Did Jesus know everything at the same time He didn’t know everything?

The Nugget:

Joh 21:17  He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 

My Comment:

Peter recognized that Jesus “knew all things.” Peter understood that Jesus knew everything. This is the Bible doctrine of the Omniscience of Christ. My elderly friend “Uncle Frank” now many years ago used to ask the question, “Is Jesus God?” Most knew the answer and responded “Yes.” Then Uncle Frank asked a follow-up question, “Does God know everything?” Even children got that one right and answered “Yes.” Then Uncle Frank asked the question, “Did Jesus know when He was coming back?” This one was and is a much tougher question. The correct answer is “No.” Uncle Frank and I discussed this question many times. We thought then that most likely Jesus chose not to know. That may be the one thing the Father has kept as a very close secret. But that does not negate the Omniscience of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The Muslim Response to My Answer of Yesterday:

Am sorry that u had to make it long when answers should be simple, anyone who will read your answer will know you havent answered my question, but you are only trying to bring me verses from the bible that supports that jesus is god, please read the question understand then answer, am not being rude mr smith but its the truth. See the question and answer it the way it is, no need to start giving me verses which support he is god

My Response and Answers to the Rest of the Questions:

Amin Imran, please be patient. I am not finished yet. You did NOT ask ONE question. You asked several. Do you want answers or not? Are you seeking the truth or are you just playing games? What may appear to you to be a simple question may well turn out to be a complex matter when I address the issues you have raised carefully. Now I suggest, before you offer any more complaints about my answers, that you go back and read what I have posted several times until you grasp the truth of what I answered. Obviously, to be valid, my answers must be based on what the Bible teaches. So please do not criticize me for appealing to the evidence the Bible provides.
 
(2) Was Jesus finite and infinite at the same time? Yes.
 
Jesus possessed two natures at the same time. He was a human being, a man, born of the Virgin Mary. He was also divine, for in becoming a human being He did not lose His divine nature. In Christian theology, this is called the doctrine of the Incarnation.
 
The human nature of Christ was in some sense finite. The divine nature of Christ was of course infinite. Both natures are evident in the Gospel account as given in John 3:13,
 
John 3:13  And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 
 
In His human nature Jesus at the time He spoke these words in John 3:13 was on this earth. Jesus claimed while He was speaking here on earth that He IS in heaven at the same time, which reflects the fact of His divine and infinite nature.
 
(3) Was He fallible and infallible at the same time?  NO. Jesus was NEVER fallible. He was always infallible. Jesus never sinned. Jesus never made a mistake.
 
John 8:46  Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
 
(4) “So he felt hungry and not hungry at the same time because GOD doesn’t eat or feel hungry.”
 
This is not a question but an assertion on your part. Your assertion is misguided and mistaken.
 
Was Jesus truly human? Yes. As a human did Jesus feel hunger? Yes. The Bible teaches that Jesus was tested in all points just like we are but he passed the test and did not sin.
 
Heb 4:15  For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
 
In His divine nature, Jesus could not suffer hunger. That Jesus always possessed a divine nature is taught throughout the whole Bible. I already furnished you PROOF of the Deity of Christ as taught by the New Testament, taught directly and indirectly, in my answer to the first part of your question above.
 
(5) “Did he know everything at the same time he didn’t know everything?”
 
Jesus was fully omniscient.
 
John 21:17  He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep. 
 
Notice that Peter acknowledged the omniscience of Jesus Christ when He said, “Lord, thou knowest all things.”
 
I already gave you proof of the omniscience of Christ in my first answer to your first question as evidence of the deity of Christ. Other Bible verses which show the omniscience of Christ include John 2:24, 25; John 11:14 (Jesus knew Lazarus was dead before anyone brought Him word of the death of Lazarus, and days before He got there with His disciples); Matthew 9:4 (Jesus knew their thoughts); Matthew 11:21 (Jesus asserted He knew how the historical outcome of a long-past event would have turned out differently had those people heard His word and seen His miracles); Matthew 17:24-27 (Jesus knew what had been discussed before Peter arrived and knew where to find the required money to pay the tax He and Peter owed–in the mouth of a fish Jesus knew would come along and bite Peter’s fish hook and give up a coin of the right value to pay the tax).
 
One thing Jesus stated He did not know, and that was the exact time when He would return. The best explanation I have learned is that Jesus did not know this fact because the Father determined not to share this information with anyone else, even the angels. This does not negate all the other evidence we are given in the Bible that demonstrates the omniscience of Christ.
 
(6) “Did he worship to God at the same time be worshiped?”
 
This question takes us back to the issue of the two natures of Christ, His divine nature, and His human nature.
 
In His human nature while on earth our Lord Jesus Christ prayed to the Father as “my Father,” and referred to God as “my God.” He offered thanks in prayer to God. Jesus as man worshipped His Father, Who is God.
 
But while He was here on earth “in the flesh” in human form, He also continued to possess His divine nature. I see no problem or contradiction in that fact of Scripture.
 
It is also true that while Jesus was here on earth as a human being, a man, He received worship.   
 
Mat 14:33  Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. 
 
John 5:23
23  That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
King James Version

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Was Jesus Divine Yet Human?

The Nugget:

Titus 2:13  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; 

My Comment:

Notice that Paul in Titus 2:13 calls Jesus Christ both God and Savior. In the Greek text this is stronger and more evident than in the English translation. This is an example of Jesus Christ being directly and unequivocally called God in the New Testament.

By the rule of necessary inference Titus 2:13 also teaches and confirms the doctrine of the Rapture. Like the subject of the Trinity, which this verse also confirms, the exact word we use to name the doctrine is not used in the Bible text, but by necessary inference the truth of the doctrine is certainly there.

Once we establish the doctrine of the Deity of Christ, we have verified the doctrine of the Trinity by necessary inference.

The Muslim Question:

Was Jesus Divine yet human? was he finite and then infinite at the same time? that he was fallible and infallible at the same time? So he felt hungry and not hungry at the same time because GOD doesn’t eat or feel hungry. Did he know everything at the same time he didn’t know everything? Did he worship to God at the same time be worshiped? HELP ME PLEASE

My Original Comment:

It is all quite plainly told in the Bible. If you will read the New Testament carefully you may begin to understand these truths.

The Muslim Response:

We don’t comment because you want to comment, you comment when you know the answer because I can’t see any answer. If you know the verses why not bring them here please

My Answer:

Amin Imran, thank you for asking. I will be very happy to answer your questions and give you the relevant Bible verses.
 
While some Christians may suggest these things are “mysteries,” I don’t see them that way at all. They are plainly stated in the Bible.
 
(1) Was Jesus Divine yet human?  Yes.
 
The divinity or deity of Jesus Christ is taught by the New Testament and the Bible as a whole both directly and indirectly. What is taught indirectly I define as things we know from what the Bible says by the rule of “necessary inference.”
 
A. Directly
 
John 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
 
Notice that Whoever it is that is here called “the Word” is stated to be God.
 
Applying the rule of interpreting according to context, we learn that this Person called “the Word” became flesh and dwelled among us, and that this person is identified as Jesus Christ:
 
John 1:14  And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 
Joh 1:15  John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. 
Joh 1:16  And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. 
Joh 1:17  For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
 
John 20:25  The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. 
Joh 20:26  And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you. 
Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. 
Joh 20:28  And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 
Joh 20:29  Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. 
 
Thomas, one of the twelve apostles of Jesus, did not believe what the other apostles told him, namely, that Jesus had risen from the dead and they had personally seen Him. Thomas was absent when Jesus had appeared in person.
 
This time, Thomas was present when Jesus entered the locked room where they all had gathered. Jesus addressed the doubts of Thomas and gave him the direct evidence Thomas had told the other apostles he required before he would believe.
 
Thomas believed the evidence and responded to Jesus Christ, recognizing that He was both his Lord and his God when Thomas said, “My Lord and my God.”
 
This is direct evidence that the apostles now understood who Jesus really is:  both their Lord and their God.
 
Any attempt to reduce this great confession of faith on the part of Thomas to a mere exclamation represents a failure on the part of those who do that to understand the scope and purpose of the Gospel of John, as stated by John in the very next verses:
 
Joh 20:30  And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 
Joh 20:31  But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
 
Titus 2:13
13  Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
King James Version
 
Notice that Jesus Christ is called “the great God” and also “our Savior.”
 
The grammar of Titus 2:13 both in English but especially in Greek requires that we understand in this passage that Jesus Christ is here called God.
 
B. Indirectly
 
Mar 2:5  When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee. 
Mar 2:6  But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts, 
Mar 2:7  Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only? 
 
Only God can forgive sins. Jesus on this occasion proved that He had the power to forgive sins by demonstrating that He had the power to heal. Those in the audience believed that only God could heal.
 
Mar 2:8  And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts? 
Mar 2:9  Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk? 
Mar 2:10  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,) 
Mar 2:11  I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house. 
Mar 2:12  And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion. 
 
On this occasion Jesus Christ demonstrated His Deity two ways:  (1) He perceived what they were thinking, showing that Jesus Christ possessed the divine attribute of omniscience;  (2) He forgave the paralytic his sins, something only God can do, then demonstrated he had that power by healing the man before their very eyes. By the interpretive rule of “necessary inference,” Jesus demonstrated His deity publically where all those present could see the evidence for themselves that Jesus was God in human flesh.
 
There are several more parts to your question, and I am happy to answer those also, but I did not want to make this comment too long.

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How to stop the school shootings

 

There really are sensible, practical, and effective solutions staring us in the face.

Individual students and teachers surely were aware of potential issues with this student. The student came from a difficult background. The student complained of being upset at being bullied.

The direct answer I found as a teacher was to encourage my students to write frequently. I shared with them proverbs and quotations daily to help them focus on better values and moral principles. I had them write what I called “Proverb Interpretation Compositions” and “Proverb Application Compositions.” My students told me verbally and in writing that this assignment “turned their lives around.”

I learned right away as a new teacher that if I failed to reach a student while he or she was in my class, that student might be headed for great difficulty in life, starting with dropping out of school.

If we learn the truth that every person is worth more than the whole world, as Jesus clearly taught, then we will hold each person in the highest regard. We will value every person supremely. We will do everything we can to reach out to every student and connect in a way that will bring out the best in them. When students observed and experienced that I really cared for each of them they usually responded positively. Some did not. It was my hope then and now that they would be reached by another teacher who had contact with them.

This is a most important issue. For many students who seem to end up on the “bad side” of life, the real issue is that they have not been successful in learning to read well.

I solved that problem for my struggling students by writing my own self-instructional reading program. I wrote it that way so they could do the work without my constant help.

I know that when I was allowed to use this program it transformed the attitudes and lives of my students because they showed remarkable improvement in reading comprehension and experienced success in all their other classes too.

When I taught world and American history at Southeastern High School I was given a box of 8 textbooks, not all the same title, to teach five classes of 35 or more students. Fortunately, I had a wonderful department head, Mr. Mercer, who granted me permission to do anything I could to help my students.

I wrote and typed up my own teaching materials. I placed them in sheet protectors and little binders to make what I called “selections” at my own expense. I typed up my self-instructional reading program in this loose leaf sized format. It had been in a 3 x 5 card format until then.

One day, the school principal called me into his office and showed me his latest copy of his principal’s notes. They contained a report at showed Southeastern High School had shown the greatest improvement in reading achievement of Detroit’s 22 high schools. He told me that improvement was traced to my history class students. He said he wanted to appoint me to the position of Reading Specialist. He wanted me to teach reading in a special program. I refused to take the position because I wanted to remain under Mr. Mercer’s supervision. The principal repeated the requests, and the third time I agreed with the stipulation that I was to be free to create my own materials and not be required to use the materials supplied by the Detroit Board of Education. I also requested that the English Department Head be kept off my back. The principal agreed.

I was given the supposedly lowest-achievement students who were at the greatest risk of dropping out. In fact, I was told that most of the students assigned to my new program would probably drop out before the end of the semester.

The first question my new classes asked me was, “Mr. Smith, is this a class for dummies?” I told them, “Absolutely not. If you follow my directions you will turn into geniuses.”

It turned out that most of my students did not drop out, but improved their reading achievement, and successfully went on to college.

Now, if the Lord enabled me to successfully help at-risk students, where are the rest of the Christian teachers in our public schools? At present they are stifled and cannot really teach what they know ought to be taught by those above them that may know less than they do.

That happened to me too, but I refused to be stifled. I even dared the administrators at Cass Technical High School, the first high school where I taught English, to a public debate, and if they did not wish to debate me directly, I challenged them to secure the services of the head of the ACLU. I figured I knew the law better than either they or he did.

I could say that because I had taken a course in school law at Wayne State University where I was working on my Master’s degree. The professor was so impressed with my work he took me to meet the head of the law school.

My “remedial reading” students were so excited about what they were learning in my class that they talked about it to their other teachers. One day the social studies teacher asked me, saying, “Mr. Smith, I know you are a well-educated man. But the students tell me that you do not believe in evolution. Is that true?” I said it certainly was. Then the teacher asked, “Would you be willing to debate the science teachers about this?” I said, “Any time. You don’t need to give me any time to prepare. I’m ready.”

The debate took place.

My science teacher friend, Darryl Hackett, an experienced attorney who taught school for fun and the joy of teaching, not because he needed the income, said in front of the science department teachers at Southeastern High School who had challenged me to a debate, “Jerry, you should have been an attorney.” He was an experienced debate judge and said I had won the debate.

A good while later in my teaching career I was given a handwritten list of 21 students by Coach Stuckey at Denby High School, the last school where I taught, students who had earned full athletic scholarships to college. As a result of having these students use my reading program and my volunteer tutoring of them after school to help them pass the ACT test, they became qualified for their scholarships.

I have never seen the name of any of my former students in the news because they were involved in crime.

I know my solutions work.

If President Trump is looking for answers let him know I have them!

 

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That pesky “Exact Word Fallacy” again

The Nugget:

John 1:29  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. 

My Comment:

John 1:29 is a key verse important to our understanding of just who Jesus is.

What I posted 39 weeks ago:

The Muslim Question:  “If He (Jesus) is God, why did he cry unto God? Vividly, Jesus never said He is God.”

My Response:

I’ve answered this question before on this site, but I am happy to share my answer again with you.

Jesus on the Cross cried unto God. Jesus during His ministry cried unto God (see Hebrews 5:7). While here on earth Jesus was a man.

Careful study of all the evidence in the Bible will lead to the conclusion that the Lord Jesus Christ possessed two natures at the same time: He possessed a human nature, and He possessed a divine nature. In theology this is called the hypostatic union.

As to the claim you make that “Jesus never said He is God,” that does not at all prove that He was not God while on earth as a man.

If Jesus is not God, then why did His own disciples write in the New Testament in such a manner to clearly show that they believed that Jesus was God?

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

The grammar of the Greek text of the New Testament at John 10:30 clearly declares the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.

“I” (a singular pronoun) and the Father (a singular noun) connected by a plural verb in Greek, “are” (Greek, esmen), followed by a SINGULAR predicate adjective “one” (Greek, hen).

Jesus and the Father are distinct in Person, but One in essence and being and purpose. They are consubstantial, the very same substance or essential nature.

This declares and makes Jesus God. This means there is more than one person in the Godhead. We speak of the Father as the first person of the Godhead. We speak of His son Jesus Christ as the second person of the Godhead. We speak of the Holy Spirit as the third person of the Godhead.

The New Development on this Older Thread:

Today a Muslim posted a response to what I wrote 39 weeks ago, saying:

“Let’s agree for the sake of argument that Jesus was a man on earth. Now bring an evidence verse from Jesus’ mouth that he says he is God in heaven. A VERSE please. I don’t need your explanations please, only a verse from the Bible.”

My Latest Response:

Ali J. Tari, I do not agree to furnish only a verse from the Bible. The reason that I do not agree is that many readers are not able to correctly understand a verse given by itself. Readers often do not understand the Bible or any other work of written literature for they do not know the rules of interpretation that apply.

 
Your request to “bring an evidence verse from Jesus mouth that he says he is God in heaven” is a good example of the “exact word” fallacy. Such a question is framed on purpose to be impossible to answer. Therefore, such a question is not a valid question.
 
But in answer to your challenge I furnish the following valid evidence:
 
We know Jesus is in heaven now.
 
We know that Jesus Christ was called “the lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).
 
In the book of Revelation, we see Jesus depicted as the Lamb. The Lamb is ascribed all the terms of honor and worship that God the Father is given. Since Jesus is given the same honors as God the Father is given, this proves that Jesus Christ is true deity, and that the New Testament writers by divine inspiration indicate this repeatedly. See Revelation 5:12 compared to Revelation 7:12.
 
Rev 5:12  Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
 
Rev 7:12  Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. 
 
This seven-fold ascription in Revelation 5:12 to the Lamb is given in Revelation 7:12 to God.
 
This is proof enough for anyone whose heart is truly open to the truth.

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Daily Bible Nugget #476, Exodus 23:1

The Nugget:

Exodus 23:1  Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.

My Comment:

I was motivated to write about Exodus 23:1 today by something I saw reported that President Trump recently wrote:

“Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation,” Trump wrote. “Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused – life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?” AP report

President Trump is exactly right.

There have been repeated waves of slander lodged against President Trump himself.

There have been waves of slander lodged against Justice Roy Moore, of Alabama. The slander actually cost him the election to the U.S. Senate. He would have been a superb Senator because he knows the law, he understands the Constitution, and he firmly stands up for what is right.

It was reported that the opposing political party actually paid for robocalls soliciting anyone who would lodge allegations of impropriety against Moore to come forward with a promised payment of $7,000 for any who would do so.

The Bible has much to say against such tactics.

No Christian who believes the Bible should ever be in support of such wicked slander against anyone, let alone another Christian.

What the Bible has to say about this matter needs to be thoroughly taught to every person, and especially every Christian.

I have been disturbed at the extent to which some Christians have been deceived by the major media reporting, reporting which is almost always propaganda for the “left.” The “political left” in our time is not democratic but socialist, even communist. Those who are taken in by the falsehoods of the left are in a sorry state, having swallowed the poisoned wells of misinformation provided by the “left.”

Jesus warned us not to be deceived.

It is about time we took His warning seriously.

I invite you to dig deeper into the Bible on this subject by studying the following cross references I have given for Exodus 23:1 in my newest Bible study tool, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury. I share them below for your study.

 

 

shalt not. Exo 23:7, +*Exo 20:16, *+Lev 19:16, 2Sa 16:3; 2Sa 19:27, *Psa 15:3; *Psa 101:5; Psa 120:3, *Pro 10:18; Pro 17:4; Pro 25:23, Jer 20:10, Mat 28:14, 15, Rom 3:8.

raise. or, receive. Psa 15:3 mg. +*1Ti 5:19 note.

an unrighteous witness. Deut 5:20; *Deut 19:16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, *1Ki 21:10, 11, 12, 13, Psa 27:12; *Psa 35:11, +Pro 6:19; Pro 12:17; Pro 19:5; Pro 19:9; Pro 19:28; *Pro 24:28; Pro 25:18, Mat 19:18; *Mat 26:59, 60, 61, Luk 3:14; Luk 19:8, *Act 6:11, 12, 13, **Eph 4:25, 2 Tim 3:3, 1Pe 3:16, Rev 12:10.

 

 

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Did Paul tell lies to spread the Gospel?

The Nugget:

Rom 3:7  For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 

My Comment:

This is the proof-text that some Muslims (and perhaps some of the Hebrew Roots movement) use to prove from the Bible that Paul was a liar and otherwise a heretic.

Christians need to know their Bible better so that they can refute such claims. So, listen up!

The Muslim claim:

“What about Paul who supplied more books in the Bible than Jesus and the Bible itself said Paul lied? Can’t you see the basis of your faith is all about lies and deception that [has] transformed to madness?”

My Question:

Where does the Bible itself say that Paul lied? Please give the exact book, chapter, and verse reference so I can verify your claim. Thank you.

The Muslim Response:

“Romans 3:7 for sure.”

My Answer:

Thank you for your help.

Rom 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner? 
Rom 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

One of the important rules of interpretation is that we must consider the context of the verse we are seeking to correctly understand.

By context, in this instance, I refer to what comes before the verse, and most especially in this case, what comes after this verse.

Careful attention to Romans 3:8 shows that Paul is not affirming the statement of Romans 3:7, but is reporting the false reasoning and false slander that has been made against Paul and the Christians.

Therefore, Paul is not here telling a lie. Rather, he is reporting and commenting upon the lie, the false charges, spoken against him and his fellow Christians.

See if you can find a clearer example than Romans 3:7.

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Daily Bible Nugget #475, Luke 24:39

The Nugget:

Luke 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 

My Comment:

Some religious groups, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses, and some world religions, including Islam, are very mistaken about what the Bible teaches about our Lord Jesus Christ and what the Bible teaches about the Holy Spirit.

Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. They teach that Jesus was raised as a spirit being.

Guess what! If you believe that, you are in for a big surprise when you pass from life into death. It is an absolute requirement for salvation that you must believe that Jesus rose bodily from the dead. See Romans 10:9, 10.

Jehovah’s Witnesses do not believe the Holy Spirit is a Person. Here again, they are utterly mistaken in their belief. Only a person can be grieved, yet the Bible tells us not to grieve the Holy Spirit.  See Ephesians 4:30.

The Muslims correctly believe the Holy Spirit is a person. They correctly understand that the Holy Spirit is the Comforter that Jesus promised to send.

But then the Muslims spoil it all when they teach that Mohammed is the Comforter that Jesus promised to send.

The Bible is clear that the Holy Spirit was sent by Jesus Christ and that the disciples received the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost as recorded in Acts 2:1, 2, 3, 4.

Therefore, the Holy Spirit is not Mohammed!

The Muslim Questions:

A Muslim asked, “Please, what is the difference between holy spirit, holy ghost, angel, and spirit?”

I answered:

“Holy Ghost” and “Holy Spirit” refer to the same Person. These are just different English ways of saying what in the original Greek text is stated using the single word pneuma. The English translators did that for literary reasons to make the English sound better in the KJV. That is an example of how as a literary translation the King James Version ranks the best for English versions.

Angels are spirits but not all spirits are angels.

Another presumably Muslim poster asked, “Jerome Smith, you are absolutely right. But please help us with the other examples of spirits aside [from] the angels as you explained above.”

My Answer (Don’t miss this most interesting Bible study):

There are several verses in the Bible that relate to the subject of spirit or spirits in the Bible.

Upon His bodily resurrection, Jesus Christ said he was not a spirit, because he demonstrably had flesh and bones, and spirits do not:

Luk 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

This was in response to what we read in Luke 24:36, 37,

Luk 24:36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
Luk 24:37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

In Luke 24:37 “spirit” is put for a spirit being or an angel, as in Luke 24:39. In Acts 23:8 “spirit” is distinguished from an angel. In Luke 24:37 the apostles thought what they saw was a disembodied spirit, not the actual person of Christ himself, a misconception Christ immediately and emphatically corrects.

Act 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, neither angel, nor spirit: but the Pharisees confess both.

A “spirit” was the common term for one passed into the unseen state. The Pharisees confessed their belief in “spirits,” carefully distinguished from “angels,” and in opposition to the infidelity and unbelief of the Sadducees. “Spirit” used in this sense is taken as ordinarily applying to the spirits of men apart from the body.

The above verses employ the Greek word “pneuma” for “spirit.”

Another Greek word, “phantasma,” is used in Matthew 14:26 and Mark 6:49 and this Greek word is also translated “spirit” but means “an apparition” or “phantom” or what we might think of as a “ghost.”

Mat 14:26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

Mar 6:49 But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:

The word “spirit” is also used of demons or evil spirits as at Matthew 8:16.

In my book, The New Treasury of Scripture Knowledge, and also in my book, The Ultimate Cross Reference Treasury, I have placed a note at Matthew 8:16 giving a complete breakdown or analysis of all the uses of the word “pneuma” or “spirit” and its Hebrew equivalent, “ruach,” in the Bible.

 

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Just how many books belong in the Bible?

The Nugget:

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 

Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

My Comment:

How many books belong in the Bible?

Answer:  66

Any objections?

I have a separate volume of the Apocrypha in the King James Version. It contains 14 extra books. If my math is right, 66 + 14 = 80.

Do those 14 extra books belong in the Bible? No.

Says who?

Me.

How do I know for sure I am right?

I have studied this subject at length and in depth since about 1954. I have the print library to prove it. I could easily write a scholarly book on the subject.

Where did the extra books come from?

The extra books were introduced by the translators of the Greek Septuagint. These extra books were never accepted into the canon in Israel, and are not found in the Hebrew Bible. Even St. Jerome [not me] agreed when he produced his Latin version of the Bible that these books were not at the same level as the regular books normally found in our Protestant Bibles.

My Muslim friends on Facebook seem to love to argue endlessly about this subject.

One of these friends just argued today that “Your opinion about other bibles is YOUR opinion, those who follow those bibles have their own opinion different then yours. So again, who told you it was 66 books?”

My Response:

Your argument is silly, Sherif Abdel Bary. Who gives you any authority to dispute the number of books in the Bible?
 
The genuinely divinely inspired books of the Bible, numbering 66 in the normal printed English Bibles, are known to be divinely inspired because:
 
(1) They contain specific and detailed prophecy and the record of fulfilled prophecy unlike any other books in the world.
 
(2) They are accurate and without provable historical errors.
 
(3) They meet the tests of historicity.
 
(4) They contain the words of God that when believed and obeyed lead to eternal life and a morally transformed character, what is spoken of in Scripture as becoming a new creature or new creation in Christ.
 
(5) They are internally consistent to a meticulous degree such that they can be studied by cross reference Bible study whereby these genuine books are mutually self-explanatory to a degree unimagined by those who have not experienced this kind of Bible study.

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Salvation in Hinduism

Salvation According to Hinduism

by Vijay Chandra

Hinduism is one of the living religions that originated in Southern Asia along with other Hindu sects such as Jainism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. Hinduism, one of the oldest religions in the world today, dates from 3500 B.C. It is the largest religion in India which has a population of 1.5 billion, of which about 90 percent are Hindus. Hinduism is a very powerful religion and has become very fanatical in certain parts of India, calling India for Hindus.

Hinduism is unique among the religions of the world, for it has a system of castes: Brahman [the priestly class]; Kshatriya [the rulers and warriors]; Vaisay [the common agriculturists and artisans]; and the Sudra [the low caste].

Over the centuries the salvation options in Hinduism have varied widely:

Hinduism is a religion without a founder, without a central authority, and without a fixed creed. It is filled with contradictions. Some adherents worship a personified Power of Nature while others worship idols of their local village. It has no uniform moral standard. It changes, yet continues. Hence it is called ‘Sanathan Dharma’ [Eternal Religion].

The concept of salvation in Hinduism also changes and varies in different periods of time. In this article, I will try to survey the teaching of salvation theme from three ways.

The early period of Hinduism:

SALVATION IN THE EARLY PERIODS OF HINDUISM [3500 B.C – 250 A.D].

The ways salvation or the pathway of salvation in Hinduism is unique in each of the early periods of Hinduism which have been classified into:

  1. The Pre-Vedic Period, 3500 B.C.;
  2. The Vedic Period, 2000-1000 B.C.;
  3. The Brahmanic Period 600-250 B.C.;
  4. Devotional Period [250 B.C -250 AD].

The religion of the Pre-Vedic period was polytheistic. There was worship of things such as:

  • Trees, animals, goddesses, and Shiva. The way of salvation was not very clear. Actual Hinduism began with Vedic Period. The Hindu Scriptures of these periods are called Vedas of which there are four classifications. The important Veda is the Rig-Veda. The religion in the Vedic- Period was mostly nature worship. Hindus prayed to the personalized powers of nature, such as sun, moon, sky, wind, rain, dawn, earth, air and fire.
  • But the idea of sin is present in Vedic religion. Prayers were offered for the forgiveness of sin. To obtain salvation according to the Vedic teaching one had to offer prayers, offerings, and repeat magic formulas to avert the wrath of the offended gods. The chief method of salvation in the Rig Vedic was prayer.

During the Brahamanic Period, the priests became more important than the gods. The chief literature of this period is Brahmanas. The priest introduced sacrifices. Salvation was mostly obtained mainly through sacrifices performed by the Brahman Priests. Among the sacrifices, the chief and elaborate sacrifice was Asva-Medha [horse sacrifice]. The sacrifice required a whole year for its completion. It involved the slaying of 609 animals in a certain prescribed succession.

 

In the Upanishadic period, the writers of Upanishads left the deities of the Vedas and the sacrificial rituals of the Brahmanas in order to discover the inner force, the origin of phenomena of nature and self. The four-fold caste system was believed to have been created by Bahama [God]. Maya became the doctrine of the ‘not real’. The Upanishads emphasized the knowledge of the supreme way of salvation. But knowledge of what? The knowledge of Ultimate Reality. For them, Brahma is Ultimate Reality. Brahma is not a person but a Cosmic Power, that is  “Sarvam Brahma” [everything is Brahama]. Those who understand this truth will experience salvation.

 

Regarding Salvation or Liberation, a totally new dimension took shape during this period. The Upanishads discarded the Vedic gods as necessary for man’s salvation. They also discarded the efficacy of the sacrifice for one’s salvation.

 

During this period Hinduism became legalistic. The Code of Manu taught the sacredness and saving efficacy of the Vedas, the performance of Hindu sacrifices, the sanctioning of war, Upanishadic knowledge of Braham-Atman, and the final release from transmigration. Temples and temples priests became important. Idols are first mentioned in these documents.

 

The four-fold caste system was greatly elaborated in this period. The Brahman by birth was considered the incarnation of deity and the Sudra was placed in low status. Salvation, according to this period, was obtained by showing obedience to the law of Manu; particularly to the law of caste.

 

During the period of Devotional Hinduism, the Bhagavad Gita became the most important. The Bhagavad Gita is highly esteemed scripture of Hinduism. The Gia or ‘The Song of the Adorable” is written in a form of dialogues between Krishna the Charioteer of Arjuna and the leader of the Pandavas. The Bhagavad Gita reaffirms the caste system. The main message of the Bhagavad Gita is ‘Do your caste duty and trust your God for the rest of your salvation’ [Hinduism practices discrimination amongst their own people].

 

The nature of salvation in Bhagavad Gita is very remarkable. The Bhagavad Gita offers universal salvation to all sinners even to women of low-caste Sudra. Salvation as per the Bhagavad Gita is obtained chiefly through devotion to a personal deity.

 

SALVATION ACCORDING TO POPULAR HINDUISM [250 A.D—1700 A.D].

 

During the period of popular Hinduism, the concept of salvation derived from the teaching of literature, namely, the Epics, Puranas, Philosophical Schools and the Religious Sects of Hinduism. The content of The Epics and Puranas has two great stories ‘The Mahabharata’ and ‘The Ramayana’. During this period a great change took place about the way of salvation [one must remember the concept of salvation constantly changes in Hinduism with new formula].

 

Till this period the teaching of the salvation through the way of knowledge was relevant to the intellectuals, Brahamas, and the sages. In this period a new concept was developed to make the way of salvation understandable to common people. The new way of salvation in this period was through the way of devotion to any god, idols, river or mountain. To obtain the salvation then people worshipped idols, visited sacred places and observed several ceremonies. The idols were in the form of all kinds of human and animal representations and even male and female organs [like man’s private parts, male organs which are worshipped by females].

 

Various philosophical schools originated at this time as the result of attacks made by the Jaime and Buddhists against the traditions and doctrines of the Vedas and Upanishads. There are six such schools. All these schools have some common factors to contribute to the way of salvation. The Nyaya school tells the meaning of the knowledge which is the way of salvation. The Vaisheshika school mainly deals with the atomic constitution of things.

The Samkhya schools explain systematically the origin of the world. The Yoga school provides means of attaining ultimate perfection by controlling physical and psychical elements of human nature. This system is very popular in India and wherever the Hindus live.

 

The Mimamsa school teaches that salvation will be obtained through Dharma of ritualistic observance prescribed in the Vedas. The Deanna school tells of the philosophy of the Upanishads.

 

Saivism is a very important sect in which Siva is worshipped. Remission of sins through repentance is not mandatory; a mere performance of religious ceremonies, such as bathing in sacred rivers and uttering of a few mantras or prayers, all ineffective in acquiring salvation. According to this sect, the Power of Siva is defined in various names such as Kali [the goodness of destruction desiring blood sacrifice], Durga and Parvathi the wife of Siva. The way of salvation according to this sect is by the way of Sadhanas, that is through different efforts to become good. The god of Vaishnavism is Visna is the best means of emancipation. Devotees of another sect, Ramaism, seek salvation through loving devotion of Rama [a mere human being] who is worshipped today by millions of Hindus everywhere, an incarnation of Vishnu.

 

SALVATION ACCORDING TO MODERN HINDUISM [1700 A.D. TO PRESENT]:

Hindu reformers were influenced by Christianity, though their reformation was based on their original religious materials. Several leaders are significant.

  1. Ram Mohan Roy [1777-1833] was born in a Bengal family. He was well versed in Bengali, Sanskrit, Persian, Arabic, English and the Hebrew language. He did not accept idol worship. He wrote a book on Jesus, ‘The principles of Jesus: The Guide to Happiness’. He accepted some truths from all other religions [syncretism]. In order to get salvation one has to worship only in a spiritual way instead of resorting to Hindu asceticism, temples and fixed forms of worship.
  2. Keshab-Chandra- Chandra Sen [1838-1884] became the greatest reformer of Hinduism. He started his own Samji [Society] called the Church of New Dispensation. He tried to organize the conflicting creeds of all religions. The church harmonized reason, faith, Yoga, and bhakti [holiness and social duties] in their highest forms to attain spiritual growth.
  3. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa [1834-1886] was born in a pious Brahman family. He had no education but became a devotee of Kali. His movement became the most influential of modern movements of Hinduism. His main teaching about religion was that all religions are equally good. His main method of meditation was Samadhi [concentration on God]. According to his teaching, salvation can be obtained through any religion.
  4. Another important figure in Hindu religion was Swamy Vivekananda [1862-1902]. He was born in a middle call [Kshatriya] warrior family. He became the disciple of Ramakrishna. His main teaching was that no conversion should be attempted because nobody is a sinner [he denied original sin]. To call a man a sinner is a sin. He came to the USA and preached in Chicago. He based his gospel on the doctrine of the identity of the individual soul with Brahma, and so espoused the divinity of man [like Bennie Hinn who says there is a spark of divinity in man so that you are little gods]. Today some preachers are propagating this kind of teaching. And much of ‘New Age’ thinking is drawn from Indian philosophy.

 

SALVATION IS THE PLAN OF GOD: Genesis 3:15

 

Christianity is a remarkable contrast to all the salvation options in Hinduism. The author of salvation is the Triune God. The reality of sin and the consequences of sin in Christianity are not ignored but in Hinduism, it is ignored. Hindus need help and there is no perfect Hindu and their religion has a multiplicity of gods, etc. Man, in spite of his wisdom, intelligence and enlightenment cannot produce his own salvation—a great contrast to Hinduism. But God has planned for the salvation of humankind in spite of its unworthiness.

 

Man has sinned according to the word of God (Rom 1:18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30). Man cannot save himself because all his good works are like filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6). Man is condemned and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23). But God gave His Jesus Christ (John 3:16) to save his people from sin (Matthew 1:21), as many as received Him, to them He gave power to become the sons of God (John 1:11, 12). Hindu religion has occultism, magic and communicates with the devil.

 

Acts 4:12 “And in none other than Jesus Christ is there salvation: for neither is there any other name under heaven, that is given among men, wherein we must be saved”. Through the sufferings, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ salvation is provided. But in Hinduism, there is no mention of such honest sacrifice by any god incarnate person who is righteous and pure and who came to the world as an historical person to save sinners. The gods and goddesses, the gurus, Hindu prophets are false, they have misled and continue to mislead millions of Hindus to a lost eternity. The gods of Hinduism are the figment of the mind of a demon-possessed man. They have created gods in their minds and loaded it upon Hindu people.

 

Faith in Jesus Christ is essential for salvation (Acts 16:31). When a sinner accepts Jesus Christ as his or her Savior then Jesus comes into the heart to dwell (Eph 3:17). Prior to that man is dead in trespasses (Eph 2:1, 2). Those who are saved by the grace of Christ are protected by the Holy Spirit. In Hinduism, there is no Holy Spirit but only evil spirit. There is no caste system in Christianity (John 3:16). Believers live as brothers and sisters in the church. Instead of the way of Knowledge [Janna- Marga], the way of Devotion [Bhakti-Marga] and the way of Actions [Karma- Marga], salvation is obtained only through faith in Jesus who is the way, the truth and the life (John 14:6).

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The Reliability of Scripture

The Nugget:

Isa 40:8  The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

My Comment:

The evidence is clear:  the Bible is reliable. Its contents are settled. Our generally available English translations are quite accurate, though my scholar friend Dr. Malcolm Lavender has provided for us an even more accurate translation of the New Testament which is rigorously true to the grammar of the Greek text. There is no question about how many books belong in the Bible.

Nevertheless, claims are made by false religions and  false cults which seek to re-write the provisions of the Abrahamic Covenant to include themselves and exclude the Jewish people (as is done by some Muslim apologists), or which seek to add additional books to the Bible (as is done by Roman Catholic authorities, Anglicans, and no doubt others) called the Old Testament Apocrypha.

The False Claims:

Nayem Khan posted this comment on the “Christianity and Islam Friendly Debate” site on February 1, 2018:

“On My Previous Post I Posted About The Hate Jews had Toward that they even Changed the Scripture.”

My Answer:

The Hebrew text of the Old Testament and the Greek text of the New Testament have not been changed to any significant degree. This can be seen by comparing the very oldest manuscripts with newer manuscripts. What variations there are are very minor. Such changes are recorded in more scholarly resources both in print and in digital formats.

Modern study Bibles will answer the questions you raise regarding the account of Ishmael and Hagar in their accompanying footnotes.

The issues raised above are the result of misreading and misunderstanding the text of the Bible.

The Scriptures have not been changed. Anyone who believes that the Bible has been changed needs to provide academically credible documentation from scholarly sources which document facts.

A Muslim Reply:

ابو فاطمة firstly, the christiandom can’t agree which one is the real bible. i have christian friends who said this “one” is the real bible don’t read that “one”. secondly, the number of books comprising the bible is debatable, some say it’s 66 some say this number, some say this. thirdly laws considered divine in the torah were changed by paul in the new testament. fourthly, jesus did not speak greek and we can’t deny that a lot is lost in translations. fifthly, the practices (ways of worship) of christians during the time of jesus are totally different from what we see today. now if they can change something like this, how easy would it be to change the story of hajar and ismael.

My Answer:

All of your points are either mistaken or misguided. Just because some churches and denominations are mistaken about what books belong in the Bible does not mean we do not know what books belong in the Bible. There is no disagreement about the fact that the New Testament contains 27 books, the books we now have. As for the Old Testament, the 39 books of the Hebrew canon recognized in Israel are the correct books. The additional books included by the Septuagint translators are of historical value and also religious value but they are not divinely inspired Scripture.

The laws of the Old Testament were not changed by Paul. Paul was authorized by Jesus Christ Himself in person (Acts 9:15), for it is Jesus Christ who commissioned Paul to be a missionary to the Gentiles. Paul received further direct revelation from Jesus Christ regarding the content of the Gospel message Paul was commissioned to teach and preach. Furthermore, Paul was fully recognized and acknowledged by the original apostles of Jesus Christ and was given the right hand of fellowship by them. Paul’s false accusers are the ones guilty of claiming that Paul changed the law of Moses. All these things are most clear to anyone who has carefully read the record preserved in the New Testament. Jesus Christ came to fulfill the law not destroy the law. What Jesus said in Mark 7:19 shows that it was Jesus, not Paul, who set the precedent regarding which parts of the Law of Moses were now fulfilled and so set aside. The laws of Moses still apply to the Jews but do not apply to Christians, and did not apply to the Gentile converts under the ministry of Paul as was authoritatively settled by the verdict of the council reported in Acts 15, as against the Judaizers who mistakenly attempted to require obedience to the Law of Moses as a requirement for salvation.

It is most certain that Jesus Christ did speak Greek on occasion, for the figures of speech present in the Greek text of the New Testament could not have arisen in the process of translation from Aramaic, as thoroughly discussed by the great Greek scholar and grammatical authority Nigel Turner, in his work titled “Grammatical Insights,” page 181, and volume 4 of his book, “Grammar of New Testament Greek,” page 38.

The variety of the forms of worship among different groups of Christians are no argument against the truth, the historicity, the validity, and the accuracy of the New Testament. Religious groups are not divinely inspired. Denominations are not divinely inspired. The Bible is divinely inspired. We test the truth claims of individuals, groups, churches, denominations by comparing them to what the Bible itself teaches.

It is the Moslems, thousands of years after the fact, that are attempting to change the story of Hagar and Ishmael as it is given in the Hebrew Bible. The Bible is very clear that in answer to Abraham’s intercessory prayer, God established a separate Covenant with or for Ishmael, and that this Covenant is not to be confused with or joined to the original Covenant God made with Abraham and Sarah. Isaac is the son of promise and the heir of the Abrahamic Covenant as is evident by all that the rest of the Bible has to say on the subject. No one has authority to come along at a later day to change the oath-sworn Covenant given by God Himself to Abraham.

 

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