Perhaps I should have titled this “Atheists don’t understand science or the Bible.” Both statements are likely to be equally true.
I was just reading an article at World Net Daily titled “Atheist group wants prof questioning evolution censored.”
Which atheist group?
The usual suspects.
The Freedom from Religion Foundation.
In question is an elective course at Ball State University. It is being taught in the science department in conjunction with the field of physics, and has been fully approved by the university’s science department leadership.
But the course is identified as teaching Intelligent Design, which critics claim is the old Creation/Evolution debate with only a new name.
I find the comments by posters given beneath the article to be quite fascinating.
Here is a sample of just one comment:
That isn’t quite what I said, and I do know what ID is. Nothing is copied from other sites, as I really don’t go out of my way to read evolution sites.
Teaching ID as a scientific theory is unacceptable in the modern age. It does nothing to further our understanding of life and the origins of the universe. It can never be proven, tested, argued, and the evidence for it comes from religious beliefs, and not the scientific methods you mention above. That is the biggest problem in my eyes with ID. It can not be tested, it can never be proven, it is because a religious text says it is so. If we had no religion, and no bibles, and nothing but scientific methods, we would not have ID. We can only have ID with religion, and the most prolific exponents of this theory are those people who are religious, and usually Judeo/christian.
Science can be proven, look at some of the scientific laws we have. Newtons laws on gravity for example, I am guessing you do not float…. a theory in science, like in the theory of evolution, has a different connotation to theory in the traditional definition of the term. Many scientific theories are relied upon, and have furthered our abilities to do things, space travel for example.
Thankfully this notion of ID isn’t as popular outside of the United states. You only need look back in history to see how religious beliefs hampered scientific discovery. Scientists, respected today for their thoughts were persecuted by religious institutions, and some even died for their theories. Countries like Italy, England, Spain, etc, where there is state religions believe in the Theory of Evolution, and would never think of teaching ID outside a theology classroom.
Religion should not be part of Science, Science and Theology need to be separate, so that each can be respected for what they are. You cheapen religion by forcing it in to the area of science, and devalue science by bringing religion in to it.
Again, I am a deeply religious person, but see no place for it in science, and would not want science in my religion.
In my judgment, very few atheists or evolutionists know the difference between science and philosophy.
When science deals with the subject of origins, it ventures into philosophy, for it is attempting to explain what cannot be proven by the scientific method, or by experiment.
I noticed the usual claim made by atheists and defenders of evolution: Science can be proven, the Bible cannot be proven.
Shows how much they know about the Bible–virtually nothing at all. The Bible most certainly can be proven, in the sense that its claims can be verified by history and archeology. The commenters have likely never read even so much as a single scholarly defense of the Bible and Christianity.
Some of the atheistic commenters have no accurate knowledge of the history of science.
Why wasn’t science developed long ago in the ancient civilizations of Greece and Rome?
It turns out that science did not develop in the modern sense until it was developed by Christians!
By the way, Newton was a Christian. His science was better than his understanding of theology. If I recall correctly, Newton did not believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. He wrote a commentary on Daniel and the book of Revelation which I have in my library. So I know he was not as well-informed about Bible prophecy either. But I still count him as a Christian. After all my study of the Bible, I have not found any statement in the Bible that suggests we must pass a test in Systematic Theology in order to get to heaven!
And you must have noticed by now that atheists are reluctant to visit this site to have a discussion.