Nonsense in the News–Again

The Freedom From Religion Foundation is at it again.

They are nothing but schoolyard bullies. They pick on small school districts, districts that have neither the time nor resources to defend their position.

I have challenged the Freedom from Religion Foundation on this site to come have a debate with me. They won’t do it. Why? Probably because they cannot win an argument with an informed and experienced Bible believing Christian debater, author, and Bible scholar. But they are most certainly encouraged to visit here and raise a fuss.

Their attorney is Patrick Elliott. I’ve debated attorneys before–and won. So I invite Attorney Patrick Elliott to participate here in an open no-holds-barred discussion by submitting his comments defending his wrongful action against the Muldrow, Oklahoma school district in the comments section below.

The article states in part:

From an Internet Fox news article titled “Students Fight Back to Save Ten Commandments”:

The controversy surrounds Ten Commandment plaques are that are posted in a number of classrooms at Muldrow High School. It’s unclear when the plaques were installed.

Ron Flanagan, the superintendent of the local school district, told Fox News they had received a complaint about the Ten Commandments from the Freedom From Religion Foundation – an organization that has a long history of targeting displays of the Christian faith in public schools.

The complaint was allegedly filed by an “anonymous” member of the community.

“If the facts are as presented to us, and the Ten Commandments are on display throughout Muldrow Public Schools, the displays must be removed immediately,” wrote FFRF attorney Patrick Elliott, in a letter to the school district.

The FFRF said the displays are a “flagrant violation of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. “Any student will view a Ten Commandments display in school as being endorsed by the school,” Elliott wrote. “Muldrow Public Schools promotion of the Judeo-Christian Bible and religion over non-religion impermissibly turns any non-Christian or non-believing student, parent or staff member into an outsider.”

My further comments:

The students plan to wear T-shirts with the Ten Commandments emblazoned to school each day. One student from the school
remarked in a comment posted below the article that the Ten Commandment Plaques in the classrooms at the school are very small and unobtrusive and surely need not bother anyone.

As others commented, you can choose to read them or not.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation has it all wrong. The First Amendment does not provide any right for anyone to be free from religion. That was NOT the intention of the Founding Fathers. If the FFRF thinks otherwise, they have not done their homework in reading and learning American history. I have. I taught American history and early American literature for much of my nearly 40-year career as a public school teacher at the high school level.

Posting the Ten Commandments anywhere is NOT an Establishment of Religion, as the Freedom from Religion Foundation ignorantly claims. The Supreme Court building itself has the Ten Commandments engraved upon its walls. Clearly the people who founded this country did not see that as being a violation of the Constitution or Bill of Rights. That the Supreme Court may have ruled that posting the Ten Commandments is an “establishment of religion” does not make it so. Sometimes those Nine Men in black robes can be very mistaken, and sometimes quite ignorant indeed. The meaning of “an Establishment of Religion” is that the Federal government may not support a national Established Church, such as was and is done in England and some other European countries. The Founding Fathers did not want public money used to support a particular official national Christian denomination, such as the Anglican Church.

And just which “religion” is being “established” by posting the Ten Commandments? Or, more specifically, just which denomination is being established? The Baptist? Methodist? Anglican? Lutheran? The answer is, “none of the above.”

The First Amendment has been wildly misinterpreted by the humanists, atheists, and agnostics who do not appreciate the moral law being made known, since they favor a society that flaunts the moral law.

But they work very hard to force their immoral worldview upon our children in public school, to the point where Sodomy is given protected legal status.

It is the Humanists who have made sure that Darwinian Evolution is taught in public schools. Disagree? Read their journal, and study the Humanist Manifesto. Humanism and atheism are themselves religions, and I recall that even the Supreme Court in a decision affirmed this to be so. Once in a while the Supreme Court gets something right, though not too often. Those who believe in evolution believe that everything there is originally came from nothing. Evolution (when the term is not confused with mere “change,” a handy logical ploy and fallacy called equivocation) is not science, but philosophy. And most atheists and scientists and science teachers do not know the difference. Neither do the courts at any level or the justices of the Supreme Court.

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Fight terrorism with REAL terror

The Bible furnishes the only real answer to terrorism. Whether the terrorism be Islamic or Muslim terrorism, or terrorism of any other kind, such as that promoted by those who support the so-called “gay” agenda, the Bible gives the only real and ultimate answer that works.

Our government as a whole, and every branch in it, is not the solution to the problem, it is the problem. It is the problem because government no longer represents the people. It no longer follows the law, particularly the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

The Orwellian-named “Department of Homeland Security,” like the so-called “Patriot Act,” does nothing and can do nothing to provide security. They are designed to create dependency on government. They are designed to foster more big government. Protecting freedom and individual rights named in the Bill of Rights are the furthest thing from their minds.

The Apostle Paul said the following:

2 Corinthians 5:11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Atheists have launched a full attack upon Christians in the military who share their faith with others:

In an interview with Fox News, Weinstein said the military needs to begin prosecuting Christians who share their faith.

“Someone needs to be punished for this,” he said. “Until the Air Force or Army or Navy or Marine Corps punishes a member of the military for unconstitutional religious proselytizing and oppression, we will never have the ability to stop this horrible, horrendous, dehumanizing behavior.”

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/05/atheist-accuses-christians-of-treason-over-beliefs/#KoxguD3GMx1ukFyz.99

Mr. Mikey Weinstein, representing the atheist group, the Military Religious Freedom organization, called the sharing of one’s religious faith with others a species of spiritual rape as serious an affront as physical sexual rape. Mr. Weinstein is apparently a Pentagon consultant for religious freedom. Mr. Weinstein condemns Dr. James Dobson but supports the Southern Poverty Law Center. I think Mr. Weinstein has disqualified himself as a consultant worthy of any credence at all by his outrageous charges against people of faith.

But back to the terrorism we really need.

This country is in the spiritual mess that it is in because too few Christians are sharing their faith with others.

The “world” is scared stiff of genuine, Biblical Christianity. Yes, old-fashioned Biblical Fundamentalism. But that is the only true Christianity there is.

Old fashioned Biblical Fundamentalism believes the Bible is the verbally inspired written Word of God. It believes Jesus Christ was born of a virgin. It believes we got here by direct Divine Creation by the act of God. It believes that Jesus is the only way to God because Jesus said so in John 14:6. It believes in interpreting the Bible literally (and otherwise in accordance with the 23 Rules of Interpretation I’ve placed in the October 2010 archives here). It believes we are saved by faith alone through grace alone. It believes Jesus Christ is God the Son. It believes Jesus Christ will literally return bodily to this earth first to receive His own, then to set up His eternal kingdom on this earth which will last forever. It believes that Jesus commanded us to preach and teach the Gospel to every creature. It believes the Gospel message is to be found only in the Bible’s sixty-six books, nowhere else. It believes Jesus Christ literally rose bodily from the dead the third day, and that this constitutes full proof that God approves what Jesus taught, and that Jesus is who He claimed to be, and Who the Bible says He is. It believes that true faith in Jesus Christ produces regenerative change in the life and character of everyone who truly believes in Him, and that this regenerative change produces holiness of life and the fruit of the Spirit in confirmation of that change through the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. It believes unflinchingly and uncompromisingly that all who die without faith in Christ shall suffer the penalty of eternal, never ending, everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46).

Paul said, “Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men.”

Now that is what terrorizes some of those who are lost.

They want the truth suppressed.

Bible truth does not sit well with their chosen lifestyle.

But if everyone who believes the Bible and truly knows Christ as Savior would obey God and be ready to provide an answer with gentleness and respect to everyone who asks of their faith, this would unleash once again the greatest campaign of real Biblical terror since the Apostolic Church, when the Apostles were said by their enemies to be the ones who have “turned the world upside down.” They did that without the printing press, without modern technology, electricity, or transportation. We need to unleash the power of the Gospel by sharing it with those who are willing to listen just like they did. Christians who win souls according to the directions given in the Bible do not force themselves on others, but they do share the truth about Jesus Christ and Who He is with others.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

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National Day of Prayer

I received an email today from Andrea Lafferty of the Traditional Values Coalition which contained in part the following:

Today marks the 62nd National Day of Prayer.  America needs it more than ever.

 

Today — or perhaps tonight with your family — take a moment to pray for our country.

 

Pray for national healing.

Pray for spiritual revival,  for a sense of renewal and encouragement.

Pray that America might turn its face back to God. 

Pray that God will continue to protect America.

Pray for those who keep America safe.

Pray for our children and grandchildren, that we might leave an America worthy of inheritance.

Pray for our elected officials, that God may grant them wisdom.

Pray for those who are lost.

Pray for those who are searching.

Pray for those who are tempted.

Pray for the faithful, that they may remain strong in their faith.

Pray for an America that once again can be proud of its faith, its institutions, and its leaders.

 

It is not easy to be a Christian in today’s America.  It is all the more reason why we have a responsibility — and a unique privilege — to stand tall for American values today.

 

There is much in the Bible to guide us in our prayer life. God still answers prayer, and is delighted when His children speak to Him by means of prayer, and listen to Him by means of reading His written word in the Bible.

There are many Bible promises pertaining to prayer. I have always found Luke 11:9 to be an encouragement to prayer, ever since I was in elementary school. That must have been one of the first verses I noticed in my own reading of the Bible as a child. One could certainly be blessed and encouraged by reading the cross references for this verse as given in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge or Nelson’s Cross Reference Guide to the Bible.

I believe the indexes in The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge provide the most complete resource for studying prayer in the Bible to be found anywhere.

Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
Luk 11:10   For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened

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14 Proofs for Continuing Consciousness After Death Part 3

(10) Robinson was reading in the Bible the other morning and in Numbers 27:16 he found a most interesting expression that proves conscious existence after death:

Numbers 27:15 And Moses spake unto the LORD, saying,
Numbers 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation,

He thought he read something just like that a few chapters back, and after a bit of a search, found Numbers 16:22,

Numbers 16:22 And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?

He reasoned that “spirits” must represent an immaterial entity within man, not identified as part of his physical body, but a separate conscious entity.

(11) The expressions used in Zechariah 12:1 prove conscious existence after death.

That seemed to be certain from what he read in Zechariah 12:1,

Zechariah 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Robinson took note of the fact that the Bible is a self-interpreting book, and he really didn’t feel all that lonely since he had God by his side, and three good Bibles to read, and plenty of undisturbed time to read them. The more he read, the more he understood, and the more he saw how it all fit together into a unified, noncontradictory whole, surely an evidence of the divine inspiration of the Bible.

Robinson realized that laying the foundations of the earth, stretching forth the heavens, and forming the spirit of man within him are all equally creative acts of God Himself. The spirit, therefore, is not merely breath or wind, which if so would demean the comparison, but the spirit is a conscious entity in man which survives the dissolution of the body.

The mistaken notion of some that Adam did not have a soul but is a soul, and that the soul is equivalent to the body, is therefore false. Those who believe that the soul and body are equivalent, teach that when the body dies, the soul dies too.

This is an error because those who teach that the soul can die fail to distinguish the kinds of death spoken of in Scripture. All is lumped into a single category: physical death.

This is an error because the Bible also speaks of spiritual death, which is not the annihilation or dissolution of the spirit (or the immaterial soul), but the condition of permanent separation from God after death of the body, or the condition in this life of not having a personal relationship with God based upon a saving knowledge and relationship to our Lord Jesus Christ.

This is an error because the penalty threatened by God for Adam’s disobedience was not physical death, though that may well have been an ultimate consequence, but spiritual death.

We know this because the emphasis present in the Hebrew text, also perceivable in English translation, by the presence of a common emphatic figure of speech, requires that in the very same day that Adam sinned, he would be subject to the penalty. There is nothing in the entire text of the book of Genesis to warrant considering “day” as a period of 1000 years. The immediate context forbids it.

That Adam and Eve suffered immediate consequences for their disobedience is evident because immediately they attempted to (1) hide from God and (2) cover their nakedness. This obvious conscious change or “break” in their relationship with God marks their immediate spiritual death or estrangement.

Did God leave them in that state of spiritual death?

Clearly not. He provided them with clothing made from the skins of animals, which required the shedding of blood of innocent life, a picture or type of the ultimate sacrifice which would be given for all mankind by Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, Who shed His blood on the Cross for our sins. This, of course, was in fulfillment of Bible prophecy and type, and the very first prophecy of this is given in Genesis 3:15, a promise given directly to Adam and Eve.

When we say Adam “was a soul,” this usage is only correct if we apply the category of lexical meaning for nephesh to this context that means “person,” a meaning frequently found in conjunction with nephesh.

One of the central principles of accurate Bible interpretation is that we must consider all that the Bible teaches about a subject before we draw our conclusions. Otherwise, our conclusions may be mistaken.

Another central principle of accurate Bible interpretation is that we must not over-generalize from a given text, or over-simplify from a given word. A word must be understood by taking into account all its occurrences and all its contexts, which requires a complete induction of the word prior to drawing conclusions about what it means or how it is used in general or specifically in a single passage.

To suggest “Adam did not have a soul” is unscriptural, a denial of the Biblical truth found in the New Testament asserted by Christ that the soul is an entity separate from the physical body:

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Notice carefully what Jesus said:

(1) It is possible for man to kill the body;
(2) It is NOT possible for man to kill the soul;

Conclusion: the soul is not the same entity as the body

(3) Jesus affirmed that the body can be killed;
(4) Jesus did NOT affirm that the soul can be killed;

Conclusion: the soul is immortal and survives the death of the body as a conscious entity

(5) Saying the body can be killed is not the same as saying the body can be destroyed;
(6) Jesus does NOT affirm that the soul will be killed–a different word is used;
(7) Jesus affirms that God can destroy the soul;

Affirming that the soul can be destroyed by God does not affirm that God will kill the soul

(8) The original language word for “kill” is never confused in Scripture with the term for “destroy”;
(9) While the original term for “destroy” can be used for “kill” with reference to this life, the term “kill” NEVER is used with reference to the state of existence or non-existence after the death of this physical life;

(12) Therefore, it is utterly false teaching to affirm that conscious life ceases with the death of the physical body. Jesus said so, and that is enough to satisfy Robinson Crusoe on the desert island where, thankfully, at least he is uninfluenced by the teaching of mistaken man-made religions, for he has only the plain Bible (well, three good Bibles) before him.

(13) Luke 20:35-36 teaches the conscious existence of spirit or soul.

If “death is the last enemy,” as expressed by Scripture (1 Corinthians 15:26), what kind of death is referenced?

Clearly, the reference is to physical death that pertains only to the body, for it is only the body that will experience resurrection.

The immaterial and conscious soul or spirit of man cannot experience physical death, only mortal creatures possessing physical bodies experience physical death.

The Biblical proof is seen in what Jesus said as recorded in Luke 20:35, 36,

Luke 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
Luke 20:36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Once the body has been resurrected and is thus in its glorified state (Philippians 3:21), it is no longer subject to physical death. Therefore, it cannot die any more.

In such a state, the resurrected saints are like the angels, Jesus said, which we know from other Scripture are spirits (Hebrews 1:7, 14), who are not subject to physical death.

But since we each have a spirit and soul which continues in consciousness after the physical death of the body (in the light of the 12 prior strands of evidence or proof given above), the spirit of man is likewise deathless and not subject to physical death, and conscious, just as the angels as spirits are (Luke 20:25, 36).

I would also call attention to the fact that this statement of Jesus from Luke 20:35, 36 is recorded as part of His refutation of the Sadducees, who did not believe in spirit (Acts 23:8) or resurrection, or consciousness after death. Jesus told them plainly that they were greatly in error, not knowing the Scriptures, neither the power of God (Mark 12:24). Clearly, anyone who agrees with the Sadducees disagrees with our Lord Jesus Christ. I surely would not wish to be siding with the position of those who were the enemies of Jesus Christ.

I would hasten to add that many holding to materialist theology today say they believe in the future resurrection of the body, unlike the Sadducees in the days of Jesus. Yet even they are in actual denial of genuine resurrection, for they deny the continuity of the person in consciousness after death, believing, therefore, in a newly created copy of the original person at the resurrection, not the continuation and bodily resurrection of the original person.

(14) Recall also that Paul affirmed that to be “absent from the body” is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:8). Now how can one be said to be absent from the body unless one still consciously exists while not being in the body? Paul is taking for granted that when we die, our spirit returns to God who gave it and is in the blessed and conscious presence of Christ.

Remember, bodies sleep, souls and spirits do not!

Returning to the opening text of this three-part series, Luke 23:43, I would have every reader here carefully observe that all who properly followed Christ believed in conscious existence after death, and Jesus affirmed it unmistakably for all time when he promised the penitent thief on the cross that the thief would be with Jesus in paradise, which the NT strictly equates with heaven, on that very day.

Come on–for any who believe otherwise–if you did not have an annihilationist axe to grind, you would see this and admit it in a minute once the truth was brought to your attention. Talk about who refuses to relinquish their hold upon proven false doctrines!

The promise to the thief on the cross becomes totally meaningless if one must believe he was that very day with Christ in an unconscious state! The poor penitent thief would never know even yet whether Jesus proffered a false promise or a true one, because he would not be alive or sensible to experience it! Such a position is obviously a monstrous lie, and a dishonoring denial of the promise Jesus gave.

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14 Proofs for Immediate and Continuing Consciousness After Death Part 2

I believe that we can directly discern from Scripture itself that:

(1)  From the case of the penitent thief on the cross and the promise Jesus made that he would be that day with Jesus in Paradise, we can draw the conclusion that there must be immediate or continuing consciousness after death for:

 

a) it would make no sense whatsoever to read this promise as an unconscious meeting or existence in Paradise (which I firmly believe the Bible equates with heaven, or “the third heaven,” as Paul expresses it elsewhere, 2 Corinthians 12:2, compared with 2 Corinthians 12:4, where paradise is clearly equated to the “third heaven” mentioned in verse 2).

 

b) The promise Jesus gave to the thief clearly represents a promise of immediate experience to take place that very day, so this is not a reference to future bodily resurrection, but conscious fellowship and enjoyment of reward to be immediately experienced after they both that day suffered bodily death.

 

c) I personally think, now that I’ve presented an argument I never read or wrote before (though no doubt others have presented it better than I have), this argument in itself is sufficient to prove the case for conscious existence after death. But I won’t stop with this one!

 

(2) There is very good reason to believe that Paul, when he indicated his desire to depart and be with Christ, which he said would be “far better,” indicates he anticipated immediate conscious communion and fellowship with Jesus Christ upon his own physical death (see Philippians 1:23).

“For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:” (Philippians 1:23)

a) Since Philippians is surely to be dated after 2 Corinthians (this can be proven conclusively by evidence internal to the New Testament itself by means of the undesigned coincidences Paley discusses in his book Horae Paulinae which translated, I understand, means “hours with Paul”), then Paul surely had direct experience of the fact that whatever it is that may be going on in the third heaven, things he said were unlawful for him to utter (2 Corinthians 12:4), yet these things surely gave direct evidence to him that life there is conscious, not unconscious.

 

b) Paul never affirms that the spirits of just men made perfect (Hebrews 12:23) are all there sleeping and unconscious of where they are. Of course, we don’t have any explicit statement of just who spoke those “unspeakable words” Paul heard in Paradise, but somebody was up there with whom he talked.

 

c) Therefore, Paul’s statement in Philippians 1:23 could not have reference to his being in an unconscious state unaware of the passing of time, awaiting the resurrection, for then how could that logically be “far better,” since if so, everyone upon death would have the same experience. I don’t think Paul means for us to believe he had a “death wish,” for if you read about his career in 2 Corinthians 11 he surely went through much tribulation in his ministry for Christ. In the immediate context Paul emphasizes that he knew his ministry to them was more important than his private preference or wish. Paul is stressing that he truly looked forward eagerly for immediate fellowship with Jesus Christ in person. Recall that Scripture records at least one occasion, probably more, where Paul met or was directly confronted by our Lord Jesus Christ in person, the first instance being upon the Damascus Road (Acts 9), so he knew personally Who it was he longed to be with immediately and directly upon death.

 

(3) I think that 2 Corinthians 5:1-8, while surely a difficult and somewhat controversial passage, speaks to this very issue of immediate and continuing consciousness after the death of the body.

Paul speaks of our life in this body as being “our earthly house,” and that when this earthly house is dissolved by physical death, we “have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.” In this body we groan, but we look forward to being “clothed upon with our house which is from heaven,” which I think must be a reference to our glorified resurrection body. But verse 3 speaks of “If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked.” Is that the state, naked meaning without a physical body, which all who die experience upon death until the resurrection? I have assumed that perhaps we have a temporary body then until we receive our resurrected body. But whether we do or not, that question by no means negates the truth that after death we have continuing consciousness.

a) Nevertheless, Paul writes in 2 Corinthians 5:8, “We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” Now this cannot be twisted to mean that we experience this immediacy of being present with the Lord upon death because, allegedly unconscious, we are unaware of the passage of time, so we awake, at the resurrection, supposing no time intervened! That would not represent being “present with the Lord” during however long an interim of time that may turn out to be.

b) Once again, I believe this is another case of Paul inadvertently sharing what he personally knew for sure, based on the experience he speaks of in 2 Corinthians 12, and so represents a valid argument supporting immediate and continuing consciousness in heaven for the believer after the physical death of this body.

(4) The statement of Isaiah in Isaiah 63:16 about “though Abraham be ignorant of us” surely must indicate Isaiah by divine inspiration knew that Abraham was still alive, that Abraham was with God, that God was in heaven, and therefore Abraham and Jacob were in heaven, conscious, but unaware of what transpired here upon earth since their physical death. Otherwise, such a statement of Isaiah seems pointless or absurd, which of course, being the very word of God, it cannot be.

(5) Consciousness after death is affirmed emphatically by God’s address to Moses in the Burning Bush.

a) This is confirmed by God Himself when He spoke to Moses at the burning bush, saying, “I am the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob” (Exodus 3:6). This is further confirmed by Jesus when He explained that God speaking to Moses in this manner affirmed that Abraham was still living, stating that God is not the God of the dead, but of the living (see Mark 12:26, 27). Luke gives the fuller statement, “For he is not a God of the dead, but of the living: for all live unto him” (Luke 20:38). It was after this unanswerable and masterful argument against the Sadducees that Luke reports, “And after that they durst not ask him any question at all” (Luke 20:40).

b) The conclusion is clear and absolute: since “all live unto him,” all are conscious, not unconscious, after physical death.

(6) In 1 Thessalonians 4:14 Paul tells us “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.”

a) Somehow, I don’t envision this as Jesus coming with a Santa Claus sack or sleigh-full of unconscious spirits on the ready to join their physical bodies in resurrection on the spot just prior to the rapture and transformation of living believers into their glorified bodies.

b) Rather, those who accompany our Lord Jesus Christ upon His return to this earth for those believers who are then living on the earth most certainly (since they have been with Christ all the while) must also be conscious beings.

Robinson Crusoe had the advantage of no exterior human sources of how to interpret the Bible according to a certain denominational tradition, though Crusoe in the actual story by Daniel Defoe takes a few well-placed swipes at Calvinism’s rude doctrine of predestination. I recall all that since I just recently re-read the whole story for myself.

Crusoe, after rescuing or salvaging what he could from the abandoned sailor chests washed up on shore, or at least accessible not far from shore from the shipwreck, ended up with a total of “three good Bibles.” Apparently they were all plain-text Bibles, which fits the requirement precisely.

I don’t object, as you know, if on that island we have access to cross reference sources, grammars and lexicons, and concordances.

(7) Paul, when he visited heaven or paradise, as recorded in 2 Corinthians 12, was uncertain whether he was in the body or out of the body (2 Corinthians 12:2).

This clearly suggests that Paul’s experience demonstrates that he could not tell the difference, so consciousness continues when one is “out of the body,” which of course represents the experience of physical death, and Robinson Crusoe, having avidly read his Bible faithfully for an hour or two each morning before commencing his day’s tasks of keeping his garden, recalled that Paul was “left for dead” at Iconium, and experienced a remarkable and possibly miraculous resuscitation (Acts 14:19). Or was Paul just playing “‘possum”? Robinson was quite puzzled over this matter, because he had no commentaries or study Bibles with fallible human notes and doctrines to help him find the answer. Robinson did notice, though, that in several other places Paul makes use of the imagery of experiencing death in behalf of his service for Jesus Christ, as in 2 Corinthians 4:7-11. He saw that Paul leads right into an immediately following passage which directly addresses the certainty that “to be absent from the body” is “to be present with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:8) and one could hardly consider oneself to be “present” with Jesus Christ Himself if one were totally unconscious. That kind of cleared up Robinson’s question, and he found the answer without consulting a commentary or manual of church doctrine from any religious organization!

Robinson thought he recalled another allusion, or maybe direct mention, of the experience Paul had at Iconium, so he kept reading the next few mornings and found the spot in 2 Corinthians 11:23-25. Robinson thought to himself, “This is all beginning to take on a consistent contextual pattern. Look what I read clearly in the following chapter, 2 Corinthians 12.” So, as often happens in our own daily conversations, or even private thoughts (for quite a while Robinson had no one to talk to but himself), one thought leads to another related one. And so in part, we see this feature in the arrangement of what Paul wrote about in 2 Corinthians. Surely, 2 Corinthians 12 furnishes as much proof as one could desire to determine from the plain reading of Scripture that there is consciousness after death.

(8) Robinson Crusoe did some further reading in his three good plain-text Bibles and came to Luke 24:36-40.

Luke 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luke 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
Luke 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luke 24:40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Robinson Crusoe, meditating carefully about the passage, noted how emphatically Jesus affirmed that they were seeing Jesus himself, not merely a disembodied spirit or a spirit being taking on a temporary physical form. He remembered the similar emphatic statement from where he had been reading in Acts 1:11 and especially Acts 2:32, 36. Robinson was really getting to appreciate the benefit of his enforced solitude, for now he was able to take the time to really find out for himself what the Bible actually said about things.

Jesus, therefore, Robinson concluded, arose in the very same body in which he was crucified, but in its eternal or glorified form. Since Jesus emphasized that they were seeing Jesus himself, this was the same, not a recreated person, that died, proving the continuity of the person, and thus the continuing conscious existence of the man Christ Jesus even after the death upon the Cross until His resurrection three days later, for the Bible, Robinson knew, clearly tells us Jesus is still a man (1 Timothy 2:5).

(9)Belief in both spirit and angel on the part of both Paul and the Pharisees, not to mention Luke who records the incident reflected in Acts 23:8, proves the continuing consciousness of the person after the death of the body.

Mulling all this over in his mind, and seeing ever so many connections with other things he had been reading in his Bible, Robinson recalled that in Acts 23:8 “spirit” is mentioned in the same sense but distinguished from angels, so Robinson concluded that as angels are conscious beings, though they are spirits, so “spirits” must be conscious beings, being persons that sustain their existence after the death of the physical body. Robinson Crusoe thought, “Just one more piece of evidence that immediately after death we will enjoy a conscious experience of being instantly with Jesus Christ in fellowship with him in heaven.”

Robinson decided it was time for him to get back to work on his garden, and then get some lunch, and come back to these thoughts when he got more of his work done. He looked forward to the next opportunity to read further in his Bible.

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Luke 23:43 Revisited + 14 Proofs of Consciousness After Death Part 1

False doctrine abounds and needs to be refuted. Jude tells us to “contend for the faith once given to the saints.”

The Bible pointedly and clearly teaches that there is immediate consciousness after the death of our body. That is to say, our consciousness continues unbroken, uninterrupted.

(1). The case of the penitent thief on the cross and the promise Jesus made that the thief would be that day with Jesus in Paradise constitutes proof One for consciousness after death.

Luke 23:43 contains the promise of our Lord Jesus Christ to the Thief on the Cross:

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

For those few readers here who might be able to read the Greek text, here it is:

Luk 23:43 και ειπεν αυτω ο ιησους αμην λεγω σοι σημερον μετ εμου εση εν τω παραδεισω

Now, don’t faint, run away scared, or mad. I intend to explain this in a way that everyone can understand.

A very literal word-for-word English translation of the above Greek text would correctly read:

And said to-him [the] Jesus, Verily I-say to-thee, Today with me thou-shalt-be in Paradise.

I used square brackets “[...]” to indicate the presence of a Greek word which I translated which is not required in English, in this case involving the word “the.”

I joined English words with a hyphen when more than one word is used in English to translate a single Greek word.

The grammatical and idiomatic issue involves the placement of the word “Today.” For the text to properly mean “I say to thee today” the Greek word for “today” would have been placed before the verb I say, which then in a word-for-word literal English translation would in that case have read “Verily today I-say to-thee,” but no manuscript evidence for the Gospel of Luke in the sources I have here suggests any question about the placement or order of the word “Today” (Greek, σημερον). Just now, I am looking at the Greek text edited by Tregelles, page 366, the right hand lower column, which gives all the significant manuscript variations for this text.

Alford’s Greek text, volume 1, page 661, in its Greek apparatus immediately below the Greek text furnishes no readings which affect the word order under discussion.

Alford has this to say in his exegetical comments below, right hand column:

It is remarkable how, in three following sayings, the Lord appears as Prophet, Priest, and King: as Prophet, to the daughters of Jerusalem; –as Priest, interceding for forgiveness; –as King, acknowledged by the penitent thief, and answering his prayer.

43. αμην λεγω σοι…. The Lord surpasses his prayer in the answer; the αμην λεγω σοι σημερον, is the reply to the uncertain οταν ["when," Luke 23:42] of the thief.

σημερον this day: before the close of this natural day. The attempt to join it with λεγω σοι, considering that it not only violates common sense, but destroys the force of our Lord’s promise, is surely something worse than silly: see below.

μετ εμου εση can bear no other meaning than thou shalt be with Me, in the ordinary sense of the words, ‘I shall be in Paradise, and thou with Me.’

Checking Wordsworth’s Greek Testament, on page 251, Wordsworth states: “The penitent thief prayed to be remembered at that future time, however distant, when Christ should come in His kingdom. Christ rewarded his faith and good confession by a promise of immediate happiness. “To-day thou shalt be (i.e. thy human soul shall be with My human soul) in Paradise” (page 251, left column, top paragraph).

Tischendorf’s great eighth edition of his Novum Testamentum Graece, volume 1, pages 714, 715 contains a textual apparatus for this verse which occupies nearly a full page of fine print, but I see no reference to New Testament manuscript evidence to support a change in the word order involving “Today” that could support the view that it properly means “I say to you today, ….”

As Alford remarked, such a rendering is silly, and I would add, a trifling with the Word of God. Obviously Jesus was speaking to the thief on the cross that very day in which he spoke to him. It is clearly not the intention of the expression “today” to affirm when Jesus was speaking, but when the thief would be with Jesus himself in Paradise.

No further textual evidence beyond what I’ve already given is furnished by the Roman Catholic Joseph M. Bover S. J.’s Novi Testamenti Biblia Graeca et Latina on page 263, or the eighth edition of Augustinus Merk S. J.’s Novum Testamentum Graece et Latine, page 298; both sources give no variant readings from the Greek that pertain to the question under discussion pertaining to the meaning or placement of “Today.”

F. W. Grant comments on this passage that “…the Lord is answering a prayer in which a time wherein the thief sought to be remembered was expressed. He had said, ‘Lord, remember me when Thou comest in Thy kingdom.’ The Lord says virtually, ‘You shall not wait for that: today you shall be with Me.’ This is the simple, intelligible reason for the specification of time: ‘Today,’ not when I come merely, ‘shalt thou be with me in Paradise’” (F. W. Grant, Facts and Theories as to a Future State, page 148).

As for Paradise, A. T. Robertson, the great American Greek scholar, states “This Persian word was used for an enclosed park or pleasure ground (so Xenophon). The word occurs in two other passages in the N.T. (2 Corinthians 12:4; Revelation 2:7), in both of which the reference is plainly to heaven” (Robertson, Word Pictures, vol. 2, page 287).

I trust the scholarship I have cited and the plain statement of the text in Greek and English will put to rest once and for all the mistaken notion that there is a mistake in the punctuation of our standard English translations, the argument I’ve recently read in Seventh Day Adventist literature which discusses this verse. Those who argue for “I say to thee today, thou shalt be with me in Paradise” clearly do so for doctrinal reasons that are not supportable from the original Greek text’s meaning, idiom, and grammar.

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How long will Jesus reign on this earth?

Most of the preachers I hear on the radio or in the pulpit teach that Jesus will reign for 1000 years, a time called the Millennium.

If that is what you believe, you are flat-out wrong!

Books on Bible prophecy, and other works about the Bible, repeat this error.

The Bible plainly says, in words which cannot be mistaken, that Jesus Christ will reign forever on this earth.

Here is the plain Bible proof for the correct view:

(1) Luke 1:32, 33

Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luke 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

Some argue that the word “forever” is sometimes used in a limited sense. That is true, but not here. It cannot be used in its limited sense because (1) the reference is to the future age, the age to come, not this age; (2) the term “for ever” is backed up by an explanatory clause, “and of his kingdom there shall be no end.”

Jesus, therefore, will reign upon (not over!) this earth. We know that this reign must be upon this earth because it is in fulfillment of the Davidic Covenant. How do I know that? The text plainly says that Jesus will reign upon the throne of David. The throne of David is on this earth, not in heaven.

This little item of needful correction changes many things that we thought we knew when it comes to understanding Bible prophecy, or even the Bible at large.

The 1000 years of the Millennium does not mark the length of the reign of our Lord Jesus Christ upon this earth. It marks (1) the length of time Satan is bound; and (2) the time between the First Resurrection and the Second Resurrection.

The reign of our Lord Jesus Christ continues on this earth for ever, not just 1000 years. It is utterly wrong to speak of “the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ.” That is NOT what the Bible teaches.

It is about time ordinary Bible reading Christians, pastors, Bible teachers, and Christian writers got this straight!

Think I am wrong on this? I dare you to prove me wrong. On this point, it is virtually certain you cannot prove me wrong, but you are most welcome to try.

You know, if you’ve read much on this site, that I can be persuaded to change my mind in the light of better or more accurate evidence.

Are you able to change your mind on the basis of the very plain and incontrovertible evidence I just presented?

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Time to Address the Real Political Problem

Evidently the leadership in Washington, D.C. have their heads buried in the sand.

They did not learn fifth grade arithmetic.

They don’t know how to apply the “rule of 72,” and may not even know what it is.

Currently, President Obama is going to propose a budget plan that will propose a cut to Social Security benefits for seniors, veterans, and people with disabilities.

The President’s budget proposal would also require middle-class seniors–people who make $47,000 a year and more–to pay higher Medicare premiums.

No cuts in benefits to Social Security are acceptable. Those of us who are getting Social Security paid for it all our working lives.

Furthermore, Social Security retirement benefits should be reserved only for American citizens, not Mexican citizens, not illegal aliens who came across our borders illegally.

Here is where the problem lies:

The whole Federal Government would be solvent if we corrected the immoral and improper special privileges given to the medical industry:  they enjoy monopoly status and protection that is against the law for every other business endeavor.

That is what makes medical costs so high–they can charge what they want, and they are not subject to normal free market forces which would force prices down to what is proper. Why should the medical industry be able to jack up prices to an unreasonable degree (such as charging $30,000 for a medicine that can be purchased over-the-counter from the source in another country for $100)? Why should it be forbidden to buy prescription medicine with a valid prescription from another country at much lower cost just to keep up the medical industry’s obscene profits here? If the hospital costs to have a baby in 1963 had grown only at the rate of our general inflation, it would cost about $1000 or so today for this procedure which is done millions of times a year; at reasonable costs, most medical procedures could be paid for out-of-pocket by most citizens without the extra expense of insurance, which ought to be reserved to cover rare catastrophic expenses.

This monopoly must be stopped now to avoid bankrupting the entire country.

I trust our politicians and representatives and senators understand the mathematics of the “rule of 72.” At annual increases of 9%, the cost of Medicare and Medicaid doubles every 8 years. And these costs have been doubling every eight years since the early 1980s. We CANNOT afford even one more such doubling–it would use up every dollar the Federal Government gets with nothing left over for anything else in the budget. Quit being blockheaded and absurd and ADDRESS THIS PROBLEM NOW.

It is very clear to me that we have very evil leadership in this country–leadership that has been criminally and immorally been bought off by the medical industry’s lobbyists with substantial gifts to re-election campaigns of our senators and representatives–who thereby are paid to represent the medical industry and not the constituents who elected them.

The Bible says much about evil leaders and leadership in the book of Proverbs.

It also warns against those who constantly promote “change” for just “change’s sake” to advance their nefarious political and social agendas.

The President’s mantra, “Change you can believe in,” is a diabolical oxymoron. Check out this Bible verse:

“My son, fear thou the Lord and the king:  and meddle not with them that are given to change” (Proverbs 21:24)

We have an utter lack of moral backbone and moral leadership in Washington in all three branches of government and both political parties, and there are NO exceptions, because none of those in Washington are speaking out and sounding the alarm about this most serious issue of impending financial collapse that confronts us right now.

I remember Dr. Bob Jones, Senior speaking of those “dirty compromisers” many years ago. That is just what we have not only in Washington, but likely in many other places too. They are even present in our churches, even our so-called Evangelical churches, if the polls are correct. I heard just this past week or so that 60% of Evangelical believers and Evangelical pastors do not believe that Jesus Christ is God. If that is the case, they need to drop the label of Evangelical or Bible-believing Christian, because they aren’t! They are what Dr. Bob called “dirty compromisers,” and no Christian has any business giving any kind of support to such leadership in the church.

Did you forget this verse is in the Bible?–

“Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the Lord? therefore is wrath upon thee from before the Lord” (2 Chronicles 19:2)

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Religious Extremism–According to the Southern Poverty Law Center

 

At the top of their list:

(1) Evangelical Christianity (U.S./Christian)

(2) Muslim Brotherhood (Egypt/Islam)

(3) Ultra-Orthodox (Israel/Judaism)

(4) Christian Identity (U.S./Christian)

(5) Al Quaeda (Transnational/Islam)

(6) Hamas (Palestinian/Islamist)

(7) Abu Sayyah (Philippines/Islam)

(8) Ku Klux Klan (U.S./Christian)

(9) SRI Ram Sene (India/Hinduism)

(10) Catholicism (U.S./Christian)

(11) Kahane Movement (Israel/Jewish)

(12) Army of God (U.S./Christian)

(13) Sunni Muslims (Iraq/Islam)

(14) Nation of Islam (U.S./Islam)

(15) Jewish Defence League (U.S./Judaism)

(16) Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (U.S./Mormon)

(17) Hutaree (U.S./Christian)

 

Well, so much for the list put out by the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center).

The Southern Poverty Law Center might be Southern, but it does not seem to be about either “poverty” or “law.”

The SPLC has appointed itself an expert about religion, apparently. They surely know nothing about the Bible.

The Federal Government, state and local police agencies, and the U.S. Military take what the SPLC says about those it identifies as “hate groups” as Gospel Truth, for they use the SPLC materials in their training.

See the article at World Net Daily:

http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/04/military-warned-evangelicals-no-1-threat/

If the U.S. Government is dumb enough to depend on such a group for guidance, it ought to be dismantled and replaced with a conservative and Constitutional government that follows the Bill of Rights and the Bible (the source of “natural law”) as intended and recommended by our Founding Fathers.

 

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We Know Them by Their Fruits

In the news tonight, I read that Saudi Arabia has declared there are to be no churches in its land, or in the Arabian peninsula.

The leading Islamic cleric in Saudi Arabia declared churches should be burned.

There is NO religious freedom in fully Islamic countries.

That must be because the Devil, or Satan, does not want any competition. After all, he is the “father of lies” (John 8:44).

Satan is also the author of false religions. False religions can be readily identified:  they contradict the Bible, which is the only genuine written Word of God.

Islam is a false religion because it contradicts the Bible when it teaches that God has no son.

Even the Old Testament declares God has a son in the Second Psalm:

Psa 2:7

 

  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Psa 2:12

 

  Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

Pro 30:4

 

  Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?

 

The New Testament very clearly teaches the same truth:

Mat 3:16

 

  And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

 

Mat 3:17

 

  And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Joh 3:16

 

  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Perhaps the most famous verse in the Bible, John 3:16, clearly declares that God has a Son.

Now let it be very clear:  any religion that teaches contrary to what the Bible states is a false religion.

Islam denies God has a son.

Therefore, since Islam teaches contrary to what the Bible teaches, Islam must be a totally false religion.

The attitude those of the Islamic faith have to those of other faiths demonstrates that their faith is not true to what God’s Word teaches should be our attitude towards others.

The religion of Islam does not permit its followers to learn the truth from the Bible and believe in our Lord Jesus Christ. Muslims who convert to Christianity face the death penalty in Islamic countries.

So much for freedom of religion. Islamic nations do not believe in such basic human rights and freedoms.

On Judgment Day those who follow Islam, no matter how sincere, will learn the awful truth that they have followed the broad road that leads to destruction, not the narrow road that leads to life.

No wonder Jesus taught that there are few who are on the right road, the narrow road, for he said of eternal life, “few there be that find it.”

If you have not been reading and studying the Bible, chances are good that you too are on the wrong road.

The solution to that is obvious–start reading, studying, and believing the Bible.

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