:4, Ecc 3:21, Ezk 37:9 mg. **Jhn 3:8.

and declareth. Psa 7:9; *Psa 139:2, +*Jer 17:10, Dan 2:28, Mat 9:4, Luk 7:39, 40, +*Jhn 2:25.

[CAREFULLY NOTE THE LXX RENDERING CITED NEXT:]

unto men. LXX. adds, “his Christ.” The LXX reads for Amos 4:13, “For behold, I am he that strengthens the thunder, and creates the wind, and proclaims to men his Christ, forming the morning and the darkness, and mounting on the high places of the earth, The Lord God Almighty is his name” (Bagster, Septuagint with Apocrypha Greek and English, p. 1088).

that maketh. *Amos 5:8; Amos 8:9, Exo 10:22; Exo 14:20, Isa 5:30, Jer 13:16.

darkness. +Exo 10:22, +Pro 20:20.

and treadeth. Deut 32:13 <rp. Deut 33:29 <rp. *Mic 1:3, Hab 3:19.

The Lord. Amos 3:13; Amos 5:8; Amos 6:8; Amos 9:6, *Isa 47:4; Isa 48:2, *Jer 10:16; Jer 51:19.

The God of hosts. LXX. renders, “The Lord God Almighty.” 2Sa 7:26, 27; Jer 31:35; Jer 50:34; Hos 12:5; Zec 2:8, 9; Zec 2:11; Zec 3:7; Zec 3:9, 10; Zec 13:7; Mal 3:1 all have “Lord (or Lord God) Almighty” where the Hebrew reads “Lord of Hosts” (+Psa 24:10). The Watchtower claim that Jesus is called “the mighty God” (Isa 9:6) but never “Almighty God” is proven false for John cites this very passage (Amos 5:13) from the LXX. in Rev 1:8 and applies this title to our Lord Jesus Christ. The LXX. usage and renderings show that “Almighty God” and “Lord of Hosts” were by them considered equivalent. >Rev 1:8 note.

is his name. +*Exo 6:3 note. Exo 15:3 <rp. +Psa 68:4; +*Psa 83:18.

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Daily Bible Nugget #950, 1 Thessalonians 4:18

Posted on May 31, 2025 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

1Th 4:18  Wherefore comfort one another with these words. (KJV)

1Th 4:18 So continue encouraging one another with this truth. (Williams NT)

1Th 4:18 So then, be consoling one another with these words. (EB, Emphasized Bible)

My Comment:

These words, written by the Apostle Paul long ago, are meant to be a continuing comfort to readers today.

Paul is answering the question asked by the Thessalonians about the status of those believers who die before the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ at the Pretribulation Rapture. Paul’s answer indicates that those who have died before this event will not be at any disadvantage compared to those who are alive when this takes place. They will be the first to experience bodily resurrection. Those who are alive on earth when this event takes place will immediately be transformed without experiencing physical death to have immortal, imperishable, tangible, glorified bodies like the body our Lord Jesus Christ now possesses.

Reading Paul’s words in their immediate and related contexts, it is clear that he did not at all suggest or state that believers of this age must live through the whole or any part of the Great Tribulation. Such a teaching directly contradicts Paul’s divinely inspired message of comfort.

To dig deeper into these subjects, read the cross references and the notes provided in the two sources shared below:

cross references from the original Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:

1 Thessalonians 4:18
Wherefore: 1Th 5:11, 1Th 5:14; Isa 40:1, 2; Luk 21:28; Heb 12:12

comfort: or, exhort, Heb 10:24, 25

 

cross references and notes from the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

1 Thessalonians 4:18
Wherefore. 1Th 5:11; 1Th 5:14, Isa 40:1, 2, Luk 21:28, Heb 12:12.

comfort. Paul brings this message to comfort the Thessalonians. It is most clear in the Bible that Paul does not pose the threat of suffering through the Great Tribulation first. That would not be a message of comfort. In the very few passages in the New Testament (up to three: here, 2Th 2:1-3, and 1Co 15:22, 23, 24; 1Co 15:51, 52, 53) where Paul discusses or alludes to the Rapture, he never precedes the discussion with a mention of the Great Tribulation. The order is always first the Rapture with its attendant gathering together of believers unto the Lord Jesus Christ, followed by a later discussion of the time of the Great Tribulation and the Antichrist. In this immediate context, mention of anything that pertains to the Great Tribulation does not appear until the next chapter, Chapter 5, of 1 Thessalonians, thus chronologically after the Rapture. Many have argued otherwise, but those who have a different position on this matter have apparently failed to do all their homework. All believers are warned in Scripture that all who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution (2Ti 3:12) and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God (Act 14:22), but neither of those statements has any reference to believers of this church age going through the Great Tribulation which is a unique one-time future event of unparalleled magnitude (Mat 24:21). What I have presented above is the straightforward meaning of the Biblical text. You won’t likely find such detailed, direct discussion of Biblical text in context interpreted literally from those who hold to the mid-tribulation rapture, the Pre-Wrath rapture, the post-tribulation rapture, or to amillennial or postmillennial viewpoints. 1Th 3:2; 1Th 3:7; 1Th 5:11, Num 10:10, Isa 66:13, Jhn 11:19, Act 18:23; Act 20:12, 1Co 14:3; 1Co 14:31, +*2Co 1:4; 2Co 7:6, 7; 2Co 13:11, Col 4:8, 2Th 2:17.

or, exhort. 1Th 4:1; 1Th 4:10, 1Th 2:11; 1Th 5:11; 1Th 5:14, Isa 41:6, +1Co 14:3, 2Th 3:12, +*Heb 3:13; +*Heb 10:24; +*Heb 10:25.

one another. Ecc 4:10, Jhn 11:28, +Rom 12:5, +*Col 3:16.

these words. Jer 51:61, Tit 1:9.

 

 

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My Answers to some Muslim objections to Paul Part 3

Posted on May 29, 2025 by Jerry

 

I hope you have read my answer to your first question.

You ask, in your second question, “Who preached another gospel that Jesus never preached?”

In the New Testament it is Paul who charges the Judaizers of preaching another Gospel,” mentioned in two places:

2 Corinthians 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Galatians 1:6  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

If you take the time to be honest, and take the time to read carefully, I believe you will see that it is not Paul who is preaching “another Jesus.” It is not Paul who teaches “another Gospel.” It is the enemies of Paul and the enemies of Jesus who are doing this.

That the enemies of Paul and Jesus are the ones teaching and preaching false doctrine is very plain, as you will see, when I now address your claim:

I explained before that the Judaizers are not genuine Christians. What the Judaizers taught contradicts what Jesus taught and contradicts what Paul taught. The Judaizers were attempting to force or entice Gentile Christians to first become Jews in order to then become Christians.

You stated:

Paul omitted the First Commandment in Romans 13:8-10, the most serious one. He did it on purpose to promote his new Mystery Gospel, the New Testament.

I answer:

Paul did not omit anything. Paul is teaching exactly what Jesus plainly taught:

Paul is emphasizing the commandment of Jesus “to love one another”:

Romans 13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Paul is teaching that “for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.”

Paul says this again in the next verse:

Romans 13:9  For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Paul repeats this yet again in the next verse:

Rom 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JESUS TAUGHT:

Matthew 22:37-40
37  Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38  This is the first and great commandment.
39  And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40  On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
King James Version

Jesus taught this in answer to the following question that was addressed to Him:

Matthew 22:36  Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

Your second claim states:

“Thats why Jesus warned in 2John 1:9-11 that whoever does not abide in the teaching of Jesus does not have God.⁉️”

Your claim is mistaken. Jesus did not warn what is stated in 2 John 1:9-11. The Apostle John stated this. I explained to you what John was warning against when John wrote these words. John is warning against the false teachers of his day who did not believe that Jesus is coming back in the same resurrected physical body he had when He ascended to heaven because the false teachers taught the mistaken idea that anything physical is evil.

You ask in your final question:

“How can you say this Pauls New Testament is the word of God❓”

Paul’s writings in the New Testament are directly stated to be Scripture by Peter in 2 Peter 3:15-18,

2Pe 3:15  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2Pe 3:18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Peter warns against those who “wrest” or twist or falsely interpret what Paul has written in his letters, “as they also do the other Scriptures, unto their own destruction.”

Therefore, Peter calls the writings of Paul, as we now have them in the New Testament, Scripture.

We all need to “grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” The best way I know of to do that is to carefully read and believe what is contained in the New Testament. That is what I encourage you to do.

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My Answers to some Muslim objections to Paul Part 2

Posted on May 28, 2025 by Jerry

I continued my discussion and answers by saying:

Thank you for continuing our discussion. I am happy to answer your questions.

You ask, in your first question, “Who is that false and satanic apostle in 2 John 1:10, 11 ?”

My answer: To learn who it is that John is referring to, it helps to read the verses that come right before the verses you are asking about:

2Jn 1:3  Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.

2Jn 1:4  I rejoiced greatly that I found of thy children walking in truth, as we have received a commandment from the Father.
2Jn 1:5  And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
2Jn 1:6  And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

The Apostle John carefully explained just which commandments he is talking about when he wrote on this subject in his first letter:

1Jn 3:23  And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

The Apostle John, therefore, is not focusing on the Ten Commandments, but on Two Commandments:

(1) Believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and
(2) love one another, as he [Jesus Christ] gave us commandment.

Next, the Apostle John writes:

2Jn 1:7  For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Who are the deceivers John is talking about? He is talking about those who are teaching that when Jesus comes back He is not returning in His original physical body: in the underlying Greek text of the New Testament the present participle is used, which in modern English would be translated “Jesus Christ coming in the flesh.” These “deceivers” are the false teachers who believed that the flesh or body is evil. They are the early instances or examples of a group later called the Gnostics.

Paul never taught such a false doctrine. He taught against this doctrine in his letter to the Colossians.

I already gave you the evidence that Peter (Cephas), James, and John gave Paul and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, as mentioned in Galatians 2:9.

Gal 2:9  And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

This action by Peter, James, and John means they, as the leaders of the Christian church, fully accepted Paul and Barnabas and approved of the doctrine they taught.

Therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE that the Apostle John in his second letter makes any reference at all to the Apostle Paul. Such an idea is totally mistaken.

 

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My Answers to some Muslim objections to Paul Part 1

Posted on May 25, 2025 by Jerry

 

A Muslim posted a meme on the Internet which states:

“The Gospel which Paul preached”

1 Corinthians 15:

1Co 15:3  For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1Co 15:4  And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

Paul and his sidekick Luke authored 2/3 of the New Testament.

Pagen Paul calls Jesus apostels Matthew, Peter, Mark, John, etc., of being false.

My response:

This meme represents a total misreading of the New Testament text. Paul did not preach “another Gospel.” That is what Paul condemned others for doing. See Galatians 1:6-9. Paul was commissioned by our Lord Jesus Christ Himself to be His Apostle. This is recorded in Acts 9:15 and context.

Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

Act 9:16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name’s sake.

Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

Act 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

 

Muslim challenge to me:

When John was in prison, Jesus came to Galilee and preached his gospel. What gospel did Jesus preach in Galilee? Then there is no New Testament.

That is what Jesus warned you in 2 John 1:9-11 that whoever does not abide in the teaching of Jesus does not have God.

How can you say this Paul’s New Testament is the word of God?

Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God (Mark 1:14).

What Gospel was he preaching? Certainly not the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John, which didn’t exist in his lifetime.

My response:

The Gospel of the Kingdom of God is firmly based upon the teaching of the Hebrew Scriptures. The books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are the first century primary source records of what Jesus did and taught.

 

How can you logically make reference to Mark 1:14 if you do not consider the writing that contains it to truly represent the message of our Lord Jesus Christ?

 

Muslim response to me in the form of a meme which states:

“Pagen Paul calls Jesus apostels Matthew, Peter, Mark, John, etc, of being false apostels of Christ, deceitful workers 2 Corinthians 11:13.”

My  response:

In order to understand a verse such as 2 Corinthians 11:13 it is necessary to understand the contexts correctly.

2Co 11:13  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

In this case, Paul is not being critical of Matthew, Peter, Mark, or John. He never accused them of being false apostles.

Paul is accusing the Judaizers of being false apostles. These were individuals who attempted to derail the work of Paul’s ministry to the Gentiles. The Judaizers taught that to become a Christian, a person must first become a Jew. This is explained in detail in Acts chapter 15:

Act 15:1  And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Act 15:2  When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.

Paul is not criticizing Peter. Peter, if you read his writings in the New Testament, called Paul’s writings Scripture:

2Pe 3:14  Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
2Pe 3:15  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
2Pe 3:18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

Peter in his very last words at this end of his second letter speaks of Paul as “our beloved brother Paul.” Peter speaks of Paul’s letters as being hard to understand for the unlearned and unstable, for those enemies of Paul wrest or twist what Paul has written, “as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.” Peter, therefore, very clearly considers the writings of Paul to be Scripture.

Mark worked with Peter, and the Gospel that Mark wrote reflects the teaching and preaching of Peter. Paul refers to Mark in one of his letters very favorably:

2 Timothy 4:11
11  Only Luke is with me. Take Mark, and bring him with thee: for he is profitable to me for the ministry.
King James Version

John was one of the three “pillars of the church” who extended the right hand of fellowship to Paul and Barnabas:

Galatians 2:9
9  And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.
King James Version

That means that Peter (Cephas), James, and John fully accepted the validity of Paul’s ministry.

All this evidence directly contradicts your claim. Therefore, you are mistaken in your understanding of the historical record given in the New Testament.

Based on what Peter wrote about the writings of Paul, anyone who twists them does so to their own eternal destruction. May the Lord Himself grant you grace and wisdom as you more carefully read the Bible from now on.

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