{"id":2514,"date":"2017-12-04T12:16:10","date_gmt":"2017-12-04T17:16:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514"},"modified":"2017-12-04T12:16:10","modified_gmt":"2017-12-04T17:16:10","slug":"the-witness-of-john-to-christ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514","title":{"rendered":"The Witness of John to Christ"},"content":{"rendered":"<fb:like href='https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514' send='true' layout='button_count' show_faces='true' width='450' height='65' action='like' colorscheme='light' font='lucida grande'><\/fb:like><p><strong>The Nugget:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\"><span style=\"color: #208080; font-family: Georgia; font-size: x-large;\">Joh 5:34<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: x-large;\">\u3000 <\/span><span style=\"color: #bf3030; font-family: Georgia; font-size: x-large;\">But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Georgia; font-size: x-large;\">\u3000<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\"><strong>My Comment:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A Muslim poster asked the question, &#8220;Why do Christians worship Jesus?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">He then posted a list of nine reasons from the New Testament which he believes demonstrate that Jesus is not God and that Jesus should not be worshipped:<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(1) Jesus explicitly announced who God is:\u00a0 John 17:3;\u00a0 Mark 12:29.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(2) God explicitly said that he was God in the Old Testament:\u00a0 Isaiah 45:22;\u00a0 Isaiah 46:9;\u00a0 Psalm 46:10.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(3) God said he is not a man:\u00a0 Numbers 23:19.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(4) Jesus claimed to be a man:\u00a0 John 8:40;\u00a0 Acts 2:22.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(5) Jesus admits that he is NOT a divine by saying that there is ANOTHER that bears witness of him:\u00a0 John 5:32<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(6) God knows everything but Jesus doesn&#8217;t know:\u00a0 Mark 13:32;\u00a0 Mark 11:13<\/p>\n<p>(7) There is no unequivocal statement or unambiguous statement that Jesus himself said &#8220;I&#8217;m God&#8221; or where he said worship me. In fact, Jesus said in John 14:28 my father is greater than I, and in John 10:29 he said &#8220;My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my father&#8217;s hand.&#8221;\u00a0 Matthew 12:28;\u00a0 Luke 11:20;\u00a0 John 5:30.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(8) It is clearly mentioned that Jesus was a messenger:\u00a0 John 14:24;\u00a0 John 17:3.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">(9) Jesus clearly said that salvation is not to believe that he came to be crucified and not to believe that Jesus is God or son of God:\u00a0 Matthew 19:16, 17, 18.<\/p>\n<p><strong>My Response:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">I did not answer all nine points. That would make my comment or post too long. I chose to focus upon Point 5. I have answered Point 7 just recently here; I have also answered Point 3 on this site already.<\/p>\n<p><strong>My Answer:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">Your claim as I have copied below goes far beyond the supporting evidence you cite, so your claim is NOT sustained:<\/p>\n<p>Jesus admits that he is NOT a divine by saying that there is ANOTHER that beear witness of him.<br \/>\n[Jn.5.32][There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.]<\/p>\n<p>John 5:32 says nothing about the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. The person Jesus is speaking of, the &#8220;another that beareth witness of me,&#8221; is identified in the immediately following context as John the Baptist, who all knew bore witness to Jesus Christ:<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">Joh 5:32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.<span style=\"color: #1d2129; font-family: Helvetica;\">\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\nJoh 5:33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth.<\/p>\n<p>Joh 5:35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.<span style=\"color: #1d2129; font-family: Helvetica;\">\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\nJoh 5:36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.<span style=\"color: #1d2129; font-family: Helvetica;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>The witness which John bore to Jesus Christ is recorded in the Gospel of John as follows:<\/p>\n<p>John 1:6-8<br \/>\n6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.<br \/>\n7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.<br \/>\n8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.<br \/>\nKing James Version<\/p>\n<p>John 1:15-18<br \/>\n15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.<br \/>\n16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.<br \/>\n17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.<br \/>\n18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.<br \/>\nKing James Version<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">John 1:29-34<br \/>\n29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.<br \/>\n30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.<br \/>\n31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.<br \/>\n32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.<br \/>\n33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.<br \/>\n34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.<br \/>\nKing James Version<\/p>\n<p>John 3:26-36<br \/>\n26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.<br \/>\n27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.<br \/>\n28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.<br \/>\n29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom&#8217;s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.<br \/>\n30 He must increase, but I must decrease.<br \/>\n31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.<br \/>\n32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.<br \/>\n33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.<br \/>\n34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.<br \/>\n35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.<br \/>\n36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.<br \/>\nKing James Version<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">The very words of John&#8217;s witness to Jesus Christ prove the divinity or deity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Read them carefully. Make sure you believe on the Son to have everlasting life, for he that believeth not shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth or remains upon him.<\/p>\n<p dir=\"LTR\" align=\"LEFT\">\n<fb:like href='https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514' send='true' layout='button_count' show_faces='true' width='450' height='65' action='like' colorscheme='light' font='lucida grande'><\/fb:like><span class=\"fb_share\"><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514\" layout=\"box_count\"><\/fb:like><\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Nugget: Joh 5:34\u3000 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.\u3000 My Comment: A Muslim poster asked the question, &#8220;Why do Christians worship Jesus?&#8221; He then posted a list of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/?p=2514\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3695,160],"tags":[4250,4249,4251],"class_list":["post-2514","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-apologetics-issues-other-faiths","category-doctrinal-discussions","tag-moslem-bible-question-answered","tag-the-witness-of-john-to-christ","tag-why-do-christians-worship-jesus"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2514","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2514"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2514\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2514"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2514"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realbiblestudy.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2514"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}