The Bible versus Obama–Proverbs 29:12

The Text:

Proverbs 29:12 If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked.

My Comment:

Maybe I should call this “My Rant.” President Obama not only listens to lies, he constantly tells lies.

He has the same “disease” that some administrators I’ve encountered suffered from.

He originally ran on the promise that under his presidency, government would be marked by transparency. That was a lie. And is still a lie.

As for Obamacare, President Obama made the claim that individual health care costs and premiums would be reduced. That was a lie. And is still a lie.

I seem to recall President Obama promised greater cooperation across the political divide–he was prepared to negotiate. That was a lie. Right now, it is a very visible blatant lie.

Who closed the World War II Memorial to both the public and World War II veterans? If not President Obama, then it is being done by “his servants.”

The Bible is right. All his servants are wicked.

Who attempted to close down the Amber Alert System? If not President Obama, then it is being done by “his servants.”

The Bible is right. All his servants are wicked.

Who has forbidden Military Chaplains to hold services for our active duty military? If not President Obama, then it is being done by “his servants.”

The Bible is right. All his servants are wicked.

Who has attempted to close down public parks and monuments, even when privately run? If not President Obama, then it is being done by “his servants.”

But remember that where President Obama might wish to go play golf–that is still open.

Who has stopped access to cancer treatment? If not President Obama, then it is being done by “his servants.”

Who during these first days of the “government shutdown” absolutely refuses to negotiate anything? President Obama stated he would not budge. The Democrats in the Senate and Mr. Harry Reid himself refuse to open any negotiations. Who is being Blockheaded? President Obama. Who else are being blockheaded? The Senate Democrats.

Assuredly, the Bible is right. “All his servants are wicked.”

Care to make a Biblical judgment call on the probable eternal destiny of the wicked? Check your Bible at Revelation 21:8 for a starter.

Another verse to check is Psalm 9:17, which reads “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.”

Now, as for the justice and righteousness of the cause supported for the moment by the Republican House of Representatives:

The Founding Fathers very carefully designed the Federal Government to be a limited government. The House of Representatives was given (and still has) the control of the government purse-strings. It is both the right and the duty of the House of Representatives to be “the people’s house,” and serve as an efficient brake upon runaway spending and runaway government. The people have spoken overwhelmingly to their representatives in the House: they do not want Obamacare.

President Obama claims to be a Constitutional scholar. That is what he taught at the University of Chicago. That does not bode well for the quality of education available at the University of Chicago. President Obama runs rampant over the Constitutional limitations provided for in the Constitution. And why not? No one with moral backbone is available to put a stop to President Obama’s rampage.

But what the Republicans have managed to do for a few days so far–exhibit some moral fortitude and backbone–is the correct thing to do.

Anyone who places blame this time on the Republicans in the House of Representatives for the government shutdown is showing their ignorance, or they are flat-out liars, severely warned against in the Bible. This includes the mainstream media, who have utterly failed in their duty to report the truth, but always provide backing and cover for President Obama, who can do no wrong.

So-called “Obamacare” must be stopped dead in its tracks. Failure to do so will bankrupt this country and cause a severe disruption to our civil society.

President Obama promised that when he became president, he would not sign any bill until the public was given at least five full days to read it first. What happened when he was about to sign the Obamacare bill? He or one of his wicked servants argued something to the effect, “We have to pass it first so we can then read what is in it.”

That makes President Obama a liar. And the Bible says, “All his servants are wicked.”

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17 Responses to The Bible versus Obama–Proverbs 29:12

  1. ken sagely says:

    good point! jer 17.9 the heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it? thats why we need to pray without ceasing! i th 5.17 . h.a. ironside
    said ” a corrupt ruler will surround himself with corrupt men, his own evil example
    acting powerfully upon the formation of the characters of his dependents. therefore
    the importance of integrity and uprightness on the part of those who occupy positions and trust and honor.”

  2. Moni Anders says:

    This is garbage. You compare President Obama to the bible. He has not told a lie your Republicans are the Liars. They are destroying the Country and the People of the USA. You are Lying to the people and putting it in with the bible. This is the worst thing a person could do to the people he is trying to save. You are a hypocrite and I pray that God bind up and destroy all Lies spewing from this sight and every sight online. God is in control and nothing and nobody will ever do anything that he has not allowed. “We are to pray without ceasing”. That would better than lying and causes weak individuals to believe this garbage. What have the Republicans done; repeal Obamacare 40 times and no bills have they passed. They have lied over and over and over and you are lying over and over again. HOw sad this sight is and an abomination before God. “Satan rebukes you in the name of Jesus”./

  3. Jerry says:

    Dear Moni Anders,

    Thank you for visiting my site and posting an opinion contrary to mine!

    I respect your strong opinion.

    I trust that you are a Bible believing Christian. I am too.

    On politics in this life we may disagree, but we can surely agree that the Bible is God’s Word, and that Jesus Christ is God’s Son, and eternal life can only be received by those who believe on Jesus Christ.

    What I have written in my post, however, can easily be documented by reference to current news articles on the Internet. The fact that the World War II Memorial has been blocked so that the few remaining World War II veterans cannot visit their own memorial has been a prominent issue in the news this week. The pictures are there on the Internet for all to see. My father, who passed away in 2007, was a World War II veteran. I remember the years of my childhood when my father could not be at home because he was serving in the Air Force in Europe.

    And notice the hypocrisy of the current Administration which blocked World War II veterans from visiting their memorial, but permitted a large rally in support of illegal immigrants. This Administration has demonstrated that it is lawless on many occasions, this being one of them. Forbidding military chaplains to hold religious services is another egregious example. There are many more currently in the news.

    While I certainly forgive President Obama for his unwise decisions, they are still most unwise and actually vindictive. God will be his judge, not me. But President Obama and his “servants” to use the Biblical term are not going to fare very well come Judgment Day, according to what I read that is plainly stated in the Bible. The Bible instructs us to pray for our leaders (1 Timothy 2:1-3). But Ephesians 5:11 commands us to literally “turn the light on” to expose the works of darkness.

    Frankly, both political parties are extremely bad. I am a-political. I have criticized the Republicans quite roundly here on this site in articles under either “Social Justice” or “The Bible and Politics.”

    But this time, when the Republicans are standing (at least for this probably very brief moment!) for what is right, I wrote in support of their current action.

  4. a. way says:

    Jesus: “My kingdom is not of this world”.

  5. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    The verse you cite (John 18:36) is probably one of the most misunderstood verses in the Bible.

    It is very exciting and rewarding to study the verse out carefully, as by using cross references, to learn what it really means.

  6. a. way says:

    Hm – just like the Covenant to Abraham is nearly completely misunderstood…

  7. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    You are certainly correct that the Abrahamic Covenant is nearly completely misunderstood by almost everyone. For one thing, most students of the subject have not carefully studied and set forth the full list of provisions in the Abrahamic Covenant. Study resources I have access to list only a few or several of them, never all. For another thing, many readers fail to comprehend that the Abrahamic Covenant as given to Abraham himself is absolutely unconditional. This means that since the Covenant was given to Abraham personally, and he did not personally live to see it fulfilled in his own experience (Acts 7:5), God will yet literally fulfill the covenant promises to Abraham exactly as promised, as reaffirmed by Jesus Himself (Matthew 8:11). Many individuals, groups, movements, churches, and whole denominations, not to mention the Protestant Reformers themselves (and most Calvinists today, and virtually all the so-called Reformed churches), apparently utterly misunderstand this Covenant. In the process they totally misread the Apostle Paul himself in a manner that totally contradicts what Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote. They do that (with respect to Paul) by taking statements out of context and ignoring some most important assertions Paul made at Romans 11:1, 2, 26, 29.

  8. a. way says:

    Abraham will literally see the fulfillment of the covenant. This was the first promise of the resurrection along with the his seed. The seed to which the promise was given is completely misunderstood. The seed is one, not many. Some say it is literally the nation of Israel. But it is not. It is one and that one is Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    There is only one seed, and that is Christ; but “as many as have been baptized into Christ, have put on Christ,” so that they are all one in Christ Jesus. And “if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”

    The seed is Christ and those who are His, and it is nothing else. The Bible nowhere sets forth any other seed of Abraham. Therefore the promise to Abraham amounted to this: Christ, and those who are His–thy seed–shall possess the gate of their enemies.

    By one man sin came into the world. The temptation came through Satan, the arch-enemy of Christ. Satan and his hosts are the enemies of Christ, and of everything that is like Christ. They are the enemies of all good, and of all men. “The enemy” that sowed the tares is the devil. The name “Satan” means adversary. “Your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.” The promise that Abraham’s seed should possess the gate of his enemies, is the promise of victory over sin and Satan, through Jesus Christ.

    There are those that want to “replace” Jesus Christ as the seed. Genetics will never save any one.

  9. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    Sometimes, with regard to Bible truth, part of the truth is falsehood.

    Latching on to Galatians 3:16 in the manner you have done in your comment above fails to account for all the evidence in the Bible to the contrary.

    As evidence to the contrary, consider that you have centered your comment on just one major provision of the Abrahamic Covenant, namely, that the Messiah would be Abraham’s Seed. But that does not eliminate the other provisions of the Abrahamic Covenant:

    (1) Great nation to come from Abraham, Genesis 12:2.

    (2) Abraham himself to be blessed, Genesis 12:2.

    (3) Abraham’s name to be great, Genesis 12:2.

    (4) Abraham shall be a blessing, Genesis 12:2.

    (5) Those who bless Abraham shall be blessed, Genesis 12:3. (See also Genesis 18:18. 27:29. Numbers 24:9. Psalm +*122:6. Matthew 25:40, 45)

    (6) Those who curse Abraham shall be cursed, Genesis 12:3. (See also Exodus +**23:22mg. Nu 23:8. Dt +*30:7. Je 30:16. Am 9:15)

    (7) All families of the earth shall be blessed in Abraham, Genesis 12:3.

    (8) The land of Canaan given to Abraham’s seed, Genesis 12:7.

    (9) Abraham personally and his seed are to inherit the land as promised, the land of Canaan or Palestine, Genesis 13:15.

    (10) The land of Canaan given to Abraham and his seed forever, Genesis 13:15 (see also Genesis 17:8. Jeremiah 31:36. 33:26. Ezekiel 36:24. Amos +**9:14, 15. Luke **1:32, 33, *55. Romans +*11:1)

    (11) The multitude of his seed or descendants shall be as the dust of the earth, Genesis 13:16. (See also Genesis 28:14. Numbers 23:10)

    This provision would seem to run counter to the interpretation you have given to the seed of Abraham as being exclusively our Lord Jesus Christ. You must also account for the promised almost countless seed of Abraham specified in this provision of the Abrahamic Covenant as well as the next.

    (12) Abraham’s seed to be innumerable as the stars of heaven, Genesis 15:5. (see also Genesis *2217. 26:4. Exodus 32:13. Deuteronomy 1:10. 10:22. 28:62. 1 Chronicles 27:23. Nehemiah 9:23. Psalm 147:4. Jeremiah 33:22. Nahum 3:16. Romans 9:7, 8. Hebrews 11:12)

    (19) All the land of Canaan to be an everlasting possession, Genesis 17:8. (See also Genesis 12:7. 13:15. 15:18. 48:4. Exodus 21:6. 31:16, 17. 40:15. Leviticus 16:24. Numbers 25:13. Deuteronomy 32:8. Judges 2:1. 2 Samuel +*23:5. Psalm 103:17. 111:5. Isaiah 44:7mg. Jeremiah ***31:35-37. ***33:25, 26. Ezekiel *36:24. Amos +**9:14, 15.)

    I suspect I have enumerated more provisions of the Abrahamic Covenant in this comment than you will find in any other resource available to you in print or otherwise.

  10. a. way says:

    YES – and ALL these things happen only in Christ. ALL. Galatians 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you be Christ’s, then are you Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Many try to replace Christ. A Jew today can be an heir, if they are in Christ. Abraham was a Christian! John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

    The final fulfillment of the promise to Abraham is still coming and will happen at the resurrection!

  11. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    During this Age or Dispensation it is true that only those who are in Christ are inheritors of the applicable provisions of the Abrahamic Covenant.

    But there is an Age to come, in the KJV rendered “world to come” (see Matthew 12:32 and the cross references I have gathered there for “this world” and “the world to come”) in which the provisions of the Abrahamic Covenant specific to Abraham’s descendants, the present day Jews, the Hebrews of old, will see a literal fulfillment to themselves of those provisions, particularly those pertaining to the “Land Promise,” provisions which have never as yet been fulfilled.

    Paul writes in Romans 11:26, “And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob.”

    This has nothing to do with Gentile Christians of this dispensation or age. It pertains to a future time when Israel as a nation repents and is brought once again for the final time into permanent favor with God. You can readily discern these things if you carefully search out and follow the cross references given in the usual sources I have named before.

    We may have more agreement here than disagreement.

  12. a. way says:

    The Abrahamic covenant has not changed. It was to Abraham and his seed, singular. That seed was Jesus Christ. A Jew is not one who is one outwardly, but a Jew is one who is one inwardly. This has always been true. I agree, gentiles have nothing in this. But only those that are in Christ are heirs according to the promise. That this has ALWAYS been true. True Israel are true Christians. You used to call this replacement theology when in fact, it is YOU that is trying to replace the real covenant with Abraham. The NT has it right.

  13. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    You must believe in a god that changes and goes back on sworn covenants, something the true God clearly states He does not do.

    The New Testament indeed has it right. Paul wrote quite clearly in Romans 11:29, “For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable.” Did God call Israel? My Bible says He did. Are God’s covenants to Abraham and David irrevocable? My Bible says they are.

    But I explained all this in my post of November 5, 2013, above.

    Isaiah 55:3 says, “Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear and your soul shall live.”

    It would seem logical and a good and necessary inference that should anyone choose to not hear, their soul will not live.

    Isaiah 55:3 goes on to say further, “I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”

    Now, since you apparently deny the truth of this verse, if that is the case, you are among the many who willingly choose to not hear this word of God. Should this actually be the case, then it would seem a fair conclusion to be drawn from this declaration of Scripture that you have placed yourself among those who have chosen not to hear, and therefore, are included with those whose soul shall not live.

    I invite you to point out the flaw in my reasoning on this specific point.

    I do appreciate your continuing challenges and participation here. They have helped me dig deeper into the Bible. And that is of great help in pinpointing where more cross references are needed to assist understanding the Bible more accurately.

  14. a. way says:

    The Lord said to Abraham, after he had reached the land of Canaan, “Unto thy seed will I give this land.” If we but hold to the Scriptures we shall not have a moment’s difficulty in ascertaining who the seed is. “Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.” Gal 3:16 This ought for ever to settle the matter, so that there could be no dispute about it. The seed of Abraham, to whom the promise was made is Christ. He is the heir.

  15. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    Your persistent responses have been a tremendous blessing to me. I have already determined to go back and re-study Galatians 3:16. Of course I studied that text in turn when I worked on expanding the cross references for the book of Galatians. But I did not focus with any great degree of particularity on that verse. My discussions online at the Logos Forum and at another semi-associated forum (I posted the discussion thread here in connection with my review of the Logos 5 software edition of Peters’ three-volume work on The Theocratic Kingdom earlier this year) and your own comments on Galatians 3:16 have me convinced I need to re-study the issue.

    I discovered (as I have continued to work on expanding the cross references for Bible study) additional ways to find more cross references than I knew about before.

    So, thank you again for your always kind encouragement to dig deeper.

  16. a. way says:

    Might I suggest that you use the Bible only to do your review Galatians 3:16 and not rely on any other person’s writing. Truly go to your desert island with NO preconceived ideas. Don’t let Darby confuse you.

  17. Jerry says:

    Dear A. Way,

    I have been working hard on my major project to expand the cross references available for Bible study. I might be able to finish James 4 tonight.

    I have almost never consulted Darby in my studies. I do have a hard copy of his complete writings and perhaps three separate printed indexes to them. But his writing style does not appeal to me, for like many nineteenth century writers, they are often harder to read and take a while to get to their point.

    I think I will largely follow your advice. I started studying Galatians 3:16 last week or the week before. I plan to see if the process I usually use to expand the number of cross references for a verse can apply to Galatians 3:16 so as to interpret Scripture by Scripture.

    Since I am now working on James, you may safely assume I already completed my usual process for Galatians. But I keep learning more as I go along, so I think it will be profitable for me to check out Galatians 3:16 more thoroughly than I understood how to do before.

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