9-6-23 Answer to Muslim challenge re Who controlled the Universe when God was a man
The Muslim Challenge:
“When god comes into the body of a man, he becomes limited. Who controlled the universe during the 30 years when he was a man?” (TK on 9-2-23 at 6:14 AM)
My Response (9-2-23):
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
TK replied (9-3-23):
Who controlled the universe when god became a man?
My Answer to TK’s Question:
From the very Bible passages I shared with you in my response above where I cited John 3:13, Colossians 1:16-17, and Philippians 2:6-11, the Bible teaches:
- Even while Jesus was here on earth as a man, He was at the same time also in heaven (John 3:13).
- The Bible teaches that Jesus is before all things (thus, Jesus is eternal and uncreated) and that by Jesus “all things consist” (KJV) (Colossians 1:17). Thus the whole universe is sustained and held together by our Lord Jesus Christ, who created all things (John 1:3. Hebrews 1:2. 2:10. Revelation 4:11.).
John 1:3 All things were created by him, and apart from him not one thing was created6 that has been created. “NET” is the Net Bible
Hebrews 1:2 in these last days he has spoken to us in a son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he created the world. (NET Bible)
Revelation 4:11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
since you created all things,
and because of your will they existed and were created!” (NET Bible)
- The Bible teaches that our Lord Jesus Christ, being–subsisting, or being essentially–in the form–essential form–of God (Philippians 2:6), took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men (Philippians 2:7). Therefore Jesus existed from eternity past as fully God yet came to earth and took upon Himself the form of a man, and so was truly and fully human, for the purpose of becoming “obedient unto death, even the death of the cross” (Philippians 2:8).
Therefore, Jesus in His full Deity was always in control of the universe for He did not give up His Deity when He became a man, as the Bible passages I cited above declare.
WZ responded to my comment:
‘son of man’
My response to WZ (9-5-23):
“Son of man” is a Messianic title applied in the Bible to our Lord Jesus Christ. The title has reference to Daniel 7:13, 14. The title emphasizes that our Lord Jesus Christ will reign forever in His kingdom still possessed of His visible human nature.