Daily Bible Nugget #793, 2 Corinthians 5:15

Posted on November 3, 2023 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

2Co 5:15  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

The Muslim Challenge:

Top 100 Reasons, Reason 33, Jesus Was Never Crucified, Killed, Died For Others
Jesus’ Sign Is Not Same As Jonah’s Sign!

Matthew 12:38-40 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.”He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

– The sign of Jonah, he was in the belly of fish for three days and three nights (Jonah 1:17)

– Jesus was not in the tomb three days and three nights as Matthew 12:38-40 indicates. According to Christians and the authors of the New Testament believe that Jesus was buried on Friday evening, he came out of the tomb Sunday morning (Matthew 28:1, Luke 24:1, John 20:1, Mark 16:2)

– If Jesus of the Bible was buried on Friday evening and came out from the tomb Sunday morning, that cannot be three days and three nights, but it’s two nights and one day, so he was in the tomb Friday night and Saturday night, he was not in the tomb Sunday night, he was only one full day in the tomb, which is Saturday

– Christians try to twist so they can defend Matthew 12:38-40, by saying he was in the tomb three days, it’s like you work half day for three days in a row and you say to people that you work three days in a week, they forget that Jesus of the Bible also said; ‘three nights’ he cannot be in the tomb three days unless he has to be in the tomb for three nights, which makes the total three days and three nights

– Jonah didn’t die when he was in the belly of fish, according to Christians Jesus died in the tomb, the sign is man made same as the unknown crucifixion

– If we follow Matthew 12:38-40, Jesus didn’t die same as Jonah. Salvation through man made, otherwise Jesus prophesied fase prophecy, Deuteronomy 18:22 and Ezekiel 14:9 is the answer

The truth has come and falsehood has vanished, indeed falsehood is a vanish thing!

 

My Answer to the Challenge:

You and many others have made a mistake about how long Jesus was in the tomb as well as what day He died on the cross and was subsequently buried.

The key to the proper chronology is found in Luke 24:21 where the two disciples state “and beside all this, today is THE THIRD DAY SINCE these things were done.”

They said this on the Sunday that Jesus arose bodily from the dead. Jesus was not limping along as he joined their company and entered into conversation with them. Jesus arose in a glorified body that while it still showed his scars, the scars were healed.

If Sunday was the third day since, then
Saturday was the second day since, and
Friday was the first day since, so that
Thursday was the actual day of His crucifixion and death.

To suggest that Jesus did not die for others totally contradicts what the New Testament record teaches:

2 Corinthians 5:15
15  And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
King James Version

Dig deeper by studying the cross references for 2 Corinthians 5:15 as given in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

2 Corinthians 5:15
he died. Eph 5:2.

for all. Many imagine that, because Christ has died for all, all shall be saved; but redemption is by no means so extensive as the curse (Charles Simeon on Gal 3:13). +*2Co 5:14 note. +*Rom 5:18, 1Co 1:13, %*Gal 2:20, 1Th 5:10, +*1Ti 2:6, +*Heb 2:9.

that they. 2Co 3:6, Deut 32:6, Eze 16:6; Eze 37:9; Eze 37:14, Hab 2:4, Zec 10:9, Luk 15:24, Joh 3:15, 16; **Joh 5:23; **Joh 5:24; Joh 6:57, Rom 6:2; Rom 6:11, 12; Rom 8:2; Rom 8:6; Rom 8:10; *+Rom 14:7; *+Rom 14:8, **1Co 6:19; **1Co 6:20, *Gal 2:20; Gal 5:24, 25; Gal 6:14, Eph 5:14, Col 2:12; *Col 3:1, 2, 3, 1Pe 4:6, 1Jn 4:9; 1Jn 5:18.

which live. or, the living. 1Co 4:11, Col 2:13, *1Jn 5:12; *1Jn 5:13.

henceforth. 2Co 5:16, 2Ki 5:17, Rom 6:6, Eph 4:17, 1Pe 1:14, 15; *1Pe 4:2, 3, 4.

live unto themselves. Deut 32:6, 1Sa 12:10, *Mat 25:40, Luk 1:74, Rom 6:2; Rom 6:13; Rom 12:1; Rom 14:7, 8, 9; Rom 14:13, 1Co 6:20; 1Co 10:33, Gal 2:19; Gal 6:14, Php 1:20, 21; Php 2:21, Col 3:17; Col 3:23, 1Th 5:10, 1Ti 5:6, 2Ti 3:2, *Tit 2:14, Heb 13:20, 21, Rev 1:18.

but unto him. 2Co 4:5; 2Co 8:5; 2Co 12:10, +*Gen 49:10, Exo 21:5, Deut 6:5, Psa 26:3; Psa 116:12, Pro 23:26, Zec 7:5, Mat 10:37; Mat 25:40, Mar 12:17, Luk 4:39, *Joh 12:32; Joh 13:17; Joh 14:15; Joh 14:21; Joh 21:15, Rom 14:8, 1Co 6:13, *Gal 2:20, Eph 3:21, Php 2:21; Php 3:7, 8, 1Th 1:3, 2Th 2:1, Heb 13:13, 1Pe 1:8, 1Jn 4:19.

which died for them. Deut 32:6, 1Co 1:13.

rose again. Joh 14:19, *+Rom 4:25; Rom 6:10, 1Co 15:17, Php 3:10.

Dig yet deeper by studying the cross references and the note given for 2 Corinthians 5:14 as found in The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

2Co 5:14  For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

2 Corinthians 5:14
the love. 2Co 8:8, 9, Gen 29:20, Exo 21:5, Deut 6:5, Jdg 16:15, Psa 26:3, Song 1:4; Song 5:2; Song 7:12; Song 8:6, 7, Hos 11:4, Mat 10:37, 38, Luk 7:42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, Joh 14:15; Joh 14:21, 22, 23; *Joh 15:12; *Joh 15:13; Joh 16:27; Joh 21:7; Joh 21:15, 16, 17, Rom 8:35; Rom 12:1, 1Co 16:22, Gal 5:6, *Eph 3:17, 18, 19; Eph 6:24, 1Th 1:3, 2Ti 1:13, +*Heb 6:10, *1Pe 1:8, *1Jn 3:16; *1Jn 4:19.

of. FS181E, +Gen 3:24.

Christ. Eph 4:20; Eph 5:2.

constraineth. Gr. sunechō (S# G4912, Luk 4:38). Gen 19:3, 1Sa 28:23, 2Sa 23:16, 1Ch 11:18, Job 32:18, Psa 116:12, Pro 7:21; Pro 23:26, Isa 11:6, +Luk 4:38 g. Luk 8:45 g. Luk 24:29, *Act 4:19; *Act 4:20; *Act 16:15; +Act 18:5; Act 20:22.

because. Rom 2:2, 1Co 2:14.

if. FS184A, +1Co 15:2.

one died. Rom 5:15; Rom 14:9, Rev 1:18.

for all. Exo 12:6, Isa 53:6, %Mat 20:28; %+*Mat 26:28 note. Joh 1:29; Joh 11:50, 51, 52, Rom 5:18, **1Ti 2:6, *Heb 2:9, **2Pe 3:9, **1Jn 2:1; **1Jn 2:2.

then were all dead. Are all dead? Clearly the Bible teaches that all are dead in trespasses and sins (+*Rom 5:12, **Eph 2:1). As many as are classed as “dead,” just so many Christ has died for; thus Christ has died for all, without limitation. 2Co 3:7; 2Co 3:9, Eze 37:11, Hos 13:1, Luk 15:24; Luk 15:32, Joh 5:25; Joh 11:25, *Rom 5:12; *Rom 5:15; Rom 8:3; Rom 14:7, 8, 9, *Eph 2:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Col 2:13, 1Ti 5:6, Tit 3:3, 1Jn 5:19.

My Comment:

I encourage all who may read what I have posted here to carefully consider that we need to be motivated by the love of Christ for us as well as our love for Christ and what He has done for us.

Much misunderstanding of the Bible and what it actually teaches arises from our failure to do our homework! We need to go back to the Bible itself and learn what it actually teaches. Though the godly pastors and sincere teachers who have taught us the Bible have greatly blessed us all, neither they nor ourselves are perfect in our knowledge.

We need to accept correction from God’s Word, the Bible, as we take time daily to read and study it more.

2Pe 3:18  But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

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Daily Bible Nugget #792, John 14:27

Posted on October 28, 2023 by Jerry


The Nugget:

Joh 14:27  Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.

From Ken Sagely’s Facebook Post:

How sweet the name of Jesus Sounds!

MARK 6.50
For they all saw Him, and were TROUBLED.
And immediately He talked with them,
and saith unto them, Be of good cheer, it is I; be not afraid

LUKE 10.41
And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and TROUBLED about many things.

LUKE 24.38-39
And He said unto them, Why are you TROUBLED? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

JOHN 14.27
Peace I leave with you, my peace i give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be TROUBLED neither let be afraid.

1 PETER 3.14
But and if ye suffer for righteousness sake, happy are ye and be not afraid of their terror, neither be TROUBLED.

How Sweet the Name of Jesus Sounds in a believers ears!
It soothes his sorrows, heals his wounds, and drives away his fear.
it makes the wounded spirit whole and calms the troubled breast:
’tis manna to the hungry soul and to weary breast!

Dig deeper by reading the cross references for John 14:27 from the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

John 14:27
Peace I leave. or, bequeath. FS171I9B, +Isa 57:19, *Joh 16:33; Joh 20:19, 20, 21; Joh 20:26, +Gen 43:23, *Lev 26:6, *Num 6:26, Deut 33:1, Jdg 6:23; Jdg 18:15 mg. Jdg 19:20, 1Sa 25:6, Ezr 5:7, Psa 29:11; Psa 72:2, 3; Psa 72:7; Psa 85:8; Psa 85:10, +*Psa 119:165; Psa 122:7; Psa 125:5, +*Isa 9:6; +*Isa 9:7; **Isa 26:3; **Isa 26:12; Isa 32:15, 16, 17; Isa 54:7, 8, 9, 10; Isa 54:13; Isa 55:12; Isa 57:19, Dan 10:19, *Zec 6:13, *Luk 1:79; *Luk 2:14; Luk 10:5; *Luk 24:36, +*Act 10:36; Act 16:36, Rom 1:7; Rom 2:10; +Rom 5:1; +Rom 5:10; *Rom 8:6; Rom 14:17; Rom 15:13, 1Co 1:3, 2Co 1:3, 4, 5; **2Co 5:18, 20, 21, Gal 1:3; Gal 5:22; Gal 6:16, Eph 2:14, 15, 16, 17; Eph 6:23, Php 2:1; **Php 4:7, Col 1:2; Col 1:20; *Col 3:15, 2Th 1:2; 2Th 3:16, Heb 7:2; Heb 9:17; Heb 13:20, 1Pe 5:14, Rev 1:4.

my peace. The Prince of Peace (Isa 9:6) alone can give true peace (CB). Joh 16:33; Joh 20:19; Joh 20:21; Joh 20:26, +*Eze 37:26, +*Mic 5:5 note. Mat 11:29, Luk 24:36, Eph 2:17, *Php 4:7, Col 3:15.

I give. Joh 10:28, Num 6:26, +*Psa 37:11, Hag 2:9, *2Th 2:16.

not. Joh 16:22, Job 34:29, Psa 28:3; Psa 73:3, 4, 5; Psa 73:16, 17, 18, 19, 20, **Pro 14:13, Jer 6:13, 14, Lam 3:17, Dan 4:1; Dan 6:25, *Luk 12:18, 19, 20, 2Co 6:10.

world. Gr. kosmos, +Mat 4:8.

Let not your heart. +Joh 14:1, Joh 16:6; Joh 20:13, 2Ch 14:11; 2Ch 20:30, *Mat 6:34; *Mat 24:6, Mar 13:7, 2Th 2:2, 1Jn 4:18.

be troubled. Mt 24:6. Mk 6:50. 13:7. Lk 10:41. 24:38, 39. 2 Th 2.2. 1 P 3:14.

afraid. Lev 26:36, Deut 1:21; Deut 31:6, Psa 11:1; Psa 27:1, 2; +**Psa 34:4; Psa 56:3; Psa 56:11; Psa 91:5; Psa 112:7; +Psa 118:6; +*Psa 119:165, Pro 3:25, *Isa 12:2; Isa 13:7, 8; Isa 41:10; Isa 41:14; *Isa 51:12, Jer 1:8, Eze 2:6, Mat 8:26; *Mat 10:26, 27, 28, Mar 4:40, *Luk 12:4; *Luk 12:5; Luk 21:9, Act 18:9, +**2Ti 1:7, +*Heb 13:6, 1Pe 3:14, Rev 2:10; +*Rev 21:8.

 

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Daily Bible Nugget #791, Isaiah 49:6

Posted on October 26, 2023 by Jerry

10-9-23 Daily Bible Nugget #791, Isaiah 49:6

The Nugget:

Isa 49:6  And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth. (KJV)

Isa 49:6  The LORD said to me, “I have a greater task for you, my servant. Not only will you restore to greatness the people of Israel who have survived, but I will also make you a light to the nations—so that all the world may be saved.” (GNB, Good News Bible)

Isa 49:6  Now, the Lord says, “You are not just my servant who restores the tribes of Jacob and brings back those in Israel whom I have preserved. I have also made you a light for the nations so that you would save people all over the world.” (GW, God’s Word translation)

Isa 49:6 Now the LORD says to me, “It isn’t enough for you to be merely my servant. You must do more than lead back survivors from the tribes of Israel. I have placed you here as a light for other nations; you must take my saving power to everyone on earth.” (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

The Muslim Challenge:

PAUL THE FOUNDER OF CHRISTIANITY

JESUS WAS NOT SENT TO THE GENTILES BECAUSE HE DIDN’T SPEAK OR UNDERSTAND ANY OTHER LANGUAGE EXCEPT ARAMAIC AND HEBREW

Ezekiel 3:1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

AND HE SAID TO ME, “SON OF MAN, eat what is before you, eat this scroll; then GO AND SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL.

4 HE THEN SAID TO ME: “SON OF MAN, GO NOW TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL AND SPEAK MY WORDS TO THEM. 5 YOU ARE NOT BEING SENT TO A PEOPLE OF OBSCURE SPEECH AND STRANGE LANGUAGE, BUT TO THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL

NOT TO MANY PEOPLES OF OBSCURE SPEECH AND STRANGE LANGUAGE (GENTILES), WHOSE WORDS YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND.

THAT IS WHY HE WAS SENT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL ONLY NOT TO THE GENTILES

GOD SENT JESUS TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL

Matthew 15:24

Jesus said:

“I WAS SENT ONLY TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL.”

1 Corinthians 9:17

Paul said:

IF I PRECH VOLUNTARILY, I HAVE A REWARD; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me.

Romans 15:20

Paul said:

It HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY AMBITION TO PREACH THE GOSPEL WHERE CHRIST WAS NOT KNOWN, SO THAT I WOULD NOT BE BUILDING ON SOMEONE ELSE’S FOUNDATION.

2 Corinthians 1:19

Paul said:

For the SON OF GOD, JESUS CHRIST, WHO WAS PREACHED AMONG YOU BY US —BY ME AND SILAS AND TIMOTHY

PAUL PREACHED HIS OWN GOSPEL

Romans 16:25

Now to him who is able to strengthen you ACCORDING TO MY GOSPEL

PAUL BLASPHEMED BY ABOLISHING THE LAW AND COMMANDMENTS OF GOD

Romans 6:14

Romans 13:8

Ecclesiastes 12:13

1 John 2:4

Deuteronomy 11:26, 27, 28

1 Corinthians 9:20

PAUL CONVERTING THE GENTILES TO BE CHRISTIANS

Acts 26:28

THEN Agrippa said to PauL, DO YOU THINK THAT IN SUCH A SHORT TIME YOU CAN PERSUADE ME TO BE A CHRISTIAN?”

1 Corinthians 3:10

Paul said:

I LAID a FOUNDATION AS a EXPERT BUILDER, and SOMEONE ELSE IS BUILDING ON IT. But EACH ONE SHOULD BUILD WITH CARE.

Ephesians 2:20

Paul said:

BUILT ON THE FOUNDATION of the apostles and prophets, WITH CHRIST JESUS himself as the CHIEF CORNERSTONE.

1 Corinthians 3:6

Paul said:

I PLANTED THE seed, Apollos WATERED IT.

Luke 8:17

Luke 12:2

Mark 4:22

2 Peter 3:16

HE (PAUL) writes the same way in all his (PAUL’S) LETTERS, speaking in them of these matters. HIS LETTERS CONTAIN some things that are hard to understand, WHICH IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.

HOW MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES ARE DISTORED ACCORDING TO PETER?

 

MY RESPONSE:

Wrong again!

Jesus was multi-lingual.

The usage of figures of speech in the New Testament record of what Jesus said is firm evidence that Jesus understood and could speak Greek. The figures of speech Jesus used work only in the Greek language, not the Aramaic language. In the community where Jesus grew up, Greek was the language of the business community. Remember Jesus worked as a carpenter just as Peter and other disciples of Jesus were fishermen. They needed to know Greek to conduct business in the community where they lived and worked.

Wrong again about Messianic prophecy:

Isaiah 49:6
6  And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
King James Version

Wrong again about the mission of Jesus being exclusively to the Jews. The Bible principle of “to the Jew first, then also to the Gentile” conforms to the command of Jesus given in Acts 1:8,

Acts 1:8
8  But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
King James Version

As for your citation of Matthew 15:24, you are WRONG AGAIN because you have taken this verse out of context. Other evidence in the New Testament clearly shows that Jesus ministered to non-Jews before and after the incident described in Matthew 15:24.

Jesus did not always limit or restrict his ministry to none but the Jews:

(1) He also ministered to Gentiles as here (Matthew 15:22, 24, 28).

(2) He healed the centurion’s servant (Mat 8:13);

(3) He declared his Messiahship to the Samaritan woman at the well (Joh 4:25, 26), and as a result of her vibrant testimony Jesus was asked by the townspeople of the Samaritan city of Sychar to stay two more days with them, which he did, and many of them believed (Joh 4:42).

(4) When Jesus healed the ten lepers, one of them was a Samaritan, the only one who returned to give thanks (Luk 17:11, 12; Luk 17:15, 16).

Christ’s directive (Mat 10:5, 6) that his disciples minister only to the lost sheep of Israel and not enter into any city of the Samaritans nor go in the way of the Gentiles was clearly a directive for that immediate mission, and does not mark a permanent policy of the ministry of Christ that limited His work only to the Jews. It is most clear that Christ came to save the world, not merely the lost sheep of the house of Israel, for He commanded that His Gospel be proclaimed to every creature (Mat 28:19; Mar 16:15; Luk 24:47; Joh 1:29; Joh 3:16; Joh 4:42; Act 1:8; 1Jn 2:2).

You are WRONG AGAIN in your understanding and application of 2 Peter 3:16 when you state and ask:

“HE (PAUL) writes the same way in all his (PAUL’S) LETTERS, speaking in them of these matters. HIS LETTERS CONTAIN some things that are hard to understand, WHICH IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE DISTORT, AS THEY DO THE OTHER SCRIPTURES, TO THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.
HOW MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES ARE DISTORTED ACCORDING TO PETER?”

You have just done what Peter condemns–you have distorted the Scriptures–to your own destruction.

Peter is not faulting Paul for the problem of others misreading and misunderstanding Paul’s writings. The problem resides with faulty readers, not Paul, whose very writings are here regarded by Peter to be Scripture.

My hope is that you will receive the corrections to your misunderstanding of the Bible so you will not continue to distort the Scriptures but understand them correctly.

To understand the Bible correctly, I suggest that you read the New Testament all the way through from Matthew to Revelation.

I suggest that you read the Bible long enough each day (at least 20 minutes a day and more when possible). Read the Bible often enough each week (at least four days of the week). Continue to read the New Testament this way from now on.

It will bring you hope and salvation. It will bring you peace and comfort. It will bring you assurance that you have eternal life and that your sins have been forgiven. Read the Gospel of John extra times through.

That is what I did starting in 1953, now 70 years ago. I am still reading the Bible daily. Just as it has helped me and changed my life for the better, reading the Bible can do the same for you.

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Daily Bible Nugget #790, Jeremiah 17:14

Posted on October 24, 2023 by Jerry

The Nugget:

Jeremiah 17:14  Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

From Ken Sagely’s Facebook Post:

THE Source of Praise

Deuteronomy 10.21
He is thy praise, and He is thy God, that has done for thee these great and terrible things, which thine eyes have seen.

PSALM 7.17
I will Praise the LORD according to His righteousness: and will sing Praise to the name of the LORD Most  High.

PSALM 21.13
Be Thou exalted, LORD, in Thine own strength: so will we sing and praise Thy power.

PSALM 34.1-3
I will bless the LORD at all times: His praise shall continually be in my mouth
2 My soul shall make her boast in the Lord: the humble shall hear and be glad.
3. O magnify the Lord with me, and let us exalt his name together.

PSALM 48.1
Great is the LORD, and greatly to be Praised in the city of our God, in the mountain of His holiness.

PSALM 86.12
I will Praise Thee, O LORD my GOD, with all my heart: and I will glorify Thy name forevermore.

PSALM 104.1
Bless the LORD,O my soul, O LORD my God, Thou art very great:  Thou art clothed with honour and majesty.

1 PETER 1.3
Blessed be the God and Father of our LORD Jesus Christ, which according to His abundant mercy hath  begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
( Blessed be God, Peter exclaims, for I have been born again not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the Word of GOD, which liveth and abideth forever. 1Pe 1.23)

AMAZING GRACE
Amazing grace, how sweet the sound–that
saved a wretch like me I once was lost but
now am found, was blind but now I see.
Twas grace that taught my heart to fear
and grace my fears relieved how precious
did that grace appear the hour I first believed.

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Daily Bible Nugget #789, 1 Corinthians 4:6

Posted on October 23, 2023 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

1Co 4:6  And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. (KJV)

1Co 4:6 I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. (ESV)

1Co 4:6  Brothers and sisters, I have applied this to Apollos and myself for your sake. You should learn from us not to go beyond what is written in Scripture. Then you won’t arrogantly place one of us in opposition to the other. (GW, God’s Word translation)

My Comment:

About 10 days ago (October 12, 2023) I commented several times in a discussion about the fact that we are not to add to or subtract from what the Bible states.

I learned from the Opening Post that 1 Corinthians 4:6 is a passage which affirms this Bible truth–something I had missed in my own Bible reading and study until now. It is always good to learn new things from the Bible as we continue to read it.

From the Opening Post:

The Bible alone is the final authority.

We are also told “Do not go beyond what is written” (1 Corinthians 4:6). That means not to add to Scripture so-called sacred tradition, the writings of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, the Book of Mormon, Qur’an, or anything else. ALL Christian doctrine, correction, training in righteousness and reproof must come from the BIBLE alone to be valid (2 Timothy 3:16, 17).

IF your spiritual beliefs are not based on Scripture, they are NOT TRUE. IF your salvation is not based on Scripture, it is NOT real!

RD commented:

“Bible alone” has many loop holes. It is mere self interpretations.

 

My reply to RD:

The Bible interprets and explains itself. A mistaken interpretation of a particular verse, passage, or Bible theme or subject will be corrected for the honest reader when a full comparison of all related Scriptures is made, and the Rules of Interpretation are carefully followed.

 

Administrator replied to me:

I truly wish this was true, but it clearly is not. The fact that well-meaning and well read Protestants disagree with one another on the meaning of biblical passages should suffice to prove that Scripture isn’t self-interpreting.

Look at the fruits of self-interpretation. People starting churches with no guidance than their own interpretations of scripture, possibly leading others to heresy without even realizing it.

RD responded to Administrator:

this is totally true

I responded to Administrator:

You are totally mistaken. You state:

“The fact that well-meaning and well read Protestants disagree with one another on the meaning of biblical passages should suffice to prove that Scripture isn’t self-interpreting.”

Being “well-meaning and well read” has no relationship to whether they are carefully following the rules of interpretation I have specified and repeatedly alluded to.

“Look at the fruits of self-interpretation. People starting churches with no guidance than their own interpretations of scripture, possibly leading others to heresy without even realizing it.”

You are committing the fallacy of equivocation. I am using the expression “The Bible interprets and explains itself” in an altogether different sense than your inaccurate restatement of my claim using your term “the fruits of self-interpretation.”

The fact that some churches or denominations have been founded on the basis of “self interpretation” has absolutely no bearing upon the fact that the Bible is a self-interpreting, self-correcting Book. There is no evidence that shows that such churches or denominations are basing their foundation upon the careful kind of Bible study I am commending when I state:

“The Bible interprets and explains itself. A mistaken interpretation of a particular verse, passage, or Bible theme or subject will be corrected for the honest reader when a full comparison of all related Scriptures is made, and the Rules of Interpretation are carefully followed.”

Here are the links to the 24 Rules of Interpretation I have mentioned:

Thank you for your kind response to my comment.

Administrator responded to me:

if this is true, then show me specific examples of churches who do follow your rules of interpretation.

It is not a false equivocation to state that if the Bible interprets itself, then it would be manifest in churches that align with each other through that self interpretation.

I mean no disrespect, am I appreciate your opinion, there’s just too many variances of opinion throughout Protestantism on key doctrines to state that the Bible is self interpreting.

Which group of Protestants would you say is adhering to the rules of interpretation? I don’t see any.

My response to Administrator:

All churches and denominations are likely to be provably mistaken on some part of their understanding, interpretation, and application of the Bible. I believe this is true of the Roman Catholic Church as much as any other because by official Roman Catholic teaching about one of a very few Bible verses they have taken an official stand on, they are absolutely wrong. The verse I am referring to is John 3:5.

I am not referencing churches which follow the Rules of Interpretation. I am referencing the need of individual Bible readers to follow the rules of interpretation.

Authoritative teaching or authoritative interpretation is not an institutional matter but a matter of arriving at the correct interpretation of what the Bible teaches using the Rules of Interpretation. That way, we as Bible believing Christians can make an accurate judgment as to the correctness and truth of what any church or other source of teaching presents.

Administrator responded to me:

so then what is the role of the church? Are there any churches who follow the rules of interpretation? Is salvation then only for those who can read and interpret the Bible? Who decided on these rules?

Not to pepper you with questions, but assuming everyone who opens a Bible will innately apply these rules as they read is far fetched, and I would say, applying a level of complexity to salvation that is not God’s intention.

My response to Administrator:

Thank you for your good questions!

What is the role of the church?

The church as well as individual Bible-believing, Bible obeying Christians ought to be obeying the commands of our Lord Jesus Christ:

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (KJV)

Mat 28:19 Going therefore, teach ye all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. (DRB, Douay-Rheims Bible)

Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Mat 28:20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (ESV)

Thus, we are to make disciples. I have placed a very complete list of the commands of Christ in a note at 1 John 2:3 in my book, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge.

There are many commands of Christ recorded in the New Testament, but the chief of them is stated in 1 John 3:23,

1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

Notice the words “one another.” I placed this note and associated cross references in my digital Bible study resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

one another. Reciprocal pronoun, accusative case, plural number, masculine gender. The reciprocal pronoun reinforces the notion that love must be “both ways,” or reciprocated, so mutually displayed by believers in the Christian fellowship. 1Jn 4:11, +Rom 12:5; +**Rom 15:7, 2Jn 1:5.

Another proper role for the church that is largely neglected is specified in the command recorded in Romans 15:7. Most churches are not structured for fellowship whereby members and newcomers can get acquainted with each other such that all feel welcome, all are encouraged, all are discipled, all are taught how to read and study the Bible so they can feed themselves spiritually, all are taught hermeneutics (the Rules of Interpretation) so they can know that they understand the Bible correctly, all are taught apologetics (1 Peter 3:15; 2 Peter 1:16) so they can defend the faith and answer the questions others may have about the faith (Jude 1:3).

Rom 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. (KJV)

Rom 15:7 Wherefore, receive one another, as Christ also hath received you, unto the honour of God. (DRB)

Rom 15:7 Honor God by accepting each other, as Christ has accepted you. (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

Reading the cross references I have assembled for Romans 15:7 will show just how important obeying and practicing this command is:

receive. %Rom 1:31 mg, Rom 12:10; Rom 12:13; *Rom 14:1-3; Rom 16:2, Exo 20:12, Lev 19:3, Job 19:3; +*Job 31:32, **Psa 15:1; **Psa 15:4; %+*Psa 31:11; Psa 34:21; Psa 91:1 note. +**Psa 119:63; Psa 119:74; Psa 133:1; +*Psa 142:7, **Jer 15:16 note. **Jer 37:14 note. Eze 34:4, Mal 1:6; +*Mal 3:16, *Mat 10:14; *Mat 10:15; *Mat 10:40-42; Mat 18:5; Mat 25:35; Mat 25:40; Mat 25:43; Mat 25:45-46, Mar 6:11; *Mar 9:37-41, *Luk 9:5; *Luk 9:48; Luk 10:8; Luk 10:10; Luk 10:16; Luk 10:38-39; Luk 15:2, Joh 13:20; Joh 13:34, *Act 9:17; *Act 9:26-28; *Act 9:43; *Act 11:1; *Act 11:25; *Act 11:26; Act 15:4; *Act 16:15; +Act 17:5; +Act 17:7; Act 21:17, +*1Co 12:21, +*2Co 6:9; +*2Co 6:17; 2Co 7:2; 2Co 7:15, Gal 6:1, Php 2:29, Col 2:19 note. Col 4:10, 1Ti 5:17, Phm 1:12; Phm 1:17, Heb 13:1-2, 1Pe 2:17; 1Pe 3:8; +*1Pe 4:8-10, **1Jn 1:3 note, 1Jn 1:7 note. 1Jn 3:14, %2Jn 1:10; %2Jn 1:11, %3Jn 1:8-10.

The symbols mean:

* clear verse

**critically clear verse–don’t miss reading it

+ find more at this reference on this theme

% contrasting verse

+** very extensive set of cross references at this verse

Not many may take the time to read all these cross references, but those who do will learn just how important this theme is.

I look forward to coming back to answer more of your very good questions.

More of my response to Administrator:

You ask:

“Are there any churches who follow the rules of interpretation?”

There well may be individual pastors and their congregations who are aware of these things.

There are significant modern authors who have written textbooks on the subject that are used in seminaries across the country. I have some of those textbooks in my Logos Bible software library.

They go into much more depth than the 24 Rules of Interpretation I have written. But I believe that anyone can make use of the list I have given to help make sure they are following the principles needed to correctly understand the Bible.

More of my response to Administrator:

You ask:

“Is salvation then only for those who can read and interpret the Bible?”

If a person is in the position that he or she cannot read the Bible, they ought to be able to hear it read.

Readers and non-readers must learn to discern truth from error.

The basic knowledge required for salvation would be quite clear to anyone who can read or listen.

The Rules of Interpretation are guidelines for solving complex or more difficult questions should these be encountered.

Still more of my response to Administrator:

You ask:

“Who decided on these rules?”

I made a list of such basic rules of interpretation when I was still a high school student at Cass Technical High School in Detroit where I was a student in the electrical and electronics curriculum.

The first Christian book I bought was a large volume by Milton S. Terry titled Biblical Hermeneutics. I saw it for sale on a shelf at the Grand Bible and Bookstore in Highland Park, Michigan. I also bought a copy of the original Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. I often studied the Bible about three hours a day using the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. I read Milton S. Terry’s book three times while I was in the eleventh grade, if I recall correctly.

When I became an English teacher at Cass Technical High School I used my list of Rules of Interpretation to help my students see the basis for judging the quality and validity of an interpretation of a work of poetry or short story. I shared that list of rules with many of my classes for the rest of my teaching career.

A Graduate School professor at Wayne State University in a seminar I participated in was shocked and in horror when I described the procedure I used to teach poetry. She thought hermeneutics was only used for the theological interpretation of religious works like the Bible.

I discovered years later that well before that seminar I had purchased a book but had not yet read it that fully affirmed the methods I used to teach poetry and interpretation.

It turns out that the author of that book taught poetry the same way I did. The name of that book is Practical Criticism: A Study of Literary Judgment. It is authored by I. A. Richards.

The back cover reads:

“Mr. Richards is a master of the psychology of criticism” –Saturday Review

“I have set three aims before me,” says the author of this famous book, one of the landmarks of twentieth century criticism. “First, to introduce a new kind of documentation to those who are interested in the contemporary state of culture whether as critics, as philosophers, as teachers, as psychologists, or merely as curious persons. Secondly, to provide a new technique for those who wish to discover for themselves what they think and feel about poetry (and cognate matters) and why they should like or dislike it. Thirdly, to prepare the way for educational methods more efficient than those we use now in developing discrimination and the power to understand what we hear and read.”

The edition of the book I have was published by Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., HB 16 Harvest Books, 1956. Originally published in 1929. 362 pages.

Mr. Richards was part of a school of thought that included the scholars and translators behind the Bible in Basic English.

In any case, my point is that these principles of interpretation are well known and are used in interpreting literature and actually any written or oral communication, whether the law or the weather report.

MW asserted:

Show me in the Bible that the Bible is the final authority.

“If you have a different view than the Apostles you are not more holy than the Apostles. You are wrong.” Father Josiah Trenham

MW to Opening Post author:

do not add or take away is not the same as the Bible is the final authority. Where does it say in the Bible that the Bible is the final authority? It doesn’t. Your whole post is bearing false witness and you know it

My reply to MW:

It may be that you are not as knowledgeable of what the Bible actually teaches as you need to be when you state above:

1. “so show me in the Bible that it says the Bible is the final authority”

The Bible most certainly says it is the final authority:

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (KJV)

That this is the very subject addressed in Isaiah 8:20 is confirmed by reading the immediate context:

Isa 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
Isa 8:17 And I will wait upon the LORD, that hideth his face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for him.
Isa 8:18 Behold, I and the children whom the LORD hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the LORD of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion.
Isa 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (KJV)

They will say to you, “Seek oracles at the pits used to conjure up underworld spirits, from the magicians who chirp and mutter incantations. Should people not seek oracles from their gods, by asking the dead about the destiny of the living?”
Isa 8:20 Then you must recall the LORD’s instructions and the prophetic testimony of what would happen. Certainly they say such things because their minds are spiritually darkened. (NET Bible)

Many other statements in Scripture tell or warn us not to add to God’s Word:

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (KJV)

Cross references given for Proverbs 30:6 lead to many more statements in the Bible that teach we are not to add to God’s written word in the Bible. See Deuteronomy 4:2. 12:32. Ecclesiastes 3:14. Isaiah 29:13. Matthew 15:9. Galatians 1:8, 9. 2 Peter 3:15-18. Jude 1:3. Revelation 22:18, 19.

2. “I’ve proven the Bible is not the final authority.”

It is not possible to “prove” the Bible is not the final authority when the Bible itself states in many places that it IS the final authority.

Jeremiah 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

Jer 23:28 The prophet that hath a dream, let him tell a dream; and he that hath my word, let him speak my word faithfully. What is the chaff to the wheat? saith the LORD.

1Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

BZ replied to me:

the OP said, THE BIBLE ALONE is the final authority.

Even using OP criteria, because he mentioned about rosary for an example not in the bible.

I will asking you now, where in the bible has says the bible ALONE is the final authority to The Church of Christ????

My reply to BZ:
The very verses I quoted from Isaiah 8:20 and context as well as Proverbs 30:5-6 assert that we are to go by the Bible alone.

“Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (KJV)”

1Co 4:6 I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. (ESV)

Clearly, “what is written” refers to what is written in Scripture. See 1 Corinthians 1:19, 31. 3:19, 20.

2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (KJV)

2Ti 3:14 However, continue in what you have learned and found to be true. You know who your teachers were.
2Ti 3:15 From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures. They have the power to give you wisdom so that you can be saved through faith in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 Every Scripture passage is inspired by God. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God’s approval.
2Ti 3:17 They equip God’s servants so that they are completely prepared to do good things. (GW)

Holy Scripture is the only source of doctrinal and spiritual authority for the Christian. This passage teaches the sufficiency of Scripture: Scripture furnishes all that the Christian must know to be saved and to grow in grace, and tells us all we need to know to live a life which is well pleasing to God. No source of doctrine or revelation outside of Scripture is valid, for such a source would be adding to the written word of God, which is absolutely forbidden by Scripture (Rev 22:18).

BZ responded to me:

About rev 22:18.

that is about the prophecy in the book of revelation that revealed to apostle John not about the bible alone as the final authority.

Revelation 22:18
[18]For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

Now, which man/who has the authority to interpret the bible and how the earliest church doing that?

here another question.

Is the church give authority by The Lord in the bible?

My response to BZ:

You ask the interesting question, “Who has the authority to interpret the Bible?”

Anyone who is reading or hearing the Bible with some degree of understanding the Bible is interpreting the Bible. This is true of reading all written language, literary or non-literary.

The key issue arises when there are differences between or among readers of the Bible, differences in understanding or interpretation.

Given two differing or even contradictory interpretations of the same text, it is possible, by using what I call the Rules of Interpretation, to determine which, if either, is correct.

As for the authority and correctness of the earliest church, the same Rules of Interpretation apply. The interpretations recorded and affirmed in the Bible itself are correct. All other interpretations must be carefully checked against and compared to the teaching of the Bible itself by comparing Scripture with Scripture taking into account the immediate, near, remote, and total context of Scripture.

Is the church given authority by the Lord in the Bible?

No new revelation is valid beyond the lifetime of the original authoritative teaching of Jesus himself and his chosen and commissioned apostles as recorded in the 27 first century historical documents which now comprise our New Testament, to which may be added the Hebrew Scriptures used by the Jews in Israel in the time of Christ, which comprise the 39 books of our Old Testament.

As to the applicability of Revelation 22:18, it certainly applies to the book of Revelation itself. But its application is not limited to the book of Revelation alone because of the many parallel Scriptures which state the same principle.

I agree with the sentiments of Matthew Poole when he remarks about the applicability of this warning text:

“Divines generally do further extend the sense of these two verses, considering this as the last portion of holy writ, not only placed last in our Bibles, but revealed and written last. They conceive these verses the seal of all canonical Scripture, and that God here denounces a curse to those who shall pretend any new revelations of his will… as also against all those who shall deny, corrupt, or deprave any part of them.”

BZ asked:

so how we can know which interpretations the correct one if anyone that reading the bible and with some degree of the understanding got their own interpretations?

Because one person can interpreted the bible based on one verse, or more but the interpretation would be differs from each other?

Any solution to this, or perhaps looking from outside the bible?

I answered:

For the most part, the solution to solving and resolving differences in proposed interpretations will be found within the Bible itself by carefully comparing Scripture with Scripture. I find the most helpful way to compare Scripture with Scripture is to make use of Bible study resources designed to supply what are called cross references for each verse in the Bible.

I make use of the free Bible study software program available from e-Sword. It includes a resource titled The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge. This resource is also available as a printed book. I have written three published expansions of The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge titled (1) The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (1992, newly released in 2023); (2) The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury (2016, digital premium module available for the e-Sword Bible software program); (3) Nelson’s Cross Reference Guide to the Bible (printed book, 2007, no longer in print).

I have compiled a list of 24 Rules of Interpretation available in the October 2010 Archives section of my Real Bible Study dot com website. These rules are a summary statement of the principles of Biblical hermeneutics, the science and art of interpretation employed in both Bible and literary interpretation.

Correct interpretations align with those rules while mistaken interpretations violate them.

There are indeed many published resources which can help Bible readers understand the cultural background of the Bible, the original languages of the Bible, the archaeological findings which illuminate Bible times and confirm the historical accuracy of the Bible, and much more.

BZ asked:

can anyone that even using your rules of interpretation and compare other verses, will make other persons interpreration as same and not to make any mistake interpretations?

I answered:

For the most part, yes.

Some individuals have their minds made up already.

Those who are able to consider that they might be mistaken and are open to modifying their views and understanding of the Bible will change their mind when presented with an interpretation which is based upon better evidence than the mistaken view they originally held.

BZ responded:

ok thanks for your replies.

I responded to BZ:

Thank you for asking such good questions!

I responded to MW:

Roman Catholics quote 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to argue we must follow tradition in addition to the Bible. Read this verse again in the English Standard Version:

2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.

Notice whose traditions we are commanded to follow: the teachings (the meaning of the underlying Greek word translated traditions) of the Apostles of Christ.

These teachings are found in one place only: the 27 primary source first century historical documents contained in the New Testament and nowhere else.

Defenders of Roman Catholicism, known as Roman Catholic apologists, engage in a logical fallacy called the fallacy of equivocation which means in this case they set forth an argument about tradition but use the word in two quite different meanings.

Roman Catholics are required to believe the ever-changing and expanding unwritten traditions which the Roman Catholic Church claims to possess. The Bible uses the term in 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to refer to the oral teachings and written letters and documents of the Apostles which are now contained in their final and unchanging form in the New Testament.

My comment elsewhere in the discussion thread:

I believe the Bible clearly asserts that it is the final and only authority:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (KJV)

Isaiah 8:19 They will say to you, “Seek oracles at the pits used to conjure up underworld spirits, from the magicians who chirp and mutter incantations. Should people not seek oracles from their gods, by asking the dead about the destiny of the living?”
Isa 8:20 Then you must recall the LORD’s instructions and the prophetic testimony of what would happen. Certainly they say such things because their minds are spiritually darkened. (NET Bible)

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Jesus is the Final Prophet

Posted on October 19, 2023 by Jerry

10-19-23 Jesus is the Final Prophet

The Nugget:

Mat 24:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

My Comment:

Jesus warned us to “Take heed that no man deceive you” in Matthew 24:4. He warned that “many false prophets shall arise and deceive many” in Matthew 24:11. The writer of Hebrews tells us that God has spoken with finality by His Son in Hebrews 1:2. Therefore, any person who claims to be a divinely inspired Prophet with new revelation from God since Jesus must be a false prophet.

The Muslim Challenge:

Top 100 Reasons, Reason 31, Jesus Was Never Crucified, Killed, Died For Others

The Disciples Of Jesus Were Not The Eyewitnesses Of The Unknown Crucifixion, That’s Why They Oppose One Another About it (The Crucifixion)

Mark 14:50 Then all his disciples deserted him and ran away.

– Christians say ‘prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came 500 years later after Jesus ascension, he didn’t take time with Jesus, he haven’t seen, met him (Jesus), but the disciples witnessed the crucifixion, they saw, met and take time with Jesus so we believe what the eyewitnesses narrated for us

– At the same time Christians quote from the old testament and believe what the prophets said about Jesus despite they haven’t seen, met and took time with him, clear double standard

– Additionally, the disciples ran away and they were not with Jesus after he was captured by the enemies, (Jews and Roman soldiers) as Mark 14:50 indicates, yet they blindly believe what the disciples said about the crucifixion, double standard. They believe what Paul, Luke and Mark said about Jesus, they haven’t seen and met Jesus nor took time with him and Christians believe what they said about Jesus but disbelieve what prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said about him, double standard

– In addition to that, the last time the disciples saw Jesus was after he was captured, they didn’t see him until after two nights and one day, which means they didn’t know what happened to him after they ran away as they witnessed nothing

– The disciples themselves disagree when was Jesus crucified, was it before the Passover or after ? John 19:14 stated that it was before the Passover meal, but Mark 14:12-25, Matthew 26:17-29, Luke 22:7-22 all said he was crucified after the Passover, John himself disagree with himself in John 13:1-30

– They also disagree who carried the cross, was it Jesus himself or Simon of Cyrene? John 19:17 stated that Jesus himself carried his cross, whereas Mark 15:21 stated that Simon of Cyrene was forced to carry the cross. The disciples disagree in many things about the crucifixion, these are just examples,

– According to Christians, the disciples are the eyewitnesses of eveything about Jesus and they disagree about the crucifixion. Christians who do you believe ?

If John and Mark weren’t with Jesus after the enemies captured him, how did they know whether Jesus or Simon of Cyrene carried the cross?

– All the disciples ran away after Jesus was captured, they talked about things that they never witnessed, Christians believe blindly whatever they said about the crucifixion, despite they lied and oppose one another and themselves, there is no eyewitnesses for the unknown crucifixion, it’s all about fantasy and hallucination (Matthew 26:64)

The truth has come and falsehood has vanished, indeed falsehood is a vanish thing!

My Response to the Muslim Challenge:

Contrary to your final statement, falsehood is not a vanishing thing but a multiplying enemy and an affront to the truth of the genuine Gospel of Christ taught in the New Testament.

I believe you are quite mistaken on many points.

For example, you state:

“If John and Mark weren’t with Jesus after the enemies captured him, how did they know whether Jesus or Simon of Cyrene carried the cross?”

As for who carried the cross, it is obvious to careful readers of the New Testament record that Jesus, though already exhausted by the severe and violent treatment he just received, was able to carry the cross part of the way, but Simon of Cyrene was commandeered to carry it the rest of the way.

Who witnessed that part of the record of what was done?

First, we are told that a group of women who had supported Jesus financially witnessed the crucifixion.

Second, we know that Mary the mother of Jesus was at the cross and witnessed the crucifixion.

Third, we know that Simon of Cyrene was visiting Jerusalem for the Passover and was far from his home (about 800 miles) in Cyrene in North Africa. But that his name is specifically entered into the New Testament record indicates he became well known in the Christian community, as his sons, Alexander and Rufus, are named by Mark in his Gospel in Mark 15:21, and Rufus is greeted by name by Paul in Romans 16:13.

Fourth, that Mark was personally witness to at least part of the events the night Jesus was apprehended is evident by the fact Mark includes the account of his narrow escape from the scene (Mark 14:50-52), an embarrassing incident that would hardly have been included if it were not true.

Fifth, both John and Peter were witnesses to the legal proceedings taken against Jesus.

Sixth, the Apostle John was present at the cross when Jesus died. While on the cross Jesus gave John charge to care for Mary, his mother.

You are basically correct when you state:

“- Christians say ‘prophet Muhammad (PBUH) came 500 years later after Jesus ascension, he didn’t take time with Jesus, he haven’t seen, met him (Jesus), but the disciples witnessed the crucifixion, they saw, met and take time with Jesus so we believe what the eyewitnesses narrated for us.”

Muhammed is an Islamic prophet who came on the scene 500 years after the fact. He certainly was not an eye witness of the events surrounding the crucifixion and death of our Lord Jesus Christ on the cross of Calvary. He had no contact with anyone who was actually there on the scene at the time these events took place. What he does report about these events does not agree with the historical record as it is contained in the 27 primary source first century historical documents which now form our New Testament.

You further state:

“- Additionally, the disciples ran away and they were not with Jesus after he was captured by the enemies, (Jews and Roman soldiers) as Mark 14:50 indicates, yet they blindly believe what the disciples said about the crucifixion, double standard. They believe what Paul, Luke and Mark said about Jesus, they haven’t seen and met Jesus nor took time with him and Christians believe what they said about Jesus but disbelieve what prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said about him, double standard”

You are not correct in your claim that Paul, Luke, and Mark haven’t seen and met Jesus nor taken time with him. Paul met Jesus in person on the Damascus Road, and this encounter with Jesus Himself radically transformed Paul from a violent persecutor of Christians to a powerful preacher of the Gospel of Christ who was personally commissioned by Jesus Himself to be His Apostle (Acts 9:15). Luke was in a position to carefully interview those who had been eye witnesses of the things he records in his Gospel record. Mark was a young man in whose home the disciples and Jesus met in Jerusalem besides being in the company of Paul and Barnabas on their first missionary trip and later an assistant to Peter.

Jesus gave careful and severe warning to His followers not to be deceived by those who would afterward come with false claims:

Mat 24:4  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Mat 24:11  And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

There are no legitimate Prophets who are to come after our Lord Jesus Christ, for He is the Final Prophet, as confirmed by the Greek grammar underlying our English translations of Hebrews 1:2,

Hebrews 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

The expression “spoken unto us by his Son” uses for the verb “spoken” the aorist tense, indicative mood, third person singular verb. This means that this divine revelation was final because made by one who in all He is and does reveals the Father.

Any supposed Prophets after our Lord Jesus Christ are therefore condemned as false prophets.

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Daily Bible Nugget #788, 2 Thessalonians 2:15

Posted on October 16, 2023 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

2Th 2:15  Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. (KJV)

2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter. (ESV)

My Comment:

Some of the readers here may get very upset by what I am about to share. If you are guilty of holding to the mistaken belief I am about to severely criticize, you need to get upset and turn to our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, and genuinely repent of holding this belief, even though it is taught by your church, and learn to follow the truth of the Bible alone.

Roman Catholics quote 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to argue we must follow tradition in addition to the Bible. Read this verse again in the English Standard Version:

2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter. (emphasis added)

Notice whose traditions we are commanded to follow: the teachings (the meaning of the underlying Greek word translated traditions) of the Apostles of Christ.

These teachings are found in one place only: the 27 primary source first century historical documents contained in the New Testament and nowhere else.

Defenders of Roman Catholicism, known as Roman Catholic apologists, engage in a logical fallacy called the fallacy of equivocation which means in this case they set forth an argument about tradition but use the word in two quite different meanings.

Roman Catholics are required to believe the ever-changing and expanding unwritten traditions which the Roman Catholic Church claims to possess. The Bible uses the term in 2 Thessalonians 2:15 to refer to the oral teachings and written letters and documents of the Apostles which are now contained in their final and unchanging form in the New Testament.

Cross Reference Bible Study for 2 Thessalonians 2:15 from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

2 Thessalonians 2:15
stand fast. Gr. stēkō (S# G4739, Gal 5:1). %2Th 2:2, See on +**1Co 15:58; +1Co 16:13, +*Gal 5:1, *Php 4:1, +*1Th 3:8.

hold. Gr. krateō (S# G2902, Mat 9:25). *2Th 3:6, Pro 24:21, Rom 14:12, 1Co 11:2; +*1Co 15:2, +*1Th 5:21, 1Ti 6:20, *Tit 1:9, Rev 2:25.

the traditions. Gr. paradosis, *S# G3862. Rendered (1) tradition: Mat 15:2, 3; Mat 15:6, Mar 7:3; Mar 7:5; Mar 7:8, 9; Mar 7:13, Gal 1:14, Col 2:8, 2Th 2:15; 2Th 3:6, (2) ordinance: 1Co 11:2.

All but three of the preceding texts (2Th 2:15; 2Th 3:6; 1Co 11:2) use “tradition” in a most negative sense, as something NOT to be followed.

All that Jesus said about “tradition” was negative: he warned not to follow it.

Roman Catholic apologists assert only their church has the oral or unwritten teachings of Christ and the Apostles preserved as Roman Catholic tradition from that day until now (Joh 20:31; Joh 21:25). They claim to have “the rest of the story” which those who go by the Bible alone and in its entirety are missing.

But this alleged tradition remains a mysterious black box, and its contents remind one of the nursery rhyme, “nothing in it, nothing in it, but the binding ’round it.”

No Roman Catholic has produced an authenticated example of any additional words from Christ that are not in the New Testament. All the extant words of Christ and His direct apostles of the first century are preserved in just one place accessible to all: the 27 primary source documents of the New Testament.

In 2Th 2:15 Paul uses the term “tradition” to refer to the content of the oral teaching the Thessalonians heard Paul give when he was present with them as recorded in the book of Acts (Act 17:1, 2, 3, 4; Act 17:11).

Roman Catholic Apologists are stating absolute lies when they suggest that “tradition” is to be accepted along with the Bible, citing 2Th 2:15.

Paul uses “tradition” in the sense of “teaching” here. Roman Catholics are deceitful when they use the word “tradition,” committing the logical fallacy of equivocation, because they are using a single word but ascribing to it two quite different meanings.

Roman Catholics understand “tradition” to refer to both (1) the very words of Christ and his apostles and (2) the changing and developing doctrines over time of the Roman Catholic Church.

The Bible declares we must believe and hold firmly to the “faith ONCE delivered unto the saints” (Jude 1:3). The Bible in Jude 1:3 pointedly declares the full, complete faith and system of doctrine was “delivered ONCE” using a very strong Greek term for “once” in this passage.

The term literally means “once for all” (a word found at Heb 9:26, 27, 28 and 1Pe 3:18). God’s truth in the Bible never changes, and must not be added to (Psa 119:89, Pro 30:6, Isa 8:20). 2Th 3:6, Mat 15:2, 3, 4, 5, 6; Mat 15:9, Rom 6:17, *1Co 11:2; *1Co 11:23; +*1Co 15:3, Gal 1:12; Gal 1:14, Col 2:8, +*Jud 1:3 g.

whether. 2Th 2:2, 2Th 3:14.

by word. The oral teaching during the visit of the missionaries. +2Th 2:2, **1Th 2:13.

our epistle. Teaching received since that visit. The preservation of the Apostolic teaching was transferred from the oral to the written medium. There is therefore no body of authoritative tradition separate and distinct from the Bible, as some claim to be the case (see Hogg & Vine, pp. 276, 277). +2Sa 11:15, 1Th 4:15, 16, 17, 18.

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Daily Bible Nugget #787, John 6:62

Posted on October 15, 2023 by Jerry

The Nugget:

Joh 6:62  What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

My Comment:

Just now I was answering the mistaken claim that the Ascension of Christ is not mentioned in the four Gospels.

When I left my computer for a very few moments, when I accessed the Facebook post I was responding to, the FB page somehow refreshed itself and I cannot find my unfinished post. Since my e-Sword Bible software program is still open, I can reconstruct my unfinished post here:

The Ascension is mentioned in:

John 6:62,

Joh 6:62  What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?

John 20:17
17  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
King James Version

It is mentioned in Matthew:

Matthew 26:63-64
63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
King James Version

By the Rule of Interpretation I call necessary inference, Jesus during His trial while under oath said He as the Son of man would be seen “sitting on the right hand of power” (that is, the right hand of God), “and coming in the clouds of heaven.” Jesus, therefore, predicted His ascension and future return, since He spoke this prediction while He was still on earth, but He could not be sitting on the right hand of God in heaven unless He first ascended to heaven.

The ascension is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark:

Mark 16:19
19  So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
King James Version

Although many Bible scholars have questioned the authenticity of Mark 16:9-20, I firmly disagree with them. I have placed the following note in my digital Bible study resource, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Mar 16:9  Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.

Now when. The genuineness of Mark 16:9-20 is established by the fact that they are:

(1) contained in the majority of even ancient manuscripts, and in the famous few that omit these verses space was left in some of them sufficient to be included;

(2) the verses are included in ancient versions including the various forms of the Syriac, the Latin, Gothic, Egyptian and Coptic, Armenian, Ethiopic, and Georgian, several of these predating the oldest extant Greek manuscripts for this passage;

(3) the passage has been cited from the time of the earliest Christian writers, including Papias (AD 100) who refers to Mark 16:18 (as stated by Eusebius, Hist. Ecc. iii. 39); Justin Martyr (AD 151), who quotes Mark 16:20 (Apol. I. c. 45); Irenæus (AD 180), who quotes and remarks on Mark 16:19 (Adv. Hær. lib. iii. c. x.); Hippolytus (AD 190-227) quotes Mark 16:17-19 (Lagarde’s ed., 1858, p. 74); Ambrose (AD 374-397) quotes Mark 16:15 four times, Mark 16:16-18 three times, and Mark 16:20 once; Chrysostom (AD 400) refers to Mark 16:9; and states that Mark 16:19-20 are “the end of the Gospel.” Jerome (AD 331-420) includes these twelve verses in his Latin translation, besides quoting Mar 16:9; Mar 16:14 in his other writings; Augustine (AD 395-430) more than quotes them. He discusses them as being the work of the Evangelist Mark, and says that they were publicly read in the churches (Adapted in part from the Companion Bible, Appendix 168, p. 190).

The ascension is mentioned in the Gospel of Luke:

Luke 9:51
51  And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
King James Version

Luke 24:51
51  And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
King James Version

The claim of the individual who posted the Facebook meme today denying that the ascension of Christ is mentioned in the four Gospels is based on a statement he found in a book by F. F. Bruce, The Books and the Parchments.

In this book Bruce surmises that the ending of Luke and the beginning of Acts which repeats the mention of the ascension was added later and was not part of the original text Luke wrote.

To this I answer, Nonsense! Apparently Bruce assumed that Luke and Acts formed one continuous manuscript. I answer that it is far more likely that Luke wrote two separate books, each taking up its own manuscript roll.

Furthermore, I am unaware of any manuscript evidence that demonstrates the ascension of Christ is properly missing from either the ending of Luke or the beginning of Acts.

The ascension is mentioned in the Gospel of John:

John 6:62
62  What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
King James Version

John 7:33
33  Then said Jesus unto them, Yet a little while am I with you, and then I go unto him that sent me.
King James Version

John 13:1
1  Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
King James Version

John 16:16
16  A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
King James Version

John 16:28
28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
King James Version

John 20:17
17  Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
King James Version

The ascension is mentioned in the Book of Acts:

Acts 1:2
2  Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
King James Version
Acts 1:3
3  To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
King James Version

Acts 1:9-11
9  And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11  Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
King James Version

Acts 2:33
33  Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
King James Version

Acts 3:21
21  Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
King James Version

Acts 7:56
56  And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
King James Version

The ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ to heaven is alluded to elsewhere in the New Testament:

Ephesians 4:8-11
8  Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9  (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10  He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11  And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
King James Version

1 Timothy 3:16
16  And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
King James Version

Hebrews 4:14
14  Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
King James Version

Hebrews 9:24
24  For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
King James Version

Hebrews 10:12-13
12  But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13  From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
King James Version

1 Peter 3:22
22  Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
King James Version

The conclusion is clear. All four Gospels, the book of Acts, and many additional New Testament books mention and declare the ascension of our Lord Jesus Christ who is now in heaven at the right hand of God making intercession for us:

Romans 8:34
34  Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
King James Version

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Daily Bible Nugget #786, Luke 22:36

Posted on October 13, 2023 by Jerry

10-13-23 Daily Bible Nugget 786 Luke 22v36

The Nugget:

Luke 22:36  Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Muslim Challenge:

Top 100 Reasons, Reason 30, Jesus Was Never Crucified, Killed, Died For Others

Jesus Asked His Disciples To Get A Sword To Fight Against The Enemies And Defend Him As He Was Anticipating Them To Attack Him

Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Luke 22:38 The disciples said, “See, lord, here are two swords.” “That’s enough!” he replied

– That’s why Peter cut off the ear of the priest. Luke 22:49-50 When Jesus’ followers saw what was going to happen, they said, “lord, should we strike with our swords?” And one of them struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear.

– Jesus allowed his disciples to fight by saying ‘get sword’ two swords is enough’ and when they said ‘should we strike’ he didn’t say no to them that’s why Peter the one Jesus called him ‘satan’ terrorised the enemies but cutting off the servant’s ear. Jesus of the Bible is not Prince of peace but Prince of war and hate as many verses indicate such as Luke 14:26, 22:36, Matthew 10:34, John 8:44, Revelation 2:23, Matthew 5:17, 7:6, 10:5-6, 8:21-22, 15:4, 15:23-26, Mark 7:26-27

– These verses explain Matthew 10:34, Jesus of the Bible didn’t come to bring peace but sword, terrorism, hate…

– Some Christians try to twist Luke 22:36 by saying it’s spiritual sword, but the verses are very clear it’s real one, that’s why they said ‘we have two swords and he said that’s enough’ then Peter cut off the servant’s ear (the high priest’s servant)

– If Jesus knew that he came to die willingly for the sins of Christians, it’s pointless to ask his disciples to get swords to defend him and stop enemies to crucify him, this tells us that he didn’t want to be crucified

– Also if his disciples knew about the crucifixion and that he came to die for their sins, it’s pointless to get swords and fight for him

– Jesus and his disciples shouldn’t fight against the enemies, but he should surrender himself and they should hand him over willingly as Christians believe he came to die for their sins willingly, salvation through fantasy, hallucination and by force

According to Christians, all sacrifices are holy but the crucifixion of Jesus is unholy incident and cursed one by God same as satan Galatians 3:13, Deut 21:23

The truth has come and falsehood has vanished, indeed falsehood is a vanish thing!

 My Response:

I believe you are mistaken in your interpretation of the Bible verses you mention in your Opening Post.

When Jesus told his disciples to buy a sword if they did not have one, this shows that Jesus was not a pacifist but believed in the right of his disciples to self defense should that become necessary.

If you study the life and words and actions of Peter as recorded in the New Testament you will see he is often quick to act impulsively. When Peter cut off the ear of the high priest’s servant, Jesus rebuked Peter and healed the servant’s ear.

When you say,

“- Also if his disciples knew about the crucifixion and that he came to die for their sins, it’s pointless to get swords and fight for him”

you are correct.

But you are mistaken about the need and purpose of being prepared with personal weapons. They were not intended to defend Jesus, but to defend themselves against any attack against their persons.

Did you forget what else Jesus said on this occasion? Here is more of the account:

Mat 26:51  And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.
Mat 26:52  Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
Mat 26:53  Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?
Mat 26:54  But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Mat 26:55  In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me.
Mat 26:56  But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.

Matthew’s statement that “all the disciples forsook him and fled” must be understood in the light of what John recorded in his Gospel:

John 18:3  Judas then, having received a band of men and officers from the chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and weapons.
Joh 18:4  Jesus therefore, knowing all things that should come upon him, went forth, and said unto them, Whom seek ye?
Joh 18:5  They answered him, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus saith unto them, I am he. And Judas also, which betrayed him, stood with them.
Joh 18:6  As soon then as he had said unto them, I am he, they went backward, and fell to the ground.
Joh 18:7  Then asked he them again, Whom seek ye? And they said, Jesus of Nazareth.
Joh 18:8  Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he: if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way:
Joh 18:9  That the saying might be fulfilled, which he spake, Of them which thou gavest me have I lost none.

It is always necessary to compare Scripture with Scripture in order to arrive at a more accurate interpretation.

When the disciples fled, it was in response to the action and permission of Jesus, who stated, “if therefore ye seek me, let these go their way,” which the disciples promptly did.

Cross Reference Bible Study for Luke 22:36 from The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

Luke 22:36
But now. FS121S4, +2Ki 4:29. T1861, Luk 9:3; Luk 10:3, Pro 17:3, Isa 48:10, Mat 10:22, 23, 24, 25, Joh 15:18, 19, 20, 21; Joh 16:33; Joh 17:15, 1Th 2:14, 15; 1Th 3:4, 1Pe 4:1.

take it. Luk 22:49, 50, 51, 1Co 4:11, 12, 2Co 4:16.

scrip. +Luk 22:35.

he that hath. Note: Wetstein well remarks, that these phrases contain nothing but a prediction of instant perils.

no sword. FS63I2, +Jos 3:3. Luk 22:38, *Num 31:3, Jdg 3:2, 2Sa 1:18, +*1Ch 5:22, *Neh 4:13, Psa 18:34, +*Pro 20:18, Joe 3:10, %+*Mat 5:39; Mat 10:34; Mat 26:51, %Joh 18:11; %Joh 18:36, Act 22:25, 26, 27, 28, 29; Act 23:23.

and buy one. +*Pro 22:3, 1Co 15:19; 1Co 15:32, 2Co 10:4, 5.

 

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Daily Bible Nugget #785, Isaiah 26:3

Posted on October 11, 2023 by Jerry

 

The Nugget:

Isa 26:3  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because he trusteth in thee. (KJV)

Isa 26:3  You, LORD, give perfect peace to those who keep their purpose firm and put their trust in you. (GNB, Good News Bible)

Isa 26:3 The man whose heart is unmoved you will keep in peace, because his hope is in you. (BBE, Bible in Basic English)

Isa 26:3  You will keep whoever’s mind is steadfast in perfect peace, because he trusts in you. (WEB, World English Bible)

Isa 26:3  With perfect peace you will protect those whose minds cannot be changed, because they trust you. (GW, God’s Word translation)

Isa 26:3 A purpose sustained, thou wilt guard, saying , Prosper! Prosper! Because in thee, hath he been led to trust. (EB, Emphasized Bible)

Isa 26:3 Thou wilt keep in perfect peace the mind stayed on thee , for he confideth in thee. (Darby)

Isa 26:3 The LORD gives perfect peace to those whose faith is firm. (CEV, Contemporary English Version)

From Ken Sagely’s Facebook Post:

TRUSTING IN THE LORD!

ISAIAH 26.3
Thou wilt keep him in perfect
Peace, whose mind is stayed on

thee: because He Trusteth in Thee

Cross References:

1. JOHN 14.27
Peace I leave with you, my peace I
give unto you: not as the world giveth,
give I unto you . Let not your heart be

troubled , neither let it be afraid.

2. JOHN 16.33
These things I have spoken unto you,
that in me you might have peace. In the
world you shall have tribulation: but be of good

cheer: I have overcome the world.

3. ROMANS 5.1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace

with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

4. ROMANS 14.17
For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink :
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the

Holy Spirit.

5. PHILIPPIANS 4.7
And the peace of God, which passeth all
understanding, shall keep your hearts and

minds through Christ Jesus.

6. PSALM 112.8
He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his

heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord.

7. ISAIAH 32.17
And the work of righteousness shall be
peace: and the effect of righteousness

quietness and assurance for ever

8. PSALM 9.10
And they that know Thy name will put
their Trust in thee for thou, Lord, has

not forsaken them that seek thee

9 PSALM 22.4-5

Our fathers Trusted in Thee: they Trusted,
and Thou didst deliver them.
5. They cried unto thee, and were delivered:

they Trusted in thee, and were not confounded

THE SOLID ROCK
MY hope is built on nothing less
than Jesus blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetness frame,
but wholly lean on Jesus name.
On Christ, the solid rock, I stand
all other ground is sinking sand,
all other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.

My Comment:

Each of the verses above can be further explored for great encouragement by consulting the cross references given in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, and even the original Treasury of Scripture Knowledge (TSK). The TSK is included free in the free e-Sword Bible software available from www.e-Sword.net for use on many different devices. There is no excuse for anyone not having at least one of these resources for personal Bible reading and study!

Philippians 4:7 should be read in connection with the preceding verse, Philippians 4:6,

Php 4:6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
Php 4:7 And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (ESV, English Standard Version)

I have placed a helpful note about two simple methods of Bible study anyone can use to help see the practical application of many verses of Scripture at Psalm 9:10.

Psa 9:10 And those who know your name put their trust in you, for you, O LORD, have not forsaken those who seek you. (ESV)

Psa 9:10  And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, LORD, hast not forsaken them that seek thee. (KJV)

Psalm 9:10 is one of the clearest verses of the Bible which states a cause/effect relationship. I have shared the explanation about this feature of Psalm 9:10 several times before on this site (Place “Psalm 9:10” in the search box to find those posts or read Daily Bible Nugget #17 and #723), but I have never shared any of the other verses in the Bible which display this feature. You can find two more of these cause/effect relationship verses (not included in either the NTSK, the UCRT, or Nelson’s Cross Reference Guide to the Bible) by reading my post of August 23, 2021, Daily Bible Nugget #647 for Proverbs 29:2 and also my post of October 11, 2022, Daily Bible Nugget #707 for Psalm 37:4.

Cause/effect relationship verses should form the basis of the real Bible study for practical application of Scripture. Cause/effect relationship verses are hard to spot, and cannot be found using a concordance. As far as I know, I have furnished the most complete listing of cause/effect relationships available in any Bible study resource.

Here are a few more from the extensive list in the Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury full note at Psalm 9:10,

*Psa 26:1 (walked in integrity, trusted in the Lord, are the cause of I shall not slide, the resultant security).

Psa 55:19 (failure to change brings affliction).

Psa 106:44 (God regarded their affliction when he heard their cry).

*Psa 119:15 (meditate on God’s precepts in order to discern His paths),

Psa 119:36 (desire for God’s Word is the cure for covetousness),

*Deut 28:15 (failure to listen to and obey God’s word brings a curse).

**+Job 23:12 (faithfully feasting on God’s Word prevents apostasy).

Job 34:30 (godless leadership ensnares the general populace).

Job 36:14 mg (homosexual life style leads to early death).

Isa 26:9-10 (show favor to the wicked/he will not learn righteousness).

+**Isa 29:24 note (erred in spirit/come to understanding; murmured/learn doctrine).

**Hos 5:4 (evil deeds squelch repentance; sexual cravings hinder knowing God).

*1Co 12:25 (lack of care may lead to schism).

Pastors and Christian leaders need to note carefully the cause/effect relationship stated at 1 Corinthians 12:25. A local pastor once told me he did not approve of small group home Bible studies because they would be a constant source of division and controversy in the church. The truth is the exact opposite of that pastor’s opinion (Job 23:12 and its stated cause/effect relationship!).

The solution to potential schism or division is the exercise of proper care as exemplified by the Apostle Paul in 2 Corinthians 11:28. See the alternative reading at Romans 12:11, where “in business” may be rendered “earnest care (for others)” and the cross references given there:

Rom 12:11  Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

in business. or, earnest care (for others). Gr. spoudē (S# G4710, Mar 6:25). FS63I1A, +Exo 12:4, +Rom 12:8 (diligence). =Num 8:11 note. =2Ch 13:10; =2Ch 35:14, =Neh 11:22, +*Psa 112:5, Ecc 3:22, *1Co 12:25, Eph 4:11, +*1Ti 3:5, Heb 13:17.

We demonstrate care for others when we actually take the effort and time to listen to them. This can be done one-on-one. Listening can also take place in a small group setting, as at a home Bible study, when the size of the group is kept to 10 or fewer people. See the note for Exodus 18:21 in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge or The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury:

rulers of tens. As noted, by this system each magistrate, ruler, or leader would have the care of only ten men. Studies of small-group dynamics suggest that 10 or 12 is the maximum size for a group where effective listening to one another (+Rom 12:5, 1Co 14:26, Eph 5:19, 20, 21, Jas 5:16) can occur, essential for effective nurturing (Eph 6:4), comfort (2Co 1:4), caring (+*1Ti 3:5), exhortation (+*Heb 3:13), and fellowship (Mal 3:16) for spiritual growth and the discipling of new leadership (1Ti 4:16, 2Ti 2:2). It was prescribed in Jewish practice that ten men as heads of families were required to establish a local synagogue, or to conduct a service. Where a building for the purpose was not available, Edersheim notes “they might meet for worship in a private dwelling, a sort of ’Synagogue in the house’ (Phm 1:2)” (The Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah, vol. 1, p. 433). *Gen 18:32, Rth 4:2, 1Sa 25:5, Mat 10:1, Act 19:7.

 

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