Daily Bible Nugget #845, John 17:22

 

The Nugget:

Joh 17:22  And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

The Challenge:

Jesus divinity is a scam.

Philippians 2:7-17 Nay, He stripped Himself of His glory, and took on Him the nature of a bondservant by becoming a man like other men.

Isaiah 42:8 (KJV) I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Cultic Jesus contradict the God of Israel.

John 17:22 (KJV) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

And worst dilemma.If the Glory and oneness of Jesus is about divinity.christianity is not just having trion gods but all followers of Jesus is same as God.

remember he gives his glory and we become one as the father and Jesus is One.

My Response:

If you understood how to study the Bible, and then actually studied the Bible carefully, you would never make such a mistaken claim as to say “Jesus divinity is a scam.”

So far, in terms of what I have usually seen by your responses to my comments, you do not seem to have any desire at all to come to a more accurate understanding of the Bible.

I just now carefully consulted the cross references given for John 17:22. You selected a very interesting verse to study, and I thank you for that. I wish you were open to studying that verse the way I just did.

I read the cross references given for the key words “I have given them.”

have given them. Jer 30:19, *Rom 8:17; *Rom 8:30, 1Th 2:12, Heb 2:10.

Jeremiah 30:19
19  And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
King James Version

Romans 8:17
17  And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
King James Version

Romans 8:30
30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
King James Version

1 Thessalonians 2:12
12  That ye would walk worthy of God, who hath called you unto his kingdom and glory.
King James Version

Hebrews 2:10
10  For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
King James Version

It is clear to me by my reading of these cross references that our Lord Jesus Christ here spoke by way of anticipation. The glory He has given to those who truly believe and follow Him, though a possession now of a future promised blessing, is spoken of as a present and future certainty.

Careful students of the Bible who truly want to understand what it teaches will do as I just did and look further into what is taught in Romans 8:30.

Rom 8:30  Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Looking at the last clause of Romans 8:30, which reads “them he also glorified,” careful readers and students of the Bible would learn that this is an example of the Figure of Speech called “Heterosis of Tenses” [the past tense, “glorified,” is put  for the future tense, to emphasize its certainty], where the called ones are spoken of as already (in the Divine Purpose) in Christ, justified, and glorified.

Bible believing Christians are able to receive and understand these truths from Scripture. Unbelievers are usually not able to do so. Those who wish to further follow up on such studies for themselves will find more information in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge or The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury on these passages.

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