4-11-23 My answers to two questions on Logos Forum re NTSK
Mark asked about my comment:
“So for some things, this new edition of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge is even more complete and accurate than The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, though it does not have anywhere near the extensive content.”
Thanks for your very helpful comments on this thread. And of course for your tireless efforts to produce a resource that many find very helpful in their study of God’s Word.
Let me ask, please, a follow up question. Is it possible that one day, the many updates that have completed TNTOSK may one day make its way into TUCRT?
Secondly, what would you say is the usefulness of the extensive content found in TUCRT as opposed to what is currently in TNTOSK?
I responded:
Thank you, Mark, for such perceptive questions!
(1) “Is it possible that one day, the many updates that have completed TNTOSK may one day make its way into TUCRT?”
Almost all of the corrections made in this new edition of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge are taken from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. Probably less than a dozen reference errors are newly corrected since I did The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury.
The Figure of Speech Index in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge was greatly corrected from the same but newer Figure of Speech Index given in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. However, the Publisher found some errors, some lack of correspondence, some missing connections between what is listed in the Figure of Speech Index and what is provided in the text of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. It took me six weeks to figure out how to correct these problems. They are now completely corrected in this new printing of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (and, I presume, its Kindle version).
(2) “What would you say is the usefulness of the extensive content found in TUCRT as opposed to what is currently in TNTOSK?”
The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge even as it stands in the edition available in Logos Bible Software is still in the newly released printed and Kindle edition not so different from each other that the average occasional user of this resource would notice the differences between the two. A “power user” (like me) that uses The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge will probably appreciate the lack of wrong references present in my original work.
The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury is a greatly expanded version of The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. It contains many more cross references, including for the New Testament all the reciprocal references (the inclusion for each verse all the references elsewhere in the original Treasury of Scripture Knowledge that contain references to that verse, and for many verses, the New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge). I completed this feature for all the prophets and minor prophets in the Old Testament, and for all the over 1800 verses listed in the “Key Verse Comparison Chart” of The New Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible which contains verses from every book of the Bible. From the Preface to that chart: “The verses were selected for their doctrinal importance and for their familiarity to readers of the Bible by a team of scholars, editors, and laity.” The UCRT contains many more notes and associated bibliography restored from Bagster’s Comprehensive Bible, as well as a corrected index to those four thousand philological and geographical, etc., notes. And much more, all detailed in the UCRT preface material.
Consider the Bible text, Romans 15:7,
Rom 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God.
Here is a sample comparison for Romans 15:7 from:
The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:
receive: Rom 14:1-3; Mat 10:40; Mar 9:37; Luk 9:48
as: Rom 5:2; Mat 11:28-30; Luk 15:2; Joh 6:37, Joh 13:34
to: Rom 15:9; Eph 1:6-8, Eph 1:12, Eph 1:18; 2Th 1:10-12
The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge:
receive. Rom 12:10; *Rom 14:1-3; +*Mal 3:16; *Mat 10:40; Mat 25:40; *Mar 9:37-41; *Luk 9:48; Luk 10:38; Luk 10:39; Joh 13:34; *Act 9:26-28; *Act 11:25; Act 11:26; *Act 16:15; Act 17:7; +*2Co 6:9; Gal 6:1; Gal 6:2; Heb 13:1; Heb 13:2; +*1Pe 4:9; 1Pe 4:10; 1Jn 3:14; 2 Jn10; ◐3Jn9; 3Jn10
one another. +Rom 12:5
as Christ. Rom 5:2; +*Mat 11:28-30; *Luk 15:2; Joh 1:38; Joh 1:39; ✓Joh 6:37; *Joh 13:34; Heb 2:11; Heb 11:16
to the glory. ver. *Rom 15:9; +Rom 3:23; *Eph 1:6-8; Eph 1:12; Eph 1:18; Php 2:11; *2Th 1:10-12
Nelson’s Cross Reference Guide to the Bible:
receive. Ro 12:10, 13. 14:1-3. 16:2. Ps 119:74. +Mal 3:16. Mt 10:14, 15, 40-42. 18:5. 25:35, 40, 43, 45, 46. Mk 6:11. 9:37-41. Lk 9:5, 48. 10:8, 10, 38, 39. Jn 13:20, 34. Ac 9:26-28, 43. 11:25, 26. 16:15. 17:7. 2 Cor 6:9. 7:2, 15. Ga 6:1. Phil 2:29. Col 4:10. 1 J 3:14. 2 J 10. 3 J 8-10.
one another. +Ro 12:5.
as Christ. Ro 5:2. Mt 11:28-30. Lk 9:11. 15:2. Jn 1:38, 39. 6:37. 13:34. He 2:11. 11:16.
to the glory. Ro 12:9. +Ro 3:23. Ep 1:6-8, 12, 18. Phil 2:11. 2 Th 1:10-12.
The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:
receive, Rom 12:10; Rom 12:13; Rom 14:1-3; Rom 16:2, Psa 119:74, +Mal 3:16, Mat 10:14; Mat 10:15; Mat 10:40-42; Mat 18:5; Mat 25:35; Mat 25:40; Mat 25:43; Mat 25:45; Mat 25:46, Mar 6:11; Mar 9:37-41, Luk 9:5; Luk 9:48; Luk 10:8; Luk 10:10; Luk 10:38; Luk 10:39, Joh 13:20; Joh 13:34, Act 9:26-28; Act 9:43; Act 11:25; Act 11:26; Act 16:15; Act 17:7, 2Co 6:9; 2Co 7:2; 2Co 7:15, Gal 6:1, Php 2:29, Col 4:10, Phm 1:12; Phm 1:17, Heb 13:1-2, +1Pe 4:9-10, 1Jn 3:14, 2Jn 1:10, 3Jn 1:8-10,
one another, +Rom 12:5,
as Christ, Rom 5:2, +Mat 11:28-30, Luk 9:11; Luk 15:2, Joh 1:38; Joh 1:39; Joh 6:37; Joh 13:34, Heb 2:11; Heb 11:16,
to the glory, Rom 12:9, +Rom 3:23, Eph 1:6-8; Eph 1:12; Eph 1:18, Php 2:11, 2Th 1:10-12